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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 9:02:40 PM   
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Oh.The "it doesn`t make sense" defense.How novel.


Ya know,if uncle teddy had just fucked her without creating a paper trail,he might have plausible deniability.

While you`re not looking for Obama`s birth certificate in Hawaii,why don`t you not look for ted`s adoption papers.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 9:04:50 PM   
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Ya know,if uncle teddy had just fucked her without creating a paper trail,he might have plausible deniability.


Deniability for what? Sleeping with someone 3 years older than the legal age of consent?

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 9:17:45 PM   
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Fuckin' rock stars do a lot worse than that every day, and always have. The real issue is Teds political orientation...

Can you say "double standard"?

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Ya know,if uncle teddy had just fucked her without creating a paper trail,he might have plausible deniability.


Deniability for what? Sleeping with someone 3 years older than the legal age of consent?


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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 9:23:07 PM   
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Fuckin' rock stars do a lot worse than that every day, and always have. The real issue is Teds political orientation...

Can you say "double standard"?


Yeah, I actually agree with this. The title of this thread is a dead giveaway - this is about politics, not sex.

That being said, that legal guardianship thing? Totes skeevy.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 9:24:43 PM   
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I saw a clip of an interview with his oldest daughter,years and years ago on an Mtv special.She mentioned him bringing a 13 year old girl home and how awkward she felt about her age.That footage is still out thare.

This behavior was serial and on going.

It may have been "legal",what he did,a 30 y/o doing a 17 y/o,(which is a minor,adults are 18 and older).Or it it?? AOC laws are meant to cover youngsters loving youngsters,not 30 year olds fucking minors.

But I defy anyone to explain how that isn`t fucked up.

Or how it is this deviant is writing op eds in the Washington Times or preaching morality on foxnews.



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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 9:32:52 PM   
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I saw a clip of an interview with his oldest daughter,years and years ago on an Mtv special.She mentioned him bringing a 13 year old girl home and how awkward she felt about her age.That footage is still out thare.


If that accusation is true, it's pretty disgusting and creepy.

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It may have been "legal",what he did,a 30 y/o doing a 17 y/o,(which is a minor,adults are 18 and older).Or it it?? AOC laws are meant to cover youngsters loving youngsters,not 30 year olds fucking minors.


Well you totally have every right to judge him for his actions. There was another thread fairly recently about a guy in his 50's dating a 19 year old or something. Lots of people thought that was creepy too.

But if she's 3 years over the age of consent as well as being only a couple months away from legal adulthood, calling it pedophilia or molestation is over the top.

The 13 year old, on the other hand. That's just wrong.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 9:37:19 PM   
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You seem like a reasonable and thoughtful poster.

Thanks for the exchanges.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 9:42:47 PM   
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You seem like a reasonable and thoughtful poster.

Thanks for the exchanges.


Aww thanks I try. Sometimes.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 9:55:54 PM   
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More is expected of a President.


Which is why they should get all the blow jobs they can handle... we expect so much of them, it is the least we can do
This I agree with wholeheartedly.


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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 10:15:19 PM   
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Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist media?


I hope no one had to read 7 pages of posts to see the equivalent of:

"Because he says things that righties want to hear."


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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 11:03:07 PM   
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AOC laws are meant to cover youngsters loving youngsters,not 30 year olds fucking minors.





Uh, no they arent. In fact several states make exceptions to age of consent laws when the older party is just beyond the age of consent his/herself.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/8/2010 11:06:06 PM   
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I saw a clip of an interview with his oldest daughter,years and years ago on an Mtv special.She mentioned him bringing a 13 year old girl home and how awkward she felt about her age.That footage is still out thare.


If that accusation is true, it's pretty disgusting and creepy.

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It may have been "legal",what he did,a 30 y/o doing a 17 y/o,(which is a minor,adults are 18 and older).Or it it?? AOC laws are meant to cover youngsters loving youngsters,not 30 year olds fucking minors.


Well you totally have every right to judge him for his actions. There was another thread fairly recently about a guy in his 50's dating a 19 year old or something. Lots of people thought that was creepy too.

But if she's 3 years over the age of consent as well as being only a couple months away from legal adulthood, calling it pedophilia or molestation is over the top.

The 13 year old, on the other hand. That's just wrong.


On this site for anyone to say that 50/19 is creepy is beyond hypocritical with the other practices that abound. 59/24 must really be unnatural by those standards. lol

And Ill believe the 13 yo story when I see it somewhere credible. Owner59 is far from that.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/9/2010 12:11:07 AM   
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And Ill believe the 13 yo story when I see it somewhere credible. Owner59 is far from that.


Nah bro, you have to prove him wrong.

Don't you know how it works here?

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/9/2010 9:07:06 AM   
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But... but... but... he saw it somewhere. He swears! 

