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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/9/2010 12:36:12 AM   
AQuietSimpleMan


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it has to be my peers, who can operate without prejudice or bias. i have made friends and enemies on the general/master/mistress/submissive boards... im a relative unknown with the goreans. if we can get 12 of them together, i will seek summary judgment.


OKAY I AM STILL LAUGHING!!!!!

12 Jarls, to determin the fate of a Mouthy Kajirus.

STILL LAUGHING!!!!!!

QSM

(Sorry I am really Sorry but that was Funny as Hell)

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/9/2010 12:36:13 AM   
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it has to be my peers, who can operate without prejudice or bias. i have made friends and enemies on the general/master/mistress/submissive boards... im a relative unknown with the goreans. if we can get 12 of them together, i will seek summary judgment.


Cool you should go post a thread on their forum asking them if they're game. Make sure to mention how you need a jury of your peers.

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/9/2010 12:37:24 AM   
Rule


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ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan
Is there ANYONE who wants him to stay?

I have no opinion on this. This thread is the first time I have seen his posts.

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/9/2010 12:38:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: submissivemale22


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ORIGINAL: submissivemale22


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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael
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ORIGINAL: submissivemale22
2) of course i want to communicate with you. i think a lack of communication is the source of any problems that we had. i assumed based on my experience on other boards that moderation was reserved for worst case scenarios. i also assumed that i would be warned when i came close to having problematic conduct. if i would have known you had problems with me, i would definitely have found a way to make it right.


Kid, if any of that is true, you got a raw deal, moderation should be progressive and educational, not reactive and over the top. Many of your posts violated the TOS for the forums but for whatever reason, that was overlooked.

I gotta call bullshit on this. I saw submale's posts on moderation just a week ago, then they came through immediately for a few days, now they are on mod again. Does it really count as "no warning" when someone just off moderation breaks TOS again??




here is what i got banned for:

It is a violation of our TOS/Forum Guidlines to name individual posters with the possibility or intent to cause negative reactions.

Besides the fact that people have done this to me without consequence (though i do not care at all), i have read both the TOS and the Forum Guidelines and see no reference prohibiting this activity.


Actually, the more i think about it, we are arguing the wrong point here:

yes, i concede that i was acting immaturely at times and even posting irresponsibly (though i contend that i did contribute), but the reality is that this is a doped up charge. my initial appeal was on the wrong grounds- if justice prevails i should walk on this.


This isn't a court of law, just in case you missed that little fact.

The "Law" here is the sites TOS.

Justice is metered out by the owner of the site and the Mods according to TOS and the the Country of the sites registration  laws and regulations pertaining to acceptable internet practices.

Here you do not "walk" and there is no "should".

This is a free site and you are here as a guest of the owner.
He or She has the sole right - with powers delegated to Moderation - to evict guests who can not play by the house rules.

Period.

< Message edited by BentUnit -- 7/9/2010 12:41:41 AM >

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/9/2010 12:40:05 AM   
submissivemale22


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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

Took me about 2 seconds to find this:
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This isn't a place to insult the kinks, preferences, lifestyles, etc. of others. If you don't like what another person enjoys, rest assured that there are plenty of others out there that probably don't like your activities either. Furthermore, baiting, harassment and personal attacks will not be tolerated.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_72/tm.htm
JMO, but I'd say calling out 20 or so forum regulars while shoving them into insulting little boxes of your making (yes, I saw the post before it was pulled) qualifies here.



Wait a minute now... if you read the content, you know that i didn't insult kinks, preferences, or lifestyles of other users anywhere in that thread. Again, if this is decided on the merits, my post did not violate any specific conditions.

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/9/2010 12:44:26 AM   
Rule


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ORIGINAL: submissivemale22
Im not allowed to edit. The only pertinent part though was the immediately preceding quote.

I meant to please edit a quote before you post a post, not after you made the post. You ought to be able to do that, not so?

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/9/2010 12:45:41 AM   
submissivemale22


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ORIGINAL: BentUnit


This isn't a court of law, just in case you missed that little fact.

The "Law" here is the sites TOS.

Justice is metered out by the owner of the site and the Mods according to TOS and the the Country of the sites registration  laws and regulations pertaining to acceptable internet practices.

Here you do not "walk" and there is no "should".

This is a free site and you are here as a guest of the owner.
He or She has the sole right - with powers delegated to Moderation - to evict guests who can not play by the house rules.

Period.


IF the TOS is equivalent to a constitution, i expect my sentence to be commuted. if given a legitimate chance to plead, im certain that the fact finder would absolve me of any wrong doing.

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/9/2010 12:47:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: submissivemale22

IF the TOS is equivalent to a constitution, i expect my sentence to be commuted. if given a legitimate chance to plead, im certain that the fact finder would absolve me of any wrong doing.


It's probably closer to the Ten Commandments.  Thou shalt not...



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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/9/2010 12:48:44 AM   
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in many ways, yes. i suspected the whole time that i was being treated comparatively poor to other users. and im not even saying that i didnt deserve to be banned- there were things that i did which warranted this outcome. but, for me to get a two month ban for this...

Oh, holy hell. You reach the bottom, and start to dig. Heads up, braintrust, you aren't nearly THAT special! Users, all of us, are treated according to our behaviour, both by the mods, and by each other. If you post like an asshat (which you did, and did again, and are still doing), you will get roasted by the users; if your transgressions hit the TOS or forum guidelines, you will hear from the mods. If you get modded for your behaviour, the only one you have to blame is..... YOU!



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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/9/2010 12:50:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Elisabella
Cool, because I think that's probably the reason.

Elisabella, in this case we disagree.  I would have just as much of an issue with someone who was gay bashing on a site specifically meant for the homosexual community and the people who feel the best way to protest the war is to scream defaming remarks at funerals of those KIA.

