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Moonhead -> RE: "Its in my handwriting" Kagan says (6/30/2010 4:16:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: flcouple2009 Moon, You must remember we have some posters here who are jammed so far right, they think the middle is the left. A good point, well made.

Politesub53 -> RE: "Its in my handwriting" Kagan says (6/30/2010 4:22:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy I didnt say "identical", I said "as far left". Still waiting for your examples of the differences. "Every bit as far left" seems to mean the same as identical to me. You have a habit of making stupid comments then going off track when challenged. I find it strange that two English guys had to educate you on McCarthy.

domiguy -> RE: "Its in my handwriting" Kagan says (6/30/2010 4:25:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy in response to whether she wrote a memo that led to distortions in the reporting of a scientific study on partial birth abortion. Why did she try to duck repeated questioning about whether she wrote it? Is she really so slow on her feet that she thought "Its in my handwriting" would end the issue? This is only one of several evasive answers, particularly damning because she criticized prior nominees for being vacuous in their answers. Obv this doesnt change the fact that she will be nominated. What it does do is make it clear that she was nominated because she is a far left idealogue that fits Obama's vision and need for an activist judge. The only saving grace for the most ridiculous nomination since Harriet Miers is that she is replacing another liberal. Hopefully Obama never gets a chance to change the balance of the Court. I agree...We need corporations buying elections. Poor wilbur.

Archer -> RE: "Its in my handwriting" Kagan says (6/30/2010 4:27:08 PM)
OMG DomKen and I agree on something quick duck and cover we're a full two years ahead of the Mayan schedule. LOL Wait I'll set the world right again and post something he'll disagree with by way of solution. Shrink the size of the government and you could eliminate several of those appointments. LOL Shrink or not the idea that some of these jobs are presidential appointments makes them frighteningly partisan both directions

domiguy -> RE: "Its in my handwriting" Kagan says (6/30/2010 4:28:31 PM)
there are no republicans out here on CM...Oh no!!! Only centrists and the financially responsible. Idiots.

DomKen -> RE: "Its in my handwriting" Kagan says (6/30/2010 4:43:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Archer OMG DomKen and I agree on something quick duck and cover we're a full two years ahead of the Mayan schedule. LOL Wait I'll set the world right again and post something he'll disagree with by way of solution. Shrink the size of the government and you could eliminate several of those appointments. LOL Shrink or not the idea that some of these jobs are presidential appointments makes them frighteningly partisan both directions You could. I've always thought the Office of National Drug Control Policy (The so called Drug Czar) was completely redundant and existed strictly for political reasons. I've long been in favor of shrinking the government. The problem is I want to shrink the stuff that costs us money not the stuff conservatives want to cut. For instance The US Army and USAF could be drastically reduced in size and equipment acquisition and unit organization could be oriented to small units capable of independent operations with emphasis on urban settings. We have absolutely no need for 9000+ Abrams tanks. As a amtter of fact the USAF should be merged back into the US Army. The reduction in overhead and redundacy would produce many billions in savings. The Department of Homeland Security could be completely eliminated and the constituent parts returned to the departments from whence they came. Some FBI/CIA/NSA/etc. joint operations center could achieve the departments goals without adding an entire cabinent department. Now that stuff would save a whole lot of money but it doesn't make the libertarians and cons hearts flutter like slashing things like EPA does. The difference is my suggestion does us no harm while eliminating EPA, FDA or DoEnergy would reduce oversight of industries that have proven they cannot be trusted.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: "Its in my handwriting" Kagan says (6/30/2010 5:54:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania . They are using archaic rules to hold up other appointments... such as the head of homeland security.... Yeah, much worse than the Democrats changing traditional rules to block Bush's appointments.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: "Its in my handwriting" Kagan says (6/30/2010 5:55:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead Apart from the one about nationalism I posted Didnt see it. what about "nationalism"?

willbeurdaddy -> RE: "Its in my handwriting" Kagan says (6/30/2010 5:58:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania quote: Both sides have taken to holding up appointments as a means to gum up the ability of the other side to make things happen on their agendas. Democrats usually pussied out from obstructing... If you look at how the use of the filibuster has escalated since Obama took office, it is shameful ORLY. Do you know the definition of a a filibuster? Do you know how many there were in 2009?

juliaoceania -> RE: "Its in my handwriting" Kagan says (6/30/2010 5:59:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania . They are using archaic rules to hold up other appointments... such as the head of homeland security.... Yeah, much worse than the Democrats changing traditional rules to block Bush's appointments. 1) do two wrongs make a right? 2) Were there ever high level appointments like Director of Homeland Security that democrats blocked...this has been for MONTHS. This is a national security issue, and the people's business http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2010/01/gop_reportedly_holding_up_home.html

juliaoceania -> RE: "Its in my handwriting" Kagan says (6/30/2010 6:01:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania quote: Both sides have taken to holding up appointments as a means to gum up the ability of the other side to make things happen on their agendas. Democrats usually pussied out from obstructing... If you look at how the use of the filibuster has escalated since Obama took office, it is shameful ORLY. Do you know the definition of a a filibuster? Do you know how many there were in 2009? Here you are oh dense one http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/record-breaking-senate-conservatives-use-filibuster-for-62nd-time-in-this-session-of-congress-58789162.html

willbeurdaddy -> RE: "Its in my handwriting" Kagan says (6/30/2010 6:02:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy I didnt say "identical", I said "as far left". Still waiting for your examples of the differences. "Every bit as far left" seems to mean the same as identical to me. You have a habit of making stupid comments then going off track when challenged. I find it strange that two English guys had to educate you on McCarthy. They were wrong about McCarthy, so no education there. As far as them seeming identical to you, you apparently have trouble with English, not me. A simple example should suffice. If Chomsky has x far left positions and x centrist positions, and Obama has exactly the opposite positions, then Obama is every bit as far left, yet not one position is identical. Did you graduate middle school?

