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wednesdayschild -> Prostitution (6/23/2010 12:21:01 PM)

Masters -- I'm desperate for your opinions!  Have you ever prostituted your slave?  I don't mean sharing or loaning to someone that you already know ... but actually receiving money from a total stranger in exchange for an hour of your slave's time.  I think if I don't agree to do this, I'm going to lose him.  But I wonder what sort of person makes another person do something like that?  It seems dangerous.  He says he has all the bases covered, so far as safety and legal aspects ... but it just seems *morally* wrong.  I feel like such a prude for thinking that.  But I'm really torn.  I don't know if this is a red flag and I should run like hell, or if I'm just being resistant because I think I'm too good to suck a stranger's cock.  He says I need to see what it feels like to be a real whore, to really understand where my place is. He thinks this will break me down completely and then he can start to build me back up.
Serious responses only, please!  This isn't something that I can handle snide remarks about. 



divi -> RE: Prostitution (6/23/2010 12:24:05 PM)

Your Master sounds like a douche ..



myotherself -> RE: Prostitution (6/23/2010 12:27:56 PM)

How the HELL can he have all the legal and safety bases covered?

Every time you service a john, you're risking your health (not just STIs, although I'm assuming you'd use condoms - but risk of physical assault) and unless your master is a senior judge with the entire local police division in his pocket, you can be arrested, charged and convicted of prostitution. There's nothing he can do to help, without risking owning up to being your pimp.

I'm with divi on this one - kick the douche to the kerb and find yourself someone who can 'break you down to build you up' in a way that's not risking your life and your freedom.



UniqueRaven -> RE: Prostitution (6/23/2010 12:31:40 PM)

Not a Master, but would like to help -

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ORIGINAL: wednesdayschild

Masters -- I'm desperate for your opinions!  Have you ever prostituted your slave?  I don't mean sharing or loaning to someone that you already know ... but actually receiving money from a total stranger in exchange for an hour of your slave's time.  I think if I don't agree to do this, I'm going to lose him.  But I wonder what sort of person makes another person do something like that? It seems dangerous.  He says he has all the bases covered, so far as safety and legal aspects ... but it just seems *morally* wrong.  I feel like such a prude for thinking that.  But I'm really torn.  I don't know if this is a red flag and I should run like hell, or if I'm just being resistant because I think I'm too good to suck a stranger's cock.  He says I need to see what it feels like to be a real whore, to really understand where my place is. He thinks this will break me down completely and then he can start to build me back up.
Serious responses only, please!  This isn't something that I can handle snide remarks about. 



To answer your question - a dangerous one, and one who is less concerned about your safety than his kink.

"Breaking" a slave is generally a term that is often thrown around as an excuse for forcing non-consensual kink on a slave that generally isn't good for her health, safety, or well-being. Most Owners/Masters i know (that know their stuff and safety) don't do this - they take who she is and mold her into something even better.

To quote a potential Master i speak with - "Why would I want to "break" a wonderful, bright, intelligent, outgoing and moral human being? That just seems like a waste of time to me."

Only you can decide if this is something that works for you, and that you can engage in and feel safe. Just remember that "Masters" aren't magicians, therapists, or Gods - they're human beings, with their own kinks and desires, just like slaves.

And i won't even get into legalities of what he wants you to do here - but use some common sense.

Good luck!



mistoferin -> RE: Prostitution (6/23/2010 12:33:37 PM)

May I ask how long you have been in this relationship with this Master? Is your relationship realtime or online? Was the possibility of anything like this discussed when you were negotiating the terms of your relationship?



wednesdayschild -> RE: Prostitution (6/23/2010 12:44:52 PM)

Thank you all for your replies!  I'm very new to all of this -- my relationship with this Master is in real-time, but we have not been together very long.  I think I've gone about this whole thing in the wrong way, and I feel so completely foolish and naive.  I hate having to tell him that I'm done with him ... I'm not very good at sticking up for myself ... but I know what I have to do.



January -> RE: Prostitution (6/23/2010 12:51:52 PM)

Good for you, Wednesday!

Beware the man who requires you to continually prove yourself, and tells you if you don't, you're not a real sub. IMO, an emotional bully is not a master of anything.

January



Mercnbeth -> RE: Prostitution (6/23/2010 12:52:25 PM)

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Serious responses only, please!


Seriously - Bringing this to strangers isn't appropriate.
Seriously - Was it your goal or his when entering the relationship to "see what it feels like to be a real whore"?
Seriously - Was this a 'fantasy' you disclosed which he now is making a reality and you are getting 'cold feet?
Seriously - If this was a discussion and issue disclosed prior to establishing your relationship - whatever was agreed to should be followed.
Seriously - If it was not discussed and addressed it's time to do so with HIM - not us - now.


Just as serious however directed to the more pragmatic: I find it interesting that he, or anyone, would want to "break" something deemed valuable. If you have a Ming vase breaking it and putting it back together decreases its value to the owner as well as the observer. Off the top of my head I can't think of anything which, after being 'broken' improves. Horses when broken better serve 'man' however I would hope a human, even a 'lifestyle slave' gets to live more naturally than a broken horse.

Good Luck!

Hope if you reconcile yourself to doing this you have as much fun and excitement as you and your 'Master' anticipated.