If this particular poster isn't well received, it's because he earned it.  I'm not buying the 'I've turned over a new leaf five minutes ago' stance.  I think he knew exactly what he was doing all along.


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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/9/2010 12:51:35 AM   
submissivemale22


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ORIGINAL: ModTwentyOne

quote:

ORIGINAL: submissivemale22

IF the TOS is equivalent to a constitution, i expect my sentence to be commuted. if given a legitimate chance to plead, im certain that the fact finder would absolve me of any wrong doing.


It's probably closer to the Ten Commandments.  Thou shalt not...




Regardless, i didn't violate anything within it. i think you know in your heart of hearts that im right on this one. any interpretation of it that found me in violation would be so over-broad that it would effectively shut down this board.

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/9/2010 12:56:14 AM   
WyldHrt


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quote:

Wait a minute now... if you read the content, you know that i didn't insult kinks, preferences, or lifestyles of other users anywhere in that thread. Again, if this is decided on the merits, my post did not violate any specific conditions.
You missed the WHOLE second part of that, dincha. Here it is again:
quote:

Furthermore, baiting, harassment and personal attacks will not be tolerated.



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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/9/2010 1:00:56 AM   
submissivemale22


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quote:

ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

quote:

Wait a minute now... if you read the content, you know that i didn't insult kinks, preferences, or lifestyles of other users anywhere in that thread. Again, if this is decided on the merits, my post did not violate any specific conditions.
You missed the WHOLE second part of that, dincha. Here it is again:
quote:

Furthermore, baiting, harassment and personal attacks will not be tolerated.




because i thought it was obvious that it wasn't relevant... just to save time, why dont you tell me what specifically you are accusing me of (hint: the fact that you haven't in either post is particularly revealing of your confidence)

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/9/2010 1:02:13 AM   
submissivemale22


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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

quote:

in many ways, yes. i suspected the whole time that i was being treated comparatively poor to other users. and im not even saying that i didnt deserve to be banned- there were things that i did which warranted this outcome. but, for me to get a two month ban for this...

Oh, holy hell. You reach the bottom, and start to dig. Heads up, braintrust, you aren't nearly THAT special! Users, all of us, are treated according to our behaviour, both by the mods, and by each other. If you post like an asshat (which you did, and did again, and are still doing), you will get roasted by the users; if your transgressions hit the TOS or forum guidelines, you will hear from the mods. If you get modded for your behaviour, the only one you have to blame is..... YOU!




ok, well who else do you know getting 2 months for a very mild 2 minute thread?

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/9/2010 1:08:42 AM   
AQuietSimpleMan


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ORIGINAL: submissivemale22

ok, well who else do you know getting 2 months for a very mild 2 minute thread?


I REALLY REALLY REALLY want you to think about this.

You Annoyed everyone SO BADDLY this was the only punishment that seemed logical.

THINK about why YOU would get the Moderation you got??? Maybe because you were SO inappropriate that they felt you needed to be WATCHED THAT LONG.

Also, You cannot Post a Message that has been Deleted. All of your TOS Violations have been deleted NOT Moderated. Meaning No one can actually post what you did... it no longer exists.

Which means the only thing that be talked about are all the nasty things you posted that did not Violate the rules here.... Basically.... the only ones who know exactly what you did are the Mod's and they felt you needed to be Moderated for 60 days for what it was.

Seriously just THINK about what that says about the kind of person you are as compared to the nearly 5000 posters who come to CollarChat every day.

QSM

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/9/2010 1:10:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: submissivemale22
quote:


Furthermore, baiting, harassment and personal attacks will not be tolerated.


because i thought it was obvious that it wasn't relevant... just to save time, why dont you tell me what specifically you are accusing me of (hint: the fact that you haven't in either post is particularly revealing of your confidence)


There's three.

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/9/2010 1:14:46 AM   
submissivemale22


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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

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ORIGINAL: submissivemale22
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Furthermore, baiting, harassment and personal attacks will not be tolerated.


because i thought it was obvious that it wasn't relevant... just to save time, why dont you tell me what specifically you are accusing me of (hint: the fact that you haven't in either post is particularly revealing of your confidence)


There's three.


thats a very curious post- did you even read the thread? if so, what was the title (i don't require you to be specific).

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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/9/2010 1:20:33 AM   
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because i thought it was obvious that it wasn't relevant... just to save time, why dont you tell me what specifically you are accusing me of (hint: the fact that you haven't in either post is particularly revealing of your confidence)
Hardly, I was hoping that you would somehow get it if I painted it really big on the chalkboard for you. Obviously, I was wrong. What part of you thought that your little '2 minute' thread was NOT an attack on members that you do not like? You were rather obviously trying to bait the members you named, and you got modslapped for it. Just deal with the consequences of your actions instead of whining about it here, FFS.


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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/9/2010 1:21:14 AM   
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Don't kid yourself.  It's happened.

Does anybody else remember the intersexed Dominant who came to the boards in her personal crusade about TG folks representing themselves as female?  Her brother got involved with a T-Girl and it supposedly put him in years of therapy because "those people" weren't women.

I'm sure we all remember Psychobabble.  His method for his anger issues was to post pics and opinions of non adults in the war.

The list really does go on.  And on.  And on.

There are ten or so that just really couldn't get it.  They are gone now because they couldn't understand.

I say good riddance.


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RE: How Many Strikes? - 7/9/2010 1:21:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan


Seriously just THINK about what that says about the kind of person you are as compared to the nearly 5000 posters who come to CollarChat every day.

QSM


im loud... i didn't shut up... but i didnt think they were going to take it this far.

Think about this though: why are 3 of the only 5 or so people on this site who genuinely dont like me posting in the only thread that im allowed to post in?

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