Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

RE: Why are so many non-Believers so narrow minded?


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> RE: Why are so many non-Believers so narrow minded? Page: <<   < prev  6 7 8 9 [10]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: Why are so many non-Believers so narrow minded? - 7/2/2010 12:30:03 AM   
Rule


Posts: 10479
Joined: 12/5/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: LanceHughes
quote:

ORIGINAL: Rule
quote:

ORIGINAL: LanceHughes
WEARY, weary, weary...... get it?

So drop it. Go do something fun instead of something wearying.

As in my "finalized" answer to the OP, I often find the religious, spiritual, whatever to be condescending.  Thanks for another prime example.

Umm, LH, my post did not have anything to do with religion nor spirituality, nor whatevers. Neither was it condescending. It was instead well-intentioned advice.

(in reply to LanceHughes)
Profile   Post #: 181
RE: Why are so many non-Believers so narrow minded? - 7/2/2010 5:28:45 AM   
tazzygirl


Posts: 37833
Joined: 10/12/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: LanceHughes

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: LanceHughes

You NEVER said "son."  You used the phrase "little boy."  And I made no assumption about what you meant by that phrase.  You don't or can't even read what you wrote.



quote:

And i did mean back UNDER your bed. That is where my little boy hid when he feared the monsters in the closet.
(emphasis mine)

My son is my little boy. And i did use those exact words. My little boy. Again with the reading comprehension.


Yes, you did use those words.  I said you did not use the word "son."

"my little boy" could mean many other things than "son."  We'll start with an adopted male child.  How about a nephew - not adopted, but you have custody due to either death of his parent's or an ugly situation.... or many other circumstances.  "my little boy" means - to me - a young male child.  If he's your son, say so..... don't leave the reader guessing what you mean.


Spoken like a man who has no children. I have often discussed my son on these boards.

The only one guessing is you. And since it is only you, the problem lies with you.

_____________________________

Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
Duchess of Dissent 1
Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

(in reply to LanceHughes)
Profile   Post #: 182
RE: Why are so many non-Believers so narrow minded? - 7/2/2010 5:30:42 AM   
tazzygirl


Posts: 37833
Joined: 10/12/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: LanceHughes

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

I got no problem with that. None at all. You do realize the Senate has a Chaplain, yes?

You bet I do.  Do you want me to list the hundreds of separation "violations"?  How 'bout coinage?  The pledge of Alligance?

I'm WEARY of making these lists,  WEARY of asking for what is correct and logical.  WEARY, weary, weary...... get it?

ETA: National Day of Prayer.  National holiday for Christmas.....


IF its legally approved by our government, how can they be violations?

_____________________________

Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
Duchess of Dissent 1
Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

(in reply to LanceHughes)
Profile   Post #: 183
RE: Why are so many non-Believers so narrow minded? - 7/2/2010 9:58:02 AM   
eihwaz


Posts: 367
Joined: 10/6/2008
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

quote:

ORIGINAL: LanceHughes
You bet I do.  Do you want me to list the hundreds of separation "violations"?  How 'bout coinage?  The pledge of Alligance?
[...]
ETA: National Day of Prayer.  National holiday for Christmas.....


IF its legally approved by our government, how can they be violations?

I think he meant violation of the principle of separation of religion and state.  It's certainly possible for legal activities to do so.

(in reply to tazzygirl)
Profile   Post #: 184
RE: Why are so many non-Believers so narrow minded? - 7/2/2010 9:11:27 PM   
vincentML


Posts: 9980
Joined: 10/31/2009
Status: offline
Maybe one reason why atheists are perceived to be narrow-minded is because believers do not know how to speak to atheists nor how to listen to them according to the Evangelical author of this article. Krattenmaker reports:

"What do Christians learn when they start listening to atheists? Henderson, author of the forthcoming book The Outsider Interviews, has found that the "I'm right/you're wrong" model is a conversation-killer par excellence. So is speaking of non-converts as "lost." "Nothing sets off an atheist more than hearing a Christian say, 'I know Jesus is God and that I'm going to heaven when I die,' " Henderson says. "They also notice that we often say it loudly and arrogantly, which only serves to reinforce their negative opinion of our certainty.

<SNIP>

As Christian pastor Samir Selmanovic has written, two-way conversations with the not-like-minded are vital for a devout person's spiritual growth. Selmanovic, author of the 2009 book It's Really All about God, wrote in a Huffington Post article that friendly atheists are "desirable and necessary interlocutors in our human conversation. ... To us religious people, atheists are not only precious neighbors but also strangers who see what we cannot see and ask questions that we don't know how to ask. ... Atheists are God's whistle-blowers."


Just a thought



_____________________________

vML

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. ~ MLK Jr.

(in reply to Marini)
Profile   Post #: 185
RE: Why are so many non-Believers so narrow minded? - 7/2/2010 10:22:17 PM   
brainiacsub


Posts: 1209
Joined: 11/11/2007
From: San Antonio, TX
Status: offline
Read the whole article, Vincent and thought it was crap. The comments left by registered users were entertaining. Loved this one the best:

"This article reminds me of Rush Limbaugh always having a "black friend" in the studio during his racially charged rants. Is having "my atheist friend" supposed to deflect your bigotry and hatred of other beliefs? "

(in reply to vincentML)
Profile   Post #: 186
RE: Why are so many non-Believers so narrow minded? - 7/3/2010 6:19:10 AM   
vincentML


Posts: 9980
Joined: 10/31/2009
Status: offline
That's funny and a valid point, braini.