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And Ill believe the 13 yo story when I see it somewhere credible. Owner59 is far from that.


Nah bro, you have to prove him wrong.

Don't you know how it works here?


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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/9/2010 9:40:53 AM   
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An interesting article. Never knew Ted thought of himself as a true liberal...


When he says that the US campaign in Iraq is strategically brilliant, I'm not sure even he believes it.

"What makes you think everything's going so well?"

"Well, for one thing, we haven't been attacked again, since 9/11."

"Tell that to commuters in Madrid and London."

"I don't believe those things happened because the Spanish and the Brits were in Iraq."

"Really?"

"Really."

"Are you never plagued by doubt?"

"Never. My confidence level is insane. If there is one thing I am, it's always right. I consider myself a true liberal. I am armed in order to stop good people being destroyed by bad people. Liberalism is assisting quality of life, whatever you may choose. I think that homosexuality is wrong. I think that people who drink, smoke and take drugs are doing wrong.

"But I'll tell you how I judge people. The people that ran up those burning towers on September 11 were my heroes. And among those warriors who ran back to save their fellow human beings, you know what there were? Homosexuals. Smokers. Drinkers. People I wouldn't agree with on numerous conduct levels. I judge people on this: are they in the asset column, or the liability column?"

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/ted-nugent-off-his-rocker-479556.html

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/9/2010 1:12:17 PM   
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And by republican officials,elected and appointed.

I understand if this tread might get pulled.

But I still have to ask.



Why is this man given any credibility and or attention?



http://www.spin.com/articles/rock-n-roll-hall-sleaze

" Ted Nugent Madman; carnivore Best described as: Maniacal Claim to eternal infamy: Though best known today as a guy who'd rather be bow-hunting, the Nuge cut a wide swath through the untamed pubic hair of the 1970s. His crowning achievement occurred in 1978, when Nugent became the legal guardian of a 17-year-old Hawaiian girl"

http://www.activemusician.com/Ted-Nugent-Biography--t8i2885

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Nugent



Owner, couldn't you ask the same question about Woody Allen? He's a "darling" of the left.
And if memory serves, Bill Clinton likes 'em "young" too.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/9/2010 1:26:53 PM   
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Fuckin' rock stars do a lot worse than that every day, and always have. The real issue is Teds political orientation...

Can you say "double standard"?


Can you say hypocrisy?

Other rock stars don't get on the soapbox and denounce others while doing the same thing.

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/9/2010 2:30:30 PM   
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And by republican officials,elected and appointed.

I understand if this tread might get pulled.

But I still have to ask.



Why is this man given any credibility and or attention?



http://www.spin.com/articles/rock-n-roll-hall-sleaze

" Ted Nugent Madman; carnivore Best described as: Maniacal Claim to eternal infamy: Though best known today as a guy who'd rather be bow-hunting, the Nuge cut a wide swath through the untamed pubic hair of the 1970s. His crowning achievement occurred in 1978, when Nugent became the legal guardian of a 17-year-old Hawaiian girl"

http://www.activemusician.com/Ted-Nugent-Biography--t8i2885

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Nugent



Owner, couldn't you ask the same question about Woody Allen? He's a "darling" of the left.
And if memory serves, Bill Clinton likes 'em "young" too.



Then you`re agreeing with me, concerning uncle teddy.

Personally,I can`t watch a Woody Allen movie any more.I used to love them.From "Everything You Wanted To Know About Sex But Were Afraid To Ask" and Sleeper all the way up to "Annie Hall"The guy made good art.But I don`t see him on left TV or moralizing,though.

It`s the hypocrisy folks can`t stand.


I turn the radio when I hear Jackson Brown(beating his g/f to a pulp),Michael Jackson(nuff said) or uncle teddy(same).

Another I can`t watch anymore.Mel Gibson(racist) ,

I also don`t like what Clinton did either and have said so.It was very selfish and immature and destructive.

When people sum Clinton or Sen. Byrd or anyone else up,I don`t think anyone deserves a pass.Their positive traits are matched against their flaws.Good works against mistakes.When people consider those mis-deeds Pop,they also take into account contrition and taking responsibility and such. But no one should escape scrutiny for what they did,15 years ago of 55 years ago.


The same goes for uncle ted.



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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/9/2010 2:31:41 PM   
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Fuckin' rock stars do a lot worse than that every day, and always have. The real issue is Teds political orientation...

Can you say "double standard"?


Can you say hypocrisy?

Other rock stars don't get on the soapbox and denounce others while doing the same thing.


Unless they're Metallica, who've spent years whining about people ripping off their songs on the internet, despite having based a lengthy and lucrative career on pinching stuff from Motorhead...

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RE: Why is UM molester Ted Nugent embraced by rightist ... - 7/9/2010 2:56:05 PM   
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Good point.Lars strikes me a a crybaby if there ever was one.

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