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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 7:42:33 AM   
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Nugent is a wild spirit who symbolizes a lot of the rock generation I grew up with and he speaks the truth in a very animated, vivd and straightforward manner that strikes fear in the hearts of many on the left because he is so popular... and the fact that he is a rocker who had sex once with a young woman is immaterial to me. I've had sex with women younger than myself as well, and its like, so fucking what. People are going to come here on this site and act like puritans?

They can kiss my ass.



Ted Nugent wasn't even respected when he was making music.

He was a bubble-gum rocker that appealed to the 12 and 13-year olds and those with the mentality of that age group.

Cat Scratch Fever?  Wang Dang Sweet Poontang?  



Bubble gum???? roflmao. You do realize that he and the Dukes made what is widely considered to be the first psychedelic record? You probably think the Strawberry Alarm Clock was a bubbegum band too.

First psychedellic record? In 1968? Yeah, right. Maybe you should google Piper At The Gates Of Dawn and Revolver while you're online. SF Sorrow, An Electric Storm, Are You Experienced, The Who Sell Out, Fuschia and What We Did On Our Holidays might be worth a look as well.
Just out of interest, while we're on this, when were the Great Society version of Somebody To Love and Eight Miles High released?


The demo of Journey was recorded by the first (Nugent led) Dukes lineup in 1965.


"The Charlatans were the first truly psychedelic band that actually played while on acid. They were directly inspired by the Mystery Trend. The Charlatans started their career in 1964 at the Red Dog Saloon in Virginia City near Reno in the high Sierras, drawing audiences from their friends in the Haight-Ashbury (notably the original Family Dog commune, and Kesey's Merry Pranksters). Later that summer they moved back to S.F. and started playing at the Matrix and other newly opened venues, including the Fillmore.


The Charlatans included Richard Olsen on bass, Mike Wilhelm on guitar and vocals, Dan Hicks on drums and vocals, and Mike Ferguson on keyboards, with George Hunter on style (he created that Wild West Victorian hippie look). Dan Hicks went on to form Dan Hicks & His Hot Licks. Ferguson was one of the first to open a "head shop" in the Haight-Ashbury, called "The Magic Theatre for Madmen Only" (from Herman Hesse's Steppenwolf). Hunter was one of the first Haight-Ashbury poster artists, along with Family Dog member Alton Kelley.


A version of "Alabama Bound" first appeared on "The Amazing Charlatans" album (Big Beat-UK). The Charlatans musical style could be described as early wild-west-Victorian-hippie rock, and was appreciated and even partially copied by many S.F. bands that came later, including the Grateful Dead, Quicksilver Messenger Service, and Country Joe and the Fish. I've heard the Grateful Dead do a version of “Alabama Bound” in tribute (the same arrangement), along with David Crosby."
http://www.rockument.com/Rockument/Scenes-sf_rock.html



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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 7:43:56 AM   
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He sure has had a lot of hits for someone who had their career ruined.


Look up his history and compare his career before and after the marriage to his cousin.

Here's a start for you:


Jerry Lee Lewis - Wikipedia

Lewis's turbulent personal life was hidden from the public until a May 1958 British tour where Ray Berry, a news agency reporter at London's Heathrow Airport (the only journalist present), learned about Lewis's third wife, Myra Gale Brown. She was Lewis's first cousin once removed and only 13 years old. (Brown, Lewis, and his management all insisted she was 15). Lewis was nearly 23 years old. The publicity caused an uproar and the tour was cancelled after only three concerts.

The scandal followed Lewis home to America, and as a result, he was blacklisted from radio and almost vanished from the music scene.

Lewis felt betrayed by numerous people who had been his supporters. Dick Clark dropped him from his shows. Lewis even felt that Sam Phillips had sold him out when the Sun Records boss released "The Return of Jerry Lee", a bogus "interview" cut together by Jack Clement from excerpts of Lewis's songs, which made light of his marital and publicity problems. Only Alan Freed stayed true to Jerry Lee Lewis, playing his records until Freed was removed from the air because of payola allegations.