I just wanted to reveal a Christian source that confirms what has been said in this thread: the religious could profit from opening their own minds and not be so filled with their own certitude.

_____________________________

vML

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. ~ MLK Jr.

(in reply to brainiacsub)
Profile   Post #: 187
RE: Why are so many non-Believers so narrow minded? - 7/3/2010 7:06:44 AM   
seekingOwnertoo


Posts: 1323
Joined: 8/1/2009
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML

That's funny and a valid point, braini.

I just wanted to reveal a Christian source that confirms what has been said in this thread: the religious could profit from opening their own minds and not be so filled with their own certitude.



And if I may add, practicing what they preach, too!

(in reply to vincentML)
Profile   Post #: 188
RE: Why are so many non-Believers so narrow minded? - 7/3/2010 7:41:07 AM   
Musicmystery


Posts: 30259
Joined: 3/14/2005
Status: offline
Jesus was a lot nicer in the New Testament.

I wonder what happened.

(in reply to seekingOwnertoo)
Profile   Post #: 189
RE: Why are so many non-Believers so narrow minded? - 7/3/2010 7:42:08 AM   
Jeffff


Posts: 12600
Joined: 7/7/2007
Status: offline
Water into wine........ not counting the whole incident at the temple, Jesus was not a mean drunk.

_____________________________

"If you don't live it, it won't come out your horn." Charlie Parker

(in reply to Musicmystery)
Profile   Post #: 190
RE: Why are so many non-Believers so narrow minded? - 7/3/2010 7:44:59 AM   
Musicmystery


Posts: 30259
Joined: 3/14/2005
Status: offline
Can we get him into Messiahs Anonymous?


(in reply to Jeffff)
Profile   Post #: 191
RE: Why are so many non-Believers so narrow minded? - 7/3/2010 12:16:41 PM   
vincentML


Posts: 9980
Joined: 10/31/2009
Status: offline
I read through this thread and wondered if Marini was right. Am I close-minded to religious belief as an atheist? Speaking only for myself here so if some other atheist doesn’t like what I have to say, well tough nuggies.

The simple answer is Yes. It seems so freakin obvious. How could any atheist deny it? I am closed-minded against religious belief. I own it but how to explain it?

In reading a history of the Reformation I came across the fact that Martin Luther wrote a tract called “The Freedom of a Christian.” Luther was set free by the Gospels from ecclesiastical authority, from the “false” sacrament of the Mass, the payment of indulgences to escape Purgatory, and from the veneration of relics. The Word of the Book gave him an evangelical enthusiasm which made him intolerant of papal and council doctrine. His freedom came from that epiphany.

I was not struck dumb on the road to Damascus like Paul, nor did I go through a conversion like Augustine, nor was I “born again” like Martin. But I very much had an epiphany over time that has been reinforced by reading and conversation and which brought me to the realization that I am free from belief in the existence of a supernatural world. I am free to live my life without laboring under the superstition of demons, angels, and gods; or the rapture of heaven and the pain of hell. I am liberated from the wishful thinking that my personality and memory will survive the death of my brain.

In sum, what is often described as atheistic narrow-mindedness is simply the enthusiasm of Liberty. Sometimes, that Liberty reveals itself as intolerance against religious thought, and so it is, because I have rejected those otherworldly concepts. I very much try to guard, however, against intolerance of religious people.

I think the OP was right on the mark. Marini should not have been castigated for the question she asked. There was no need for atheists to get defensive about the framing of the question. I take no offense at the question. I do not join those who say, “Oh boo hoo, the religious are also narrow-minded.” I do not care if they are. Speaking for myself, the answer is yes, as an atheist I am narrow-minded and it is so because I have Freedom from superstition and the supernatural.

Perhaps all of this has already been said, but I felt the need to express myself. Don't ask me what nuggies are. An expression from my childhood.

Rock on, Marini.


_____________________________

vML

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. ~ MLK Jr.

(in reply to Marini)
Profile   Post #: 192
RE: Why are so many non-Believers so narrow minded? - 7/3/2010 11:33:46 PM   
Marini


Posts: 3629
Joined: 2/14/2010
Status: offline
Thank you vincent for the kind words.
The fact that you realize that you can be narrow-minded at times, makes
you a lot more open minded than most people.
 
Thank you for speaking up for me.
I put on big girl panties when I post here, and I let a lot roll off of my back.

The only person you can really control is yourself.
To each their own.  

< Message edited by Marini -- 7/3/2010 11:45:53 PM >


_____________________________

As always, To EACH their Own.
"And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. "
Nelson Mandela
Life-long Democrat, not happy at all with Democratic Party.
NOT a Republican/Moderate and free agent

(in reply to vincentML)
Profile   Post #: 193
RE: Why are so many non-Believers so narrow minded? - 7/6/2010 4:21:00 AM   
GotSteel


Posts: 5871
Joined: 2/19/2008
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyCimarron
I would appreciate it if you would not attribute things to me that I did not state. That statment was made by MikeyofGeorgia in post #106.  I really hope that was just a mistake.

Wow, I apologize; I have no idea how I managed to fuck that up. All I can say is sorry, it was not my intent to attribute Mikey's statement to you.

(in reply to LadyCimarron)
Profile   Post #: 194
Page:   <<   < prev  6 7 8 9 [10]
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> RE: Why are so many non-Believers so narrow minded? Page: <<   < prev  6 7 8 9 [10]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.109