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WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Begging~ (6/26/2010 1:55:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BentUnit

Me too.
I would have preferred to be worked over physically than go through one of his Master Mind Fucks.
And I mean that with all sincerity.
His mind fucks left me feeling so vulnerable and unsure of my allure and desirability.
Being worked over physically would have ended much, much sooner.



Hopefully the next person fortunate enough to win your trust and deovtion, will be more deserving of it, and not such a fucktarded jackass.






BentUnit -> RE: Begging~ (6/26/2010 2:03:10 AM)

Fucktarded Jackass.......

OMFG!!

Priceless W.D!

I'm going to file that one away and trot it out at a later date!




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Begging~ (6/26/2010 2:09:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BentUnit

Fucktarded Jackass.......

OMFG!!

Priceless W.D!

I'm going to file that one away and trot it out at a later date!


You're most welcome to use it.  I probably picked it up from someone here on the boards, though don't know who.  If the original owner of fucktarded jackass wants to claim the slang, please get bent, I mean get WITH bent.

I think of all the really wonderful guys I see here on CM who are looking for a slave who can surrender to such an extent as you did; I can't help but think of the guy who let you go, to be anything but a fucktarded jackass.  Seriously.




BentUnit -> RE: Begging~ (6/26/2010 2:28:14 AM)

Thank you W.D.

I can be the most vicious and ferocious of people at times and a huge ungodly handful.
It'd be a ballsy man who'd take me on.




DesFIP -> RE: Begging~ (6/26/2010 2:38:43 AM)

You also have to believe there's a chance of getting what you're begging for. If you usually are denied, you won't beg. You won't want it, instead you'll shut down. Lots of guys who play with denial want to hear begging and don't understand that they're teaching their partner not to be orgasmic. And you can't beg for an orgasm you know you physically can't have.




Nineveh -> RE: Begging~ (6/26/2010 12:25:08 PM)

re the bit about emotional sadists.  I do think that has a place, especcially where begging is involved. but it is more delicate than physical sadism.  If a girl is being beaten too hard it's easy to tell.  If a girl is being pushed too hard mentally it can be much more difficult and it takes a careful hand to play those sort of games to the level where they get a strong response but aren't causing real harm.  Personally I like low level emotional sadism, some begging, some teasing, that sort of thing, but I stay away from the hardcore humiliation and mindfuck stuff because I would honestly rather have accidentally broken a girl's arm than accidentally broken her mind.




pyroaquatic -> RE: Begging~ (6/26/2010 4:13:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: UniqueRaven

i'm the same way, i find it hard to beg - i think it is my deep need to please, and that ultimately i don't care about my own pleasure that much. i often have found that it's much easier for me to just go without something (and i really don't miss it) than to beg for it.

What *has* worked for me has been two things - one, to tap into the part of me that really, really wants something, and beg from that authentic place, and; two, to understand how much he wants for me to beg for something.

But really, if i can't have either of these things going on, begging just becomes acting for me - it isn't "real."

i will say that my potential Owner (i am currently unowned) would find a way to motivate to beg for something - and then play with that edge for quite a while, for his own fun and amusement. He would be much more likely to do that then to tell me to be an actress and simply put on an act of begging.


Wow. Less typing for me.

I would not have any idea why I would beg. Unless of course you are bound up like a contortionist with a sadistic stick-wielder.

So to beg to get into something is good followed by a beg out of something....good. *notes*




subwaythru -> RE: Begging~ (7/2/2010 1:40:22 PM)

Thank you for all the input on begging.
Here to add my concurrence that relationship of any kind boils down to trust. Trust cannot be achieved in any other way than experience of the human being with whom one is interacting. Begging is one of those aspects of relationship with one's Master that necessarily involves an extraordinary trust that allows genuine vulnerability, the very essence of submission.
That said, this relationship can only evolve naturally. Master gains this trust by being trustworthy, and that's that. The rock bottom knowledge that the unshakeable ethics of a true Master would never allow harm to a hair of His precious one's head is a profound and humbling revelation.
For me, this in turn brings the desire to give unstintingly and with real desire for any demand in my own heart, accept Master's will unquestioningly, and love every minute of it.




MagiksSlave -> RE: Begging~ (7/2/2010 1:56:52 PM)

*Shrugs* I don't beg, it isnt part of every dinamic and maybe it isnt something you want? Do you want to beg him? Is it something you like? Some people really do get off on having to beg for things. Others find it degrading and intolerable (I would be one of the latter here) if you, too, fall into the second group, that may, in lie the problem. I think you need to be more specific on how you think you may be, beeing selfish though. I dont think I get it. Some people just can't bring themselves to beg and if you are one of those people, well you have to think about if that is something you want to work on and if it is, talk to him, see if he can be patient while you try to overcome this.




Elisabella -> RE: Begging~ (7/2/2010 3:36:29 PM)

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That is where some people live. Begging is not something they can do. Without complete safety, knowing that their best very best interests are protected, begging from deep inside is not an option. Heck even *asking* from that place is much too dangerous. People will do without instead of risking.


Spot on, Sunshine.




txurinal -> RE: Begging~ (7/24/2010 9:28:53 AM)

i guess i have never really had to beg for something. i have had to ask permission for things. When owned i always had to aks permission to use the bathroom On occassion i would have to prove i needed to go so i guess in that instance i was begging.

i never had to beg for food or any real "need". to beg for an orgasm would have been unthinkable. The MASTERS wants came first and the fact that i was only rarely allowed release was just the way it was for a slave




porcelaine -> RE: Begging~ (7/24/2010 11:52:44 AM)

One of the reasons begging and other activities prove troublesome are our personal associations, issues, and unwillingness to see the act from the other person's perspective. Begging is no different than prostration in my mind. As a slave I'm his supplicant and if pleading pleases him that is what occurs. Much of this is possible when you're with an individual that provides an atmosphere where slavery thrives and enslavement is welcomed by both persons. I would view my ambivalence as a real impediment to the latter and seek realignment of my mindset from him.

In the past I found it troublesome due to ego articulation that was misapplied. It has no place on the kneel, particularly in that context. The idea of being too good for this or that is a little strange now. Our mutual selection of the other is testament to our ability to recognize and appreciate our partner's worth. However, the relationship is founded upon principles that I've agreed to adhere to. It doesn't have to be complicated. We make it such when we attempt to circumvent the obvious.

~porcelaine




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