Jerry Lee Lewis was still under contract with Sun Records, and kept recording, regularly releasing singles. He had gone from $10,000 a night concerts to $250 a night spots in beer joints and small clubs. He had few friends at the time whom he felt he could trust. It was only through Kay Martin, the president of Lewis's fan club, T. L. Meade, (aka Franz Douskey) a sometime Memphis musician and friend of Sam Phillips, and Gary Skala, that Lewis went back to record at Sun Records.

By this time, Phillips had built a new state-of-the-art studio at 639 Madison Avenue in Memphis, thus abandoning the old Union Avenue studio where Phillips had recorded B. B. King, Howlin' Wolf, Elvis Presley, Carl Perkins, Lewis, Johnny Cash and others, and also opened a studio in Nashville. It was at the latter studio that Lewis recorded his only major hit during this period, a rendition of Ray Charles' "What'd I Say" in 1961.
In Europe other updated versions of "Sweet Little Sixteen" (September 1962 UK) and "Good Golly Miss Molly" (March 1963) entered the Hit Parade. On popular EPs, "Hang Up My Rock and Roll Shoes", "I've Been Twistin'", "Money" and "Hello Josephine" also became turntable hits, especially in nascent discothèques. Another recording of Lewis playing an instrumental boogie arrangement of the Glenn Miller Orchestra favorite "In the Mood", was issued on the Phillips International label under the pseudonym of "The Hawk," but disc jockeys quickly figured out the distinctive piano style, and this gambit failed.

Lewis's Sun recording contract ended in 1963 and he joined Smash Records, where he made a number of rock recordings that did not further his career.


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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 7:55:04 AM   
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Funny how it was OK when a rock and roll star in the past married his teenage cousin years ago. Wasn't that the Big Bopper ?

Not that I condone these things but if it's not OK for one it is not OK for another.

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No, it was Jerry Lee Lewis back in the fifties and the scandal essentially ruined his career.

He sure has had a lot of hits for someone who had their career ruined.


If you watched any of the specials or shows about Lewis,his career did fizzle.Sure he had some hits(so did Michael Jackson) but after the scandal was well known,he wasn`t getting work and no one was hiring him.

If he Lewis had been a bit more cunning,he would have become an "effective Conservative spokesmen, such as Ted Nugent" and then all his sins would be washed away clean.

And if I recall,Michael Jackson supported liberal causes.I don`t recall the left embracing him after his proclivities became know.

The funniest thing so far in this thread is sanity suggesting I`m part of the left digging up dirt.

First off,there`s no digging necessary.Cons deliver this shit to our doors,rapped w/ a bow tie.

Secondly,this is old news.Decades old.Multiple sourced and in many non-political journals.Watch any old nuge special and he made no attempt to hide his abuse.In every interview with family friends or associates,they all say the same thing.ted never took a drug,a drink or smoked.His "only" weakness was underage girls.

If cons are going to suggest this is being made up,please please please,keep going.Don`t stop defending ted or his behavior.





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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 7:58:23 AM   
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and as his cousin Jimmy Swaggart found out, even older girls can ruin certain types of careers.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 7:58:25 AM   
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I started to post all the other stuff from your Wiki article, since there is a lot more about his successes than his scandal. but decided against it.  Folks with ruined careers are inducted in to the hall of fame daily I reckon.

I bow to your superior knowledge.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 8:01:37 AM   
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and as his cousin Jimmy Swaggart found out, even older girls can ruin certain types of careers.
Jimmy shoulda followed Jerry and Mickey to the honkytonks.  They can flat ass smoke some pianos!

Of course, Jimmy only looked at the hookers, he didn't touch em, so I reckon he still has his sanctity.


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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 8:06:01 AM   
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and that boy could make tammy fae baker look like she was absolutely mirthful the way he could lay on a cry.  

he would do wonderfully at honky tonk songs. 

