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RE: i need some advice please - 6/23/2010 12:48:46 AM   
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Ok, well, you are always at risk for being ditched. We all are. It's the risk you take to be in a relationship. You do need to remember though, that if he does ditch you (him or anyone in the future), then they really aren't right for you after all.

See it is one thing to see them and think "Oh aren't they happy." It is quite another though when you go to sit down and are reminded quite pointedly that she comes before you. The subconscious can be funny that way.

right, i agree, but then how come at the same time it hurt my feelings...it also made me kind of horny because He was showing me my place ? Uggggg it makes it all so confusing:/:/

i know..the whole ditching thing is something i have to get over ...and learn to deal with. You have very valid points. Thank you.

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RE: i need some advice please - 6/23/2010 12:50:48 AM   
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And, i'd just like to know...what He wanted me to feel when pointing that out...how was i suppose to feel? Strive to be better? And what He really desires? i don't understand...

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RE: i need some advice please - 6/23/2010 1:39:47 AM   
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i wanted to be on the other side of Him so He could touch my hair also and so i could be closer to my Master also. It made me feel just horrible.


You were sitting exactly where he wanted you to sit. Rather than allowing that to make you feel horrible, let it fill you that it pleased him to have you sit in that spot rather than some other spot, whether it was next to him or not. Being submissive isn't always easy. It's not always going to be getting what *you* want but doing your best so that all the parties involved are enhanced by the relationship. Your emotions are very valid and you feel what you feel but do try to see things from the larger perspective. If he didn't want you in his life, you wouldn't even have that seat next to his slave at all.

Just something to think about.

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RE: i need some advice please - 6/23/2010 1:48:54 AM   
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i wanted to be on the other side of Him so He could touch my hair also and so i could be closer to my Master also. It made me feel just horrible.


You were sitting exactly where he wanted you to sit. Rather than allowing that to make you feel horrible, let it fill you that it pleased him to have you sit in that spot rather than some other spot, whether it was next to him or not. Being submissive isn't always easy. It's not always going to be getting what *you* want but doing your best so that all the parties involved are enhanced by the relationship. Your emotions are very valid and you feel what you feel but do try to see things from the larger perspective. If he didn't want you in his life, you wouldn't even have that seat next to his slave at all.

Just something to think about.


Reading that helped a lot to

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RE: i need some advice please - 6/23/2010 5:06:51 AM   
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this guy could be 60+ for all we know..the age gap could be 40yrs.. he has a slave, a wife, a submissive. Masters, Doms, whatever the titles, are humans, men.. and men love collecting women.. it boosts their egos, and along the way, women who tend to be more sensitive, get emotionally hurt when something happens, cos we are just like that..its a general fact that only older, wiser women, know about.. the young ones will learn thru time, experience, mistakes..
to the OP, at 19, you should take things slower, stop getting so emotionally involved, protect yr heart.

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RE: i need some advice please - 6/24/2010 7:45:22 AM   
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And this is why i tend to avoid 19 year olds *cheeky grin*  look at all the changes in the story that emerged on page 9...

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RE: i need some advice please - 6/24/2010 8:07:20 AM   
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And, i'd just like to know...what He wanted me to feel when pointing that out...how was i suppose to feel? Strive to be better? And what He really desires? i don't understand...


Hi lucky,

I think this is an extremely important question. I hope you'll ask him. His reply may well tell you what your future as his sub will be.

I do sincerely wish you happiness,

January

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RE: i need some advice please - 6/24/2010 8:29:27 AM   
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And this is why i tend to avoid 19 year olds *cheeky grin*  look at all the changes in the story that emerged on page 9...


changes? lol, ya ok alright. totally changed it all. your reading comprehension is a little off.

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RE: i need some advice please - 6/24/2010 8:30:34 AM   
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And, i'd just like to know...what He wanted me to feel when pointing that out...how was i suppose to feel? Strive to be better? And what He really desires? i don't understand...


Hi lucky,

I think this is an extremely important question. I hope you'll ask him. His reply may well tell you what your future as his sub will be.

I do sincerely wish you happiness,

January


Yeah, what i was thinking.