Owner59 -> RE: "Its in my handwriting" Kagan says (6/30/2010 6:04:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife I'm not going to take my time to look up what you post if you can't be bothered to add a link to your own thread, nor am I going to take your word for what was said without the actual comments. I posted a link in my 1st post.The 2nd post of the thread.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: "Its in my handwriting" Kagan says (6/30/2010 6:18:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania 1) Do two wrongs make a right? 2) Were there ever high level appointments like Director of Homeland Security that democrats blocked...this has been for MONTHS. This is a national security issue, and the people's business http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2010/01/gop_reportedly_holding_up_home.html 1) No. However you display a lack of objectivity when you only mention the current one. If you think pointing that out is attempting to make either of them "right" then you need some lessons in logic. 2) 180 nominations blocked at one point, including head of the FEC. If you dont think enforcing election law is a national security issue, then look at the countries where it isnt enforced. Director of Homeland Security? I assume you mean Secretary, since there is no "Director". And thats Napolitano. So exactly who is being blocked? And why dont you answer my previous question...what is a filibuster and how many were there in 2009?

juliaoceania -> RE: "Its in my handwriting" Kagan says (6/30/2010 6:28:13 PM)
quote: 1) No. However you display a lack of objectivity when you only mention the current one. If you think pointing that out is attempting to make either of them "right" then you need some lessons in logic. I am not a democrat and I do not approve of what they are doing with their power 1 quote: 80 nominations blocked at one point, including head of the FEC. If you dont think enforcing election law is a national security issue, then look at the countries where it isnt enforced . http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/05/AR2010020502098.html quote: Director of Homeland Security? I assume you mean Secretary, since there is no "Director". And thats Napolitano. So exactly who is being blocked? Actually I meant the TSA, which is important for our national security.... here is a link http://www.thesunnews.com/2010/06/25/1553428/obama-finally-has-success-with.html

willbeurdaddy -> RE: "Its in my handwriting" Kagan says (6/30/2010 6:32:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania Actually I meant the TSA, which is important for our national security.... I dont need a link, Im not dependent on them like so many here. TSA is very important for our national security, which is why making sure Southers was never head of it was critical. The man is an incompetent who was named as payback for Obamas union support. Like so many other Obama's shortsighted appointees, he should have had Southers vetted before he embarassed himself once again. At least Pistole has some credibility. Mission accomplished. Still stuck on that filibuster question, eh?

juliaoceania -> RE: "Its in my handwriting" Kagan says (6/30/2010 6:35:58 PM)
quote: I dont need a link, Im not dependent on them like so many here. TSA is very important for our national security, which is why making sure Southers is never head of it is critical. The man is an incompetent who was named as payback for Obamas union support. Like so many other Obama's shortsighted appointees, he should have had Southers vetted before he embarassed himself once again. Still stuck on that filibuster question, eh? I gave you a link supporting my position about republican filibustering 62 times.... and yet you want to go back to eighth grade and want me to prove I know what a filibuster is. I am not going to play your elementary school game... if you want to start an American Political Thread 101, feel free, but I am not going to dignify that bullshit with a response... Edited to add, it is fairly obvious you do not rely on information other than what you hear on Fox News...

willbeurdaddy -> RE: "Its in my handwriting" Kagan says (6/30/2010 6:37:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania quote: I dont need a link, Im not dependent on them like so many here. TSA is very important for our national security, which is why making sure Southers is never head of it is critical. The man is an incompetent who was named as payback for Obamas union support. Like so many other Obama's shortsighted appointees, he should have had Southers vetted before he embarassed himself once again. Still stuck on that filibuster question, eh? I gave you a link supporting my position about republican filibustering 62 times.... and yet you want to go back to eighth grade and want me to prove I know what a filibuster is. I am not going to play your elementary school game... if you want to start an American Political Thread 101, feel free, but I am not going to dignify that bullshit with a response... Your link is nonsene if it says there were 62 filibusters. The answer is none, not a single one.

juliaoceania -> RE: "Its in my handwriting" Kagan says (6/30/2010 6:41:42 PM)
quote: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/wire/sns-ap-us-senate-rollcall-spending,0,7853114.story The 57-41 roll call Thursday by which Senate Democrats failed to break a Republican filibuster blocking a bill to continue weekly jobless benefits for long-term unemployed workers and provide new aid to state governments. Democrats needed 60 votes to stop the GOP filibuster. A "yes" vote is a vote in favor of proceeding to the bill. Voting yes were 55 Democrats, 0 Republicans and 2 independents. This is just from today... you are really uninformed

willbeurdaddy -> RE: "Its in my handwriting" Kagan says (6/30/2010 6:49:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania quote: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/wire/sns-ap-us-senate-rollcall-spending,0,7853114.story The 57-41 roll call Thursday by which Senate Democrats failed to break a Republican filibuster blocking a bill to continue weekly jobless benefits for long-term unemployed workers and provide new aid to state governments. Democrats needed 60 votes to stop the GOP filibuster. A "yes" vote is a vote in favor of proceeding to the bill. Voting yes were 55 Democrats, 0 Republicans and 2 independents. This is just from today... you are really uninformed No, you apparently dont realize we arent in 2009 anymore. You also apparently dont realize that an action to block cloture is not the sole determinant of what is or isnt a filibuster. You can quote inaccurate articles all you like, it doesnt change the meanings of words.

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