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 8:40:00 AM   
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No willbur...we can't possibly go around deciding who can and can not have a "political impact".
On the other hand I can ,and in fact do ,dismiss completely those who parrot what some actor or musician spouts .The ability to hit a note or toe a mark while reading the lines someone else wrote does not in and of itself qualify said actor/musician as a political savant.
Owning a bully pulpit in which one can pop off with the most rediculous claptrap doesn't mean I will stop ,listen and heed.


lol bono

idk who ted nugent even is
Bono has gained and proven his credibility and commitment many times over...and completely irrespective of his musical contributions with U2.....I never said the ability to sing or recite lines automaticaly means someone is an idiot.....Just that I don't believe in giving wieght to thier opinions based solely on that dubious ability.
If my forst post on this gave that impression I apologise.....lol.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 8:41:19 AM   
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I started to post all the other stuff from your Wiki article, since there is a lot more about his successes than his scandal. but decided against it.  Folks with ruined careers are inducted in to the hall of fame daily I reckon.

I bow to your superior knowledge.


Well, how about you "reckon" on how he spent years rebuilding his career and "reckon" how he was on a par with Elvis before the scandal.

I "reckon" you might want to read some of the books written about him or the movie he participated in making where he does not deny the toll the scandal took on his career.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 9:31:51 AM   
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Well, how about you "reckon" on how he spent years rebuilding his career and "reckon" how he was on a par with Elvis before the scandal.

I "reckon" you might want to read some of the books written about him or the movie he participated in making where he does not deny the toll the scandal took on his career.

I reckon not.  Why you do the "" around reckon? You trying to tell me I don't speak proper or something?

eta I reckon now that you are saying took a toll on his career instead of ruined it, we are in total agreement.  Reckon you'll sleep good tonight knowing that huh?

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 11:39:44 AM   
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This happened in 1978.  Why are people so fuzzed up about it now?

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 11:42:57 AM   
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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 12:18:28 PM   
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Nugent is a wild spirit who symbolizes a lot of the rock generation I grew up with and he speaks the truth in a very animated, vivd and straightforward manner that strikes fear in the hearts of many on the left because he is so popular... and the fact that he is a rocker who had sex once with a young woman is immaterial to me. I've had sex with women younger than myself as well, and its like, so fucking what. People are going to come here on this site and act like puritans?

They can kiss my ass.



Ted Nugent wasn't even respected when he was making music.

He was a bubble-gum rocker that appealed to the 12 and 13-year olds and those with the mentality of that age group.

Cat Scratch Fever?  Wang Dang Sweet Poontang?  



Bubble gum???? roflmao. You do realize that he and the Dukes made what is widely considered to be the first psychedelic record? You probably think the Strawberry Alarm Clock was a bubbegum band too.

First psychedellic record? In 1968? Yeah, right. Maybe you should google Piper At The Gates Of Dawn and Revolver while you're online. SF Sorrow, An Electric Storm, Are You Experienced, The Who Sell Out, Fuschia and What We Did On Our Holidays might be worth a look as well.
Just out of interest, while we're on this, when were the Great Society version of Somebody To Love and Eight Miles High released?


The demo of Journey was recorded by the first (Nugent led) Dukes lineup in 1965.


"The Charlatans were the first truly psychedelic band that actually played while on acid. They were directly inspired by the Mystery Trend. The Charlatans started their career in 1964 at the Red Dog Saloon in Virginia City near Reno in the high Sierras, drawing audiences from their friends in the Haight-Ashbury (notably the original Family Dog commune, and Kesey's Merry Pranksters). Later that summer they moved back to S.F. and started playing at the Matrix and other newly opened venues, including the Fillmore.


The Charlatans included Richard Olsen on bass, Mike Wilhelm on guitar and vocals, Dan Hicks on drums and vocals, and Mike Ferguson on keyboards, with George Hunter on style (he created that Wild West Victorian hippie look). Dan Hicks went on to form Dan Hicks & His Hot Licks. Ferguson was one of the first to open a "head shop" in the Haight-Ashbury, called "The Magic Theatre for Madmen Only" (from Herman Hesse's Steppenwolf). Hunter was one of the first Haight-Ashbury poster artists, along with Family Dog member Alton Kelley.


