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RE: How come sometimes when you're royally pissed off y... - 7/1/2010 3:39:19 PM   
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All very interesting:)


It certainly is, with my example I was amazed that tension in my body can lead to pain....once I had an intensive argument with a train ticket controller (mentioned it at a different thread already before) as he tried to accuse me with indirect speech that I would be lying to him...a la there is no bus from A to Z meaning therefore it can't be true that I usually take the bus...so I reminded him which bus number goes from A-Z...and that fucktard did this 3-4 times, another example was where he questioned the fact that I told him I am only twice a week there at uni, asking me where I would be then instead...so I barked at him at work in XYZ and offered him to talk to my boss if he needs proof of that...so needless to say I really had enough of him...he simply wasn't capable to differentiating that not everyone with a wrong ticket is a fraudster on purpose...I was checked before and was never penalised but now all of a sudden I was told my ticket is wrong....and gosh did I argue with him as a conviction could have put my studies on hold (sounds ridicioulus but is true, afterwards I wrote a complain to every place I could find to complain about - inclusive a survey questionnaire I got from that railway company just a few days afterwards, following which at some point they settled it with paying a 54 pound fee)....after that event (as charming as he is he also kept my student ticket which entitled me to cheaper fares when I booked weekly or monthly cards) I had to leave uni after 20-30 minutes as my whole body was just an aching mess....at that time I did not know that I have fibromyalgia and so did not know what causes the all over the body pain now...

On another occassion one lazy colleague did wind me up and I messaged my boss whilst walking to another work place and was so in rage about her, on that occassion the right side of my face turned into pain...so I have no influence which muscles end up in pain but I do know that such events do lead to pain for me, so I learned a lot now to...shut up and do as I am told Thats pain free

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RE: How come sometimes when you're royally pissed off y... - 7/1/2010 6:01:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sometimes if I am in a fight or flight mode because we're fighting, I can't be trusted not to attack the other person if they get to close and invade my personal space, so if Daddy and I are fighting I tell him to leave me alone,  DO NOT invade my space I can't be trusted, and other times when we're fighting it reaches a certain point and the anger turns to sobs and I just want him to hold me and let me howl.

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RE: How come sometimes when you're royally pissed off y... - 7/1/2010 6:20:41 PM   
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ometimes if I am in a fight or flight mode because we're fighting, I can't be trusted not to attack the other person if they get to close and invade my personal space, so if Daddy and I are fighting I tell him to leave me alone, DO NOT invade my space I can't be trusted
It is good that you recognize this, but you are not assuming control of yourself by telling HIM to stay away. What if he doesn't? What is he is just as angry as you are and will not back down? In fact, not only will he not back down, but he actually does invade your space? Would you feel it was his fault that you hauled off and clobbered him? I hate to tell you it would NOT be his fault...it would be yours. It would be you that lost control, and you that would face charges if the police became involved.

It is commendable that you recognize you might lose control, but i really think you need to be pro-active in stopping any potential violence by being the one to walk away. From what you wrote, your self-control is dictated by HIS actions, and that is not good.
Raising your hand to someone in anger is not acceptable, and you know that, so by being the one to walk away you will be sure it does not happen.


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RE: How come sometimes when you're royally pissed off y... - 7/1/2010 7:03:37 PM   
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The shaking is a side-effect of high levels of adrenaline on the nervous system
Most do not realize that adrenaline causes a change in the breathing pattern.
Sharp short breaths can deprive the brain of oxygen, causing a lack of control as far as rational/thought process, however slight. The brain, when deprived of even the slightest amount of oxygen, will go into a form of Fight or Flight mode, mistaken as an even higher level of agitation, which causes more adrenalin to be released, which alters the breathing pattern even further....a vicious cycle for some.

The best thing to do is sit down and concentrate on maintaining a level, even breathing pattern.






Why can't we just encourage hyper-ventilating until they pass out?  Once that happens the breathing goes back to normal on its own. 

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RE: How come sometimes when you're royally pissed off y... - 7/1/2010 7:05:41 PM   
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RE: How come sometimes when you're royally pissed off y... - 7/1/2010 7:08:36 PM   
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Raising your hand to someone in anger is not acceptable, and you know that, so by being the one to walk away you will be sure it does not happen.


I would add a, "in most circumstances." After the part I bold-ed. 