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RE: i need some advice please - 6/24/2010 8:35:14 AM   
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lucky,

I meant to also say this:

Suppose you talk to your Dom about why he pointed out "slave before sub", and he explains his reasoning. It makes you feel better. But if his later actions (like the way he treats you) don't jive with his original explanation, you need to seriously reconsider the relationship.

January

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RE: i need some advice please - 6/24/2010 8:38:11 AM   
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Why? i don't mind if she is ahead... i mind how it's shown i guess ...because i'm sensitive. And, i am doing my best... ya know?

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RE: i need some advice please - 6/24/2010 8:38:16 AM   
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You know, I read this whole thread, and didn't feel the least bit like being condescending until now.

"Lucky"...someone else mentioned reading comprehension, so now you bandy it about as your stock response to anyone disagreeing with you.  Bravo. -insert sarcasm-

As was pointed out, you referred to someone as your lover, then on page 9 (i think, could have been 8) suddenly say you're not having sex.  Sorry, a lover is someone that you have sex with.  You also said that your relationship was "about more than just sex"...which implies that sex is part of it.  If it weren't, you should have said "our relationship is based on non-sexual factors."

You started out just saying how devastated you were by the comment he made, and now, on page 10, you say that it aroused you.  Given that he may have known it'd do that, that was some information left out/story changed from the original post.

You say he doesn't accept many subs....but then you turn around and say he's had many before you.  You don't have many of something without accepting/acquiring many of them.  Unless he bred them in captivity or something...which...eww...but I guess he's old enough that he actually COULD have started breeding subs when he was young and they'd be adult and ready to play by now. (yes, that's me making a joke)

You say that you're new and he's teaching you the lifestyle...ok...but then you say that you've had a poly relationship with two dominants before.  This one...grey area, not sure whether I buy it or not, but it's your story.

And, a few pages back, you had said you wouldn't be posting here anymore, since you now knew you had to go talk to him about it....and...well...need I point it out?

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RE: i need some advice please - 6/24/2010 8:43:34 AM   
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You know, I read this whole thread, and didn't feel the least bit like being condescending until now.

"Lucky"...someone else mentioned reading comprehension, so now you bandy it about as your stock response to anyone disagreeing with you.  Bravo. -insert sarcasm-

As was pointed out, you referred to someone as your lover, then on page 9 (i think, could have been 8) suddenly say you're not having sex.  Sorry, a lover is someone that you have sex with.  You also said that your relationship was "about more than just sex"...which implies that sex is part of it.  If it weren't, you should have said "our relationship is based on non-sexual factors."

You started out just saying how devastated you were by the comment he made, and now, on page 10, you say that it aroused you.  Given that he may have known it'd do that, that was some information left out/story changed from the original post.

You say he doesn't accept many subs....but then you turn around and say he's had many before you.  You don't have many of something without accepting/acquiring many of them.  Unless he bred them in captivity or something...which...eww...but I guess he's old enough that he actually COULD have started breeding subs when he was young and they'd be adult and ready to play by now. (yes, that's me making a joke)

You say that you're new and he's teaching you the lifestyle...ok...but then you say that you've had a poly relationship with two dominants before.  This one...grey area, not sure whether I buy it or not, but it's your story.

And, a few pages back, you had said you wouldn't be posting here anymore, since you now knew you had to go talk to him about it....and...well...need I point it out?


Not reading that, sorry. Not here to deal with drama, no one else is confused not going to deal with it , sorry.

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RE: i need some advice please - 6/24/2010 8:45:49 AM   
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So, wait...you are making assumptions yet again (yes i did skim it to see what you were going on about it)....and so now you want me explaining my whole like life to prove your assumptions wrong (because they are)? Sounds wrong of you, kind of mean also. Not going to, but stop just jumping on my back when you don't know anything.

Please :/.

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RE: i need some advice please - 6/24/2010 8:49:12 AM   
January


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Why?


Why what?

All I was trying to write was this: if he tells you one thing and later does another, you don't have a trustworthy partner. Only you can decide if that matters. But you should certainly think about it mattering if you are hurting.

I am not saying you dislike his slave. I am not dissing Poly. I'm just saying you don't need his permission to buh-bye him.