A version of "Alabama Bound" first appeared on "The Amazing Charlatans" album (Big Beat-UK). The Charlatans musical style could be described as early wild-west-Victorian-hippie rock, and was appreciated and even partially copied by many S.F. bands that came later, including the Grateful Dead, Quicksilver Messenger Service, and Country Joe and the Fish. I've heard the Grateful Dead do a version of “Alabama Bound” in tribute (the same arrangement), along with David Crosby."
http://www.rockument.com/Rockument/Scenes-sf_rock.html



Thank you. I was pretty sure Wilbur was talking out of his arse yet again on that one.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 1:22:46 PM   
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And by republican officials,elected and appointed.

I understand if this tread might get pulled.

But I still have to ask.



Why is this man given any credibility and or attention?



http://www.spin.com/articles/rock-n-roll-hall-sleaze

" Ted Nugent Madman; carnivore Best described as: Maniacal Claim to eternal infamy: Though best known today as a guy who'd rather be bow-hunting, the Nuge cut a wide swath through the untamed pubic hair of the 1970s. His crowning achievement occurred in 1978, when Nugent became the legal guardian of a 17-year-old Hawaiian girl"

http://www.activemusician.com/Ted-Nugent-Biography--t8i2885

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Nugent


And I have to ask why you are such an asshole?  I have no idea what the relationship has been.  Why do you assume the worst?  Is that what women mean to you? 

I honestly do not fucking care what their relaitonship has been.  It has been 32 years.  If she did not like it she could have spoken out.  (It takes about 7 years for someone in a domestic violence situation.)  She had time. 

If this is some angst over the Roman Polanski thing, I am sorry.  But bringing up something that happened over 32 years ago to a girl that is about 50 now. . . is just fucked up.  Find your absolution somewhere else. 

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 1:29:38 PM   
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If this is some angst over the Roman Polanski thing, I am sorry.  But bringing up something that happened over 32 years ago to a girl that is about 50 now. . . is just fucked up.  Find your absolution somewhere else. 


Nothing to do with it. He thinks dissing an entertainer somehow scores points against conservatives when he's got Clinton, Gore and Edwards, leaders of the libs, to try and hide.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 1:34:58 PM   
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If this is some angst over the Roman Polanski thing, I am sorry.  But bringing up something that happened over 32 years ago to a girl that is about 50 now. . . is just fucked up.  Find your absolution somewhere else. 


Nothing to do with it. He thinks dissing an entertainer somehow scores points against conservatives when he's got Clinton, Gore and Edwards, leaders of the libs, to try and hide.

Quite. It isn't like anybody on the conservative side of the fence was complaining about liberal Hollywood degenerates after the stories about Roman Polanski and Woody Allen broke, is it? Those few brave reactionaries who somehow manage to find a mass audience in spite of the liberal media conspiracy were far too classy to even mention any of that.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 1:44:00 PM   
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I have not read the thread, but I do have an issue with the title...

Having sex with a 17 year old may make you a fucktard, could get you 20 to life in many places, but it does not make you a child molester. 17 year olds are fully pass puberty. Nugent maybe despicable for many reasons, but that doesn't make him a pedophile.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 1:47:50 PM   
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Okay, lets score some points. . . Woody Allen is an ass.   Roman Polanski is an ass.  Overall, these entertainers are an ass.  Is that settled?

Should we bring up something from 32 years ago?  NO!  Damnit! 

Is there nothing in your neighborhood that needs protected?  Maybe your daughter?  From a scary band person?

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 1:51:47 PM   
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Okay, lets score some points. . . Woody Allen is an ass.   Roman Polanski is an ass.  Overall, these entertainers are an ass.  Is that settled?

Should we bring up something from 32 years ago?  NO!  Damnit! 

Is there nothing in your neighborhood that needs protected?  Maybe your daughter?  From a scary band person?

Mercifully, I don't live in a country where a political party who make a big deal of moral values and ideological purity has spent the last few years adopting a washed up entertainer as a talking head, while ignoring his taste for jailbait.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 1:56:28 PM   
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And, a great many of your liberal brethren are eager to support an asshole as long as the asshole says what they want to hear.

So what's your point?


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