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This goes out specifically to under 20s and over 60s - 7/5/2010 3:31:45 PM   
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Okay, i don't know the exact age breakdown of the D/s scene, but i would imagine that most people fall within that range. To those who don't: how has age affected your play (or has it?). What are you looking for from this lifestyle? This site? Are you getting it? Do you feel that there is any ageist bias on collarme?

i ask this question because on another thread, i was reading about 18 year olds in the lifestyle, and many of them answered the thread, and became quite defensive. It made me wonder why.

pam

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RE: This goes out specifically to under 20s and over 60s - 7/5/2010 3:54:15 PM   
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The age breakdown is more like 18-70, though I'm sure there are a couple of 85-year-olds out there hitting each other with spoons and giggling. And I'm not in the age range you wanted comments from, so I can't speak to it now, but when I was 18 I didn't feel there was an ageist bias in the slightest. I felt that people treated me the way they treat 18-year-olds everywhere, which is how I should have been treated

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RE: This goes out specifically to under 20s and over 60s - 7/5/2010 4:03:30 PM   
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To answer your questions in order of appearance;
No, so far I haven't felt any positive or negative impact (though that might be related to me respecting people that state clear age preferences in their profiles).
What I am looking for, would take a while to answer (consult my profile for some not-so-subtle hints), however given I've been around here for like... a week maybe? and already had a couple of interesting conversations, what I get out of it is somewhat en par with what I expected, so far.

As for getting defnsive, or worked up; from my perspective (read: biography), society as a whole is rather 'ageist' (you've gotta love the english language for being able to make up words just like that). Now that becomes particularly annoying, if you are one of the few non-idiot 'people' being around, but still won't be taken serious because you lack that title, this education, or simply just age. Neither immaturity, nor idiocy are age-specific, and treating them as such, is destined to treat a couple of people unfairly, and thereby piss them off, more or less.

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RE: This goes out specifically to under 20s and over 60s - 7/5/2010 5:55:57 PM   
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I'm 55, he's 57. Obviously we preferred partners of our own age. It's important to us that we be in the same life cycle.

And since I've known several people over the years with children who found partners much younger, sometimes younger than their grown children, I've seen that destroy families. Usually the relationship doesn't last, and then the parent finds that there's a lasting rift between them and their children. Not something I am willing to risk.

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RE: This goes out specifically to under 20s and over 60s - 7/5/2010 6:03:49 PM   
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I'm almost within your age guidelines.  I'm 59.  Gary is 69.  Because we are older we have many lifestyle friends in their 50's and 60s.  Age doesn't really affect our play at all.  We believe that D/s is more than the physical play anyway.  It is the relationship that is D/s, not the play times.  What we look for in the lifestyle is to be ourselves and to have a heck of a great life that is both fun and interesting.  I joined Collarme to participate and read the forums as the forum I was in at the time was closing.  I still come to Collarme to read and participate in the forums.  I have no idea if there is an age bias on Collarme.  I certainly have not been made aware of any others who don't take me seriously due to my age.  I also do not think people take me more seriously due to my age.  Age has never been a factor in what we do at all.  What I have seen on Collarme are good well thought out posts being given the respect they deserve, no matter what age. 

However, if you are talking about certain people having a preference for partners of certain ages, well, that is a preference.  I can't think of one person who does not have a preference when seeking partners.  There is a thread today about height and whether many female submissives want taller Dominants.  Some people seek HWP while others are turned on by BBW's.  Some people dislike redheads.  Some adore blue eyes.  Having a preference for a partner who is older, or younger, or close to the same age is just that, a preference.  I love long hair on a man.  The top of Gary's head is shiny and smooth and the hair on the side of his head is short.  My preference was put aside as he has so many other wonderful qualities. 

I think the TNG groups are great for those young people who do not feel comfortable with older folk.  I am also happy that in one of the groups to which I belong, the younger ones seem comfortable with the older ones. 



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RE: This goes out specifically to under 20s and over 60s - 7/5/2010 7:25:13 PM   
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For some years now I have had the pleasure of knowing a wonderful man who was in his mid 70s when I met him and is now a robust 83.

He wants the exactly same things out of this lifestyle that most other bottoms/submissives want, namely a connection with a regular Dominant to submit to and a good thrashing now and then.

I first learned to use a cane on his willing bottom and he has been a delightful friend in the years since.  And even now he can take a longer, harder caning than most anyone else I know.

Sadly he's moved out of state but we still keep in touch and being that he is something of a SAM he is happily terrorizing Dommes up and down the East Coast.