January

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RE: i need some advice please - 6/24/2010 8:52:34 AM   
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Why?


Why what?

All I was trying to write was this: if he tells you one thing and later does another, you don't have a trustworthy partner. Only you can decide if that matters. But you should certainly think about it mattering if you are hurting.

I am not saying you dislike his slave. I am not dissing Poly. I'm just saying you don't need his permission to buh-bye him.

January


i see what you are saying...but what do you mean by saying something at first and changing what he said? i'm confused by that because we haven't even talked about poly and me and his slaves relationship which is why this is so confusing. He usually talks to me about everything, so i know he had a point...a reason not to :/.

Maybe it could be as simple as me asking " what do you want my relationship between Your slave and me to be?" ..i don't know i'm just thinking of stuff to come up with my next training session isn't until july 6.

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RE: i need some advice please - 6/24/2010 9:00:26 AM   
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W/we don't have sex, it's not in our relationship..it's not part of O/our arrangement ............so yet again it's something you are coming to false conclusions about because you don't know my relationship. Please, just stop :/.



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 i am not that much into sex even because i am so young and He promised not to push that stuff on me...and He hasn't.. if anything i am asking to have more because i crave it.


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 is ... He isn't just wanting me for sex. He is polite in every aspect ....... especially when it comes to sexual stuff since i am so new to it all


Which is it? Yes or no?

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RE: i need some advice please - 6/24/2010 9:01:04 AM   
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Darling Savage, this is just more pure crap from you being spewed out, based on your preferances and judgments.  Some people are Poly, If you're a poly couple the new girl, is not hurting a thing by simply being in the relationship. She's most likely a welcome edition to both the man AND the WIFE. So just because you apparently have something against poly, you  claim she's butting into a exsisting relationship, or harming another ladies relationship, and that's just plain wrong to paint your personal preferences, judgments, and opinions about poly onto someone else.


Unless of course I am missing something and the wife is not the slave being mentioned when he says slave before sub.

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Also, what about that wife of his?  How do you think this makes her feel?  Have you tried putting yourself in her place?  I mean, you obviously don't have THAT much respect for her position cause you're still hanging around. 


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RE: i need some advice please - 6/24/2010 9:05:41 AM   
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W/we don't have sex, it's not in our relationship..it's not part of O/our arrangement ............so yet again it's something you are coming to false conclusions about because you don't know my relationship. Please, just stop :/.



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 i am not that much into sex even because i am so young and He promised not to push that stuff on me...and He hasn't.. if anything i am asking to have more because i crave it.


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 is ... He isn't just wanting me for sex. He is polite in every aspect ....... especially when it comes to sexual stuff since i am so new to it all


Which is it? Yes or no?


We don't have sex, as i've freaking said before. Leave it alone.

If you have something to contribute to the thread please do, other than that i hate repeating myself. On top of that it's plainly rude because it has nothing to do with the question asked.

Please stay on topic, thank you.

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RE: i need some advice please - 6/24/2010 9:20:32 AM   
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Darling Savage, this is just more pure crap from you being spewed out, based on your preferances and judgments.  Some people are Poly, If you're a poly couple the new girl, is not hurting a thing by simply being in the relationship. She's most likely a welcome edition to both the man AND the WIFE. So just because you apparently have something against poly, you  claim she's butting into a exsisting relationship, or harming another ladies relationship, and that's just plain wrong to paint your personal preferences, judgments, and opinions about poly onto someone else.


Unless of course I am missing something and the wife is not the slave being mentioned when he says slave before sub.

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ORIGINAL: DarlingSavage
Also, what about that wife of his?  How do you think this makes her feel?  Have you tried putting yourself in her place?  I mean, you obviously don't have THAT much respect for her position cause you're still hanging around. 




TfB -- the wife -isn't- the slave. The wife is another dominant, who, if I remember the earlier post, has another/others who submit to her. The slave belongs to the husband, and, I believe, lives with the husband and wife. It's a complex D/D-run poly household, in any case, though -- everyone is aware of what's going on, nobody is being lied to or cheated on, and I agree with your comment that there is absolutely NO indication that the OP's involvement is destructive to the marriage or to the existing slave relationship in any way.

Calla

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