joether
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Recently (as in this week), Fox New's website 'reported' on a concept similar to this. While I can't find article in particular, hopefully the neutral explaining I give will help you. Either by recalling this yourselves (since some of you only watch Fox News and no other news source), or through another source.
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The Secratary of Labor, this week, announced, that illegal immigrants can report businesses that use illegal practices to the National Labor Relations Board, without being attacked, for being an illegal immigrant. Since the NRLB, nor the Department of Labor determines law related to national security (that would be the Department of Justice, or Homeland Security's role actually). The idea, is to remove unscruplous business men from preying on illegal immigrants, and give them the same wage a US Citizen would recieve.
The source also quotes several Republicans in office and running for local, county and state, as being strictly opposed to this concept. That taxpayer dollars, should not be used on illegal immigrants.
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Now, I do think these Republicans have not thought this concept through to its end. But then, Republicans in my opinion, rarily think complex concepts out fully. It seems to be the norm these days, that if a Republican can be a racist, with a sliver of cover to hide behind, they will!
Concider the concept. For this concept, YOU, the reader, are a US Citizen, currently unemployed, and needing a job. Bob (not his real name), is a recent illegal immigrant, from Peru, who hopped across the border from Mexico. Dave, is a federal attorney for the NLRB. And Smith, the person whom is a unscruplous business man, trying to maximize net profits.
Smith, the business man, own a good size farm. He needs workers every season, to work those fields, so he can get produce to market, and make a profit. That is the reason for going through all this crap....to make a profit! And Smith wants to make a BIG profit. Now, he doesn't consider himself mean, evil, or even unAmerican. No, he is an American! Smith pays taxes, and donates to the local Republican Party, as they often vote and argue for things, that makes him more money (and less taxes....damn liberal commie, Marxist, rat-hole, hippie, stupid, lame, lazy, idiots!). So, Smith needs to hire, sixty (60) workers, for the season. Rather he figures, needs at least 60 workers a day for any given project to reach its end.
Example 1:
So, Smith decideds he needs to hire sixty (60) workers. If he hires you, he will have to pay $7.25, the Federal Minimeum wage, plus all the different taxes. (For the sake of this example, lets just say its $7). So, 60 x 7, is $420 and hour, plus 1.5 times that, for any overtime. Whether that overtime is over eight hours in a day, or fourty (40) in a week. Crops don't grow when, you, the worker, are working only. They grow and such, when your not. So, hiring you, will eventually count against him, and his net profit!
But Bob, will work for $3.00 an hour. He'll put up with alot of crap, because he needs the money. While he works for Smith; Smith will go to some distance to 'protect' him, from behing picked up by ICE and the police. Afterall, bob is helping him make a bigger bottom line. Smith justs work him to an early grave with 14-16 hour days, 6-7 days a week. Bob can't complain to the police, without reveiling himself a criminal in the process. So it is safe to say, hiring Bob, and 59 of his friends, saves Smith alot of money. Why, he would have to pay nearly three times to hire You, and your 59 co-workers. And that's not even considering all the crap Democrats have given workers over the years!
Bottom Line: Potential Risk is high, Potential Profit is high. Smith is only in trouble if the law catchs up to him, and proves he knew anything about Bob's status, or, how his health has been under employment. Likewise, if the Fed were to crack down on illegal immigrants, Smith would have to start hiring....*gasp*...US Citizens! Some of the money that he is 'saving' from having to pay US Citizens, can go towards hiring some 'foreman' at $4. You might call these guys 'thugs', 'enforcers', or 'criminals'. To Smith, they get the job done!
Example 2:
Use the same information from Example 1, with the following exceptions. Bob, is a God fearing man. Yes, he found a local church, and it became evident to the US Citizens there, that Bob is hardworking and devout Christian. But, he does keep to himself, and barely understands basic English. So it takes a while for people to realize, he's being worked in to an early graveyard by 'the evil farm owner'. They tell him, to go see Dave, of the NLRB. They even offer to give him a ride in to the city, and 'pay' a day of his 'salary'. It doesn't take Dave long to figure out, what Smith is doing. And sets to work. To make the long story short, Smith does get busted, fined, and jailed. Oh, he did try during that time, to get the local Republican Party to come help and defend himself. And they did, without really checking in to the story of lies he feed them. They railed against Dave, the NLRB, and even got their 'face time' on Fox News as an 'expert'. But in the end, they were made fools of, and looked even more like idiots for having believed some of his more wild material. Smith is a business man on a farm, not a writer of thriller books!
Bottom Line: Potential High Risk, No Pay-off (as he is jailed, and lose funds/property).
Example 3:
Anderson, another business man, have been observing, other business men getting nailed for hiring illiegal immigrants, and paying them crappy wages. They forced their workers in to horrible conditions, and used hired thugs, to beat those who questioned in to silence (of the temporary or permanent kind). Anderson decides, it is not worth hiring illegal immigrants, as the risk is not worth the trouble. While his potential profit will not be as high as he wants, he could end up getting some motivated US citizens. While, there is a chance, he could hire an illegal immigrant, they would be afforded the same pay and rights, as any of the other workers.
Bottom Line: Low to None Risk, Moderate Pay-off. The other two examples, the business owner reports to the state and IRS a 'normal' profit/loss based on area businesses and reports in the library. Yes, you can find ALOT of information in a library. In Example 3, Anderson reports the honest accounting of bills.
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So, the point of the NRLB, to be in a position to help illegal immigrants get a fair wage, is not directly for their benefit (as Republicans foolishly think). But to aid US Citizens, who want work, but can't compete with the illegal immigrants. It forces businesses to reconsider their work and business ethic. That is, if they HAVE an ethic that is honest and honorable. But, by doing this, those businesses that are unethical and dishonorable, could flee and go else where. I say "Let 'em go else where, be someone else's problem". This is a wise way of using taxpayer funds that ultimately, protect US citizens. The federal minimual wage, is a totally different topic!
< Message edited by joether -- 6/26/2010 3:24:23 PM >
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But hey, why put up with all that "doing the right thing" BS when you can get you a bunch of illegal immigrants over here to use and abuse for slave wages and no benefits. After all its not like they can report you or call the authorities when you mistreat them. 
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GROSS. I catch that show sometimes and you are right. Americans WILL do the most vile digusting jobs you can think of.......just not for 2 bucks a hour.
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