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RE: This goes out specifically to under 20s and over 60s - 7/5/2010 7:41:44 PM   
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The field of people who are possible friends or partners definitely narrows rather quickly as you get older, but that seems more a natural progression than anything about this particular lifestyle.

I pretty much want what I have always wanted from relationships, unconditional  love and acceptance, but I recognize the narcissistic nature of that longing and am quite aware of the crimp that puts in being "other oriented".

I am heartened by ourmsbetty's post however.  That sounds wonderful, no matter what the age of the D.  Sometimes I do feel that as I get older and knees get creakier, etc. that I have less to offer in this role, but her post makes it clear that that isn't a productive focus.  Thanks omb.

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RE: This goes out specifically to under 20s and over 60s - 7/5/2010 7:44:32 PM   
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i don't typically have any problems with my age in this lifestyle. here and there(rare, but happens), i get hostility from those who think i am here to just scam money, or dominants who believe i am impressionable and will try to turn me submissive, or that i have no clue what i am doing. but as i said, these are rare occasions. i am very secure in my position in this lifestyle and seeing as we all have to start somewhere, my age is not really a factor.

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RE: This goes out specifically to under 20s and over 60s - 7/5/2010 9:00:19 PM   
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the OP mixed things up and meant OVER 20 and UNDER 60?

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RE: This goes out specifically to under 20s and over 60s - 7/5/2010 9:12:05 PM   
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I think she had it right. She said most fall between that range, then directed her question for those who dont.

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RE: This goes out specifically to under 20s and over 60s - 7/5/2010 9:17:30 PM   
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Sorry, i meant to say:

i think most people on this site are between the ages of 20-60.
i am specifically soliciting the opinions of those who fall outside this age range. (namely, younger than 20, or older than 60). i want to know if being so far out of this age range makes it difficult for them.

pam

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RE: This goes out specifically to under 20s and over 60s - 7/5/2010 9:32:55 PM   
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i'll be honest with You. i've heard ageist things said on this site. Hell, i've said ageist things on this site. i never gave it a second thought, until i read that thread and saw how young people reacted. It gave me a start. i don't think of myself as being a prejudiced person, but seeing that made me question how i think and speak about young people. i think i am guilty of being a little bit prejudiced. i'll work on it. Anyway, i'm glad the site has met Your expectations, so far.

pam

P.S. - i still haven't decided whether the term "Master" refers to simply to Someone's orientation, or whether it is a status that has to be earned. No offense.

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RE: This goes out specifically to under 20s and over 60s - 7/5/2010 9:36:01 PM   
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Edited because it wasn't fair.


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RE: This goes out specifically to under 20s and over 60s - 7/5/2010 11:04:09 PM   
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Sorry to be replying again so soon, but i wanted to clarify:

i'm not trying to call anyone out who answered the original thread of "What's with all the 18 year olds calling themselves Masters?" (The thread was called something like that...) i was not referring to that thread specifically when i said that i've heard ageist things on this site. i was not referring to anyone specifically, either. Actually, i didn't think that OP was ageist, or that my response was ageist, but when i saw several young people react so strongly, it made me do a double take. Like, maybe there's a reason they're reacting that way. Upon examination, i had to admit that i do sometimes say things that are ageist. i have heard other people on this site do it as well, on occasion. (Please don't assume i am talking about YOU.) i'm not referencing any specific person or statement, i'm just saying that things like that are said, sometimes. i guess i never really thought about it, until now. So, that's why i started this thread, because i wanted to hear the opinions of people who are outside the standard age bracket for this site. What are their experiences? Do they feel they are discriminated against or not taken seriously because of their age.

It seems to me that many people who answered the thread feel that the term "Master" implies a status/commitment/proficiency that must be EARNED BY EXPERIENCE. If that is the case then it's fair to say that the average 18-year-old cannot have earned the title of "Master", yet. On the other hand, if the term simply refers to an orientation (the same way that "Dominant" and "submissive" refer to orientations or temperments) then anyone who feels that they have that orientation is free to refer to themselves by that title.

Sorry if i have caused confusion or offended anyone.

pam

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RE: This goes out specifically to under 20s and over 60s - 7/6/2010 5:01:08 AM   
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My experience indicates that in Australia if you are over the age between 45 and 50 you Are over then hill and an old fart who no one wants to play with unless you are wealthy or have 20 years of proven public experience in the local scene. This is not just my personal experience but supported by a large number of people I am in regular contact about the country.. 

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RE: This goes out specifically to under 20s and over 60s - 7/6/2010 5:35:51 AM   
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quote:

My experience indicates that in Australia if you are over the age between 45 and 50 you Are over then hill and an old fart who no one wants to play with unless you are wealthy or have 20 years of proven public experience in the local scene. This is not just my personal experience but supported by a large number of people I am in regular contact about the country..