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RE: How come sometimes when you're royally pissed off y... - 7/1/2010 7:08:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

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The shaking is a side-effect of high levels of adrenaline on the nervous system
Most do not realize that adrenaline causes a change in the breathing pattern.
Sharp short breaths can deprive the brain of oxygen, causing a lack of control as far as rational/thought process, however slight. The brain, when deprived of even the slightest amount of oxygen, will go into a form of Fight or Flight mode, mistaken as an even higher level of agitation, which causes more adrenalin to be released, which alters the breathing pattern even further....a vicious cycle for some.

The best thing to do is sit down and concentrate on maintaining a level, even breathing pattern.






Why can't we just encourage hyper-ventilating until they pass out?  Once that happens the breathing goes back to normal on its own. 
Now you know...you just KNOW some dumb-ass will do it near the basement stairs.


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RE: How come sometimes when you're royally pissed off y... - 7/1/2010 7:11:37 PM   
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Aylee, I may have said this in the future, but it bears repeating...

I like the way you think, darlin'!


Awwwww!  Thanks! 

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RE: How come sometimes when you're royally pissed off y... - 7/1/2010 7:15:15 PM   
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Now you know...you just KNOW some dumb-ass will do it near the basement stairs.



  Note to self:  Send supply of paper-lunch-bags to Holly for prevention of fainting due to uncontrolled hyper-ventilation. 

  Second Note to self:  Cancel order for pallet of paper-lunch-bags.  Holly will likely just forget that she is angry before fainting. 

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RE: How come sometimes when you're royally pissed off y... - 7/1/2010 7:21:10 PM   
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RE: How come sometimes when you're royally pissed off y... - 7/2/2010 8:46:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		There are times he wouldn't get out of my space and I removed myself. I remember one time we were arguing and shouting and it was getting so out of hand, and I told him leave me alone, and he said no, we're going to talk this out, and I walked into the house locked the door behind me, went pee* since that was where I was heading in the first place finished up* And I sat down  on the couch and calmed down until I was ready to be a reasonable human being again then I got up, unlocked the back door and THEN we worked it out, and calmly no less.

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

It is good that you recognize this, but you are not assuming control of yourself by telling HIM to stay away. What if he doesn't? What is he is just as angry as you are and will not back down? In fact, not only will he not back down, but he actually does invade your space? Would you feel it was his fault that you hauled off and clobbered him? I hate to tell you it would NOT be his fault...it would be yours. It would be you that lost control, and you that would face charges if the police became involved.

It is commendable that you recognize you might lose control, but i really think you need to be pro-active in stopping any potential violence by being the one to walk away. From what you wrote, your self-control is dictated by HIS actions, and that is not good.
Raising your hand to someone in anger is not acceptable, and you know that, so by being the one to walk away you will be sure it does not happen.


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RE: How come sometimes when you're royally pissed off y... - 7/2/2010 8:56:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah... if I am that pissed nothing happens until I release it. I don't shake though, I yawn. I always tell my friends and family if we are arguing and I start to yawn... RUN!

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When I get to that point, I actually can't eat anything until I have calmed down at least partially.


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RE: How come sometimes when you're royally pissed off y... - 7/2/2010 9:58:01 AM   
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Yeah... if I am that pissed nothing happens until I release it. I don't shake though, I yawn. I always tell my friends and family if we are arguing and I start to yawn... RUN!

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When I get to that point, I actually can't eat anything until I have calmed down at least partially.


lol...i swear i do the same thing! Or if i am crying, i will yawn over and over.


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RE: How come sometimes when you're royally pissed off y... - 7/2/2010 10:02:49 AM   
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Yeah... if I am that pissed nothing happens until I release it. I don't shake though, I yawn. I always tell my friends and family if we are arguing and I start to yawn... RUN!

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ORIGINAL: SassySarijane

When I get to that point, I actually can't eat anything until I have calmed down at least partially.


lol...i swear i do the same thing! Or if i am crying, i will yawn over and over.



you sure that your yawning isnt from your insomnia?

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RE: How come sometimes when you're royally pissed off y... - 7/2/2010 11:44:17 AM   
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you sure that your yawning isnt from your insomnia?
My understanding is it's from a change in the breathing pattern. When you are tired your breathing can slow or become shallow and yawning is simply a need for extra oxygen. The same holds true for some who experience strong emotions...they are not getting enough oxygen.


I have looked like an ass at a few funerals, btw. When my emotions are strong i YAWN.


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RE: How come sometimes when you're royally pissed off y... - 7/2/2010 1:42:25 PM   
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I have looked like an ass at a few funerals, btw. When my emotions are strong i YAWN.



muawahahahaha *sowwy*

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