Jeffff -> RE: Prostitution (6/23/2010 1:04:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: divi

Your Master sounds like a douche ..



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PeanutTigerinBox -> RE: Prostitution (6/23/2010 1:15:51 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: January

Good for you, Wednesday!

Beware the man who requires you to continually prove yourself, and tells you if you don't, you're not a real sub. IMO, an emotional bully is not a master of anything.

January


dito.

having worked in the past temporarily in the escort field I can only tell you that every time a guy comes to me with such an approach I make him clear that I would never tolerate being pimped out. When I was in that field I decided whom to meet, it was all my risk but also all my income and thankfully most of the time it was ok. However, doing it for your own reason at your own conditions is one thing....doing it for a wanker who sells you like a donkey, thats a complete different story.

I would not be involved with someone with such a request.



Missokyst -> RE: Prostitution (6/23/2010 1:24:03 PM)

I am curious if you believe your place is to become a whore?  Did you think of possible arrest?  STD's? Coming across a client that wants to hurt you? 
Legally, unless you live in a couple of counties in NV (possibly other states, I don't know) prostitution is illegal.  How does he have this covered?  The STD thing is a bit better, he should have a huge lifetime package of health insurance for you in case you develop something that you may have to live or die with, until the end.



wednesdayschild -> RE: Prostitution (6/23/2010 1:31:03 PM)

It has been resolved.  I might have been over-reacting and misinterpreting his level of interest in doing this.  So now I'm the schmuck with a thread that I can't delete ...



divi -> RE: Prostitution (6/23/2010 1:33:18 PM)

How did you misunderstand? I'm curious. ..



laurell3 -> RE: Prostitution (6/23/2010 2:38:54 PM)

People do things all the time that have risks. Generally you accept those risks and agree to do it anyway. If the guy is saying don't worry there are no risks and if this exceeds your hard limits I'll leave you, he's an idiot. I agree with divi.




SexySea -> Your Master is an Asshole (6/23/2010 2:52:28 PM)

Firstly, it is illegal for someone to come up to you and ask "How much for sex.".  Secondly, the moment you hand your "Master" the money you made he has done something illegal.  It's called "Living off of the avails of prostitution".

Now, let's discuss you.  You sound so deperate and confused and I certainly understand why.  In most  "Master" slave relationships (except for the most extreme which include things like amputation) the "Master" has a rsponsibility to protect his property from true harm, both physical and emotional.  You feel confused and scared that you'll lose your "Master" if you don't do this.  This guy isn't a true "Master".  It may be quite likely that he is actually a pimp and he chose you to become his slave giving you what you desired and now that you're so far into the relationship that you don't want to lose him he's turning you out onto the street to become a prostitute.  I guarentee you that he will get used to the money you bring in very quickly and he will never allow you off of the streets.  I wonder how many other little slave girls that yo don't know about who he found on sites like these who are now working the streets.

What he's asking you to do is illegal and immoral and you "Master" should never force you to do something that you believe is morally wrong.

I understand that you're scared of losing him but how are you going to feel the first time that you get arrested and you're sitting in the police station waiting for your parent's to come and post your bail because, believe me, he's not going to come and get you if that happens because you don't mean anything to him. 

You can do so much better than him.  There are thousands of Doms/Masters on this site alone and when you add all of the other online sites we're talking about MILLIONS of potential new Masters as well as men you might meet at events in your community.

Run as fast as you can from this asshole and don't bother to even let him know you're leaving.  Move if you can, definitley change your phone number and spend sometime learning to value yourself as a person before even thhinking about getting involved with a new man.

Tke care of yourself sweetie...... big hugs

SS



osf -> RE: Your Master is an Asshole (6/23/2010 2:58:19 PM)

How much money are we talking about, my morals are financialy flexable..





Ishtarr -> RE: Prostitution (6/23/2010 3:05:02 PM)


I've prostituted before, for fun, because I wanted to, in a country where it was legal, and have handed over the proceeding to the man who was at the time my Dom because I liked having the feeling he was "pimping" me.

However, it was something I wanted to do, just for the thrill of it, as much as he wanted to do it, and again, legalities, safety and such weren't an issue. (I had a high-end room in the red light district that provided alarm buttons and 24/7 surveillance included in the price of the room, as well as my Dom being just outside the room and staying in touch with me in between clients.)

This only has to be a red flag if it is a red flag for YOU.
It's not an uncommon fantasy for men to entertain, so I wouldn't necessarily write off any man that thinks this is a hot idea as being a creep, yet at the same time, if he tries to push you beyond limits that are right for you, this is obviously not a very good situation for you to be in.

Good luck.





osf -> RE: Prostitution (6/23/2010 3:15:53 PM)

here is where I get hate mail, lots in this life share, some slaves have no choice in who uses them.

So in a lifestyle sense what difference does it make to her what arrangements he has with whoever uses her?

Now the legalities and health concerns are another matter, I'm just addressing the ethecal issue of the relationship.



Jeffff -> RE: Prostitution (6/23/2010 3:18:24 PM)

You can't remove ethics from action in a case like this



osf -> RE: Prostitution (6/23/2010 3:24:00 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Jeffff

You can't remove ethics from action in a case like this




ethics are relational



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