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RE: This goes out specifically to under 20s and over 60s - 7/6/2010 5:48:34 AM   
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then what says you of people who are brand new to the scene in every way and calls themself a master or mistress...but is in their mid-30s? nobody ever says anything about that.

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RE: This goes out specifically to under 20s and over 60s - 7/6/2010 5:49:38 AM   
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quote:

Okay, i don't know the exact age breakdown of the D/s scene, but i would imagine that most people fall within that range. To those who don't: how has age affected your play (or has it?). What are you looking for from this lifestyle? This site? Are you getting it? Do you feel that there is any ageist bias on collarme?

i ask this question because on another thread, i was reading about 18 year olds in the lifestyle, and many of them answered the thread, and became quite defensive. It made me wonder why.

pam


pam,

I can speak directly to this issue since I am Emeritus status. I came to CM from a long time server that was closing their chat area which was fairly extensive. I had been on that site for about six years and was very well known. No one knew my age because we had no profiles. My pm box was always filling the screen at a rate of 2 or three at a time when I was on line.

Around the same time frame I had a profile on Bondage that reflected age.......... the interactive difference was significant.

The conclusion to be drawn is that most fems prefer studs as a primary consideration.......... but I get even because I will never consider a fem under 40,

CP

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RE: This goes out specifically to under 20s and over 60s - 7/6/2010 6:46:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MissAsylum

then what says you of people who are brand new to the scene in every way and calls themself a master or mistress...but is in their mid-30s? nobody ever says anything about that.

Don't be so quick about that.  I can promise you from personal experience that isn't the case.  At the ripe old age of 28, there were people who didn't take Me seriously at first and I had the slave that belonged to Me at the time.

Obviously, I'm not in either of the age brackets that is being referred to by the OP.  Also, I realize the question was directed specifically to the experience here on CM.  Yet, I'm really surprised that nobody has mentioned a particular issue that revolves around those in the 18-20 bracket.  That being, it can be much harder to find groups in the real world because many of them still have their minimum age of 21.  The same can be said of certain public BDSM clubs and even some national events.  Depending on where you live, that can put you between a rock and a hard place when it comes to learning from those who have experience for the very fact that you can't get in the door.  The situation can absolutely be stacked against you.


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RE: This goes out specifically to under 20s and over 60s - 7/6/2010 7:46:50 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: gungadin09

Okay, i don't know the exact age breakdown of the D/s scene, but i would imagine that most people fall within that range. To those who don't: how has age affected your play (or has it?). What are you looking for from this lifestyle? This site? Are you getting it? Do you feel that there is any ageist bias on collarme?

i ask this question because on another thread, i was reading about 18 year olds in the lifestyle, and many of them answered the thread, and became quite defensive. It made me wonder why.

pam


I turned 50 a few months ago and Himself will be 60 next year so we're probably close enough to be able to answer some of your questions. Has age affected how we play? Absolutely! For me, as I age, my skin gets thinner despite my kevlar ass so I can't take a 6 hour beating anymore.. not even close. About two hours with a hard strapping or single tail is my stamina limit. I don't recover, physically, as fast as I used to but mentally, I'm much quicker to recover my senses than I used to be. I can't stand as long in up-right bondage or put pressure on knees which have knelt in sublication for so many years and it's much harder to mindfuck my cynical old brain. In some respects I have much more patience than I used to have and in others I won't give two seconds of thought to certain issues because time has become very precious to me and I have a strong dislike for wasting even mere seconds of it.

For Himself, as he nears retirement age, there are other issues such as health, eyesight etc., which effect how we play and how long we play as well. He's not going to be able to catch me if I were to fall from a suspension, so we don't do that anymore. We tend to linger and go slower indulging our appetites over the small stuff that we never really appreciated until now. We have both gotten much more creative with design schemes and things of that nature as well so the look of the play is different now than it used to be. Where before you would see mad chaos after something like a cutting, now you will see details where none used to exist because we have both gotten more visually sensitive and have the desire to please the eye more than we used to (although I was always more about that than Himself). We have learned to adapt and to substitute when old hat has, by necessity, become non-existant. We savor rather than devour and while it's still mostly shoot from the hip, we're not quite as hip as we used to be so there is more planning than in the past. Another thing that comes with our experience of one another is really letting go of things *just* for the experience of having them and doing things together that really rock our world and going from lots of quantity to more selective quality and being able to meter when & where things will fit in best with life for us. Overall, I'm having a blast in my *older* age and look forward to Himself retiring and having all that time that is currently devoted to his career instead devoted strictly to us.

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