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RE: Do You Have A Kindle? - 7/8/2010 10:34:09 PM   
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No. I don't. I feel they're a rip off. You pay a shit load of money to have the actual kindle, then you got to pay out 9 or 10 dollars on average per new book.

I agree.



I actually think they're a bargain. Paperback books here in Australia are usually over $20 each, and Kindle removes the need for big bookshelves.

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RE: Do You Have A Kindle? - 7/8/2010 10:36:14 PM   
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No. I don't. I feel they're a rip off. You pay a shit load of money to have the actual kindle, then you got to pay out 9 or 10 dollars on average per new book.

I agree.



Yes 9 or 10 dollars for a new book when the hard back or paper version of the book is close to 20 dollars, I see how this is a complete rip off to sell you the book at a cheaper value.

Plus all the free books you can download, and how most paper back books (7.99) retail tend to be between 2 and 3 dollars.

I dont have a kindle but I have a droid and read from apps I have, and am considering possibly the Kobo from borders.

Most E-Readers have something in their coding, to make the pages on the screen look like actual book ink.



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RE: Do You Have A Kindle? - 7/9/2010 6:03:11 AM   
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I am so tempted, it's my biggest wish list item at Amazon.  I can see a ton of advantage and could easily talk myself into parting with some cash to own one.  My question - do you have one?  Do you love it?  Any buyer's remorse?
i am a veracious reader and a Kindle might work, but there is nothing as relaxing to me as spending HOURS in a bookstore. It may sound silly, but it is my escape when i am going into overload.


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RE: Do You Have A Kindle? - 7/9/2010 6:04:32 AM   
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I am so tempted, it's my biggest wish list item at Amazon.  I can see a ton of advantage and could easily talk myself into parting with some cash to own one.  My question - do you have one?  Do you love it?  Any buyer's remorse?


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RE: Do You Have A Kindle? - 7/9/2010 6:30:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		~FR~ i got a kindle as a gift in december and i'm still a bit iffy about it. my pros: #1- i could download the majority of my college text books, which has saved my back. #2- its simple to carry around instead of a couple of novels like i typically do.my cons: #1- i prefer physical books, but thats just me. #2- my kindle froze out on me for 2 days during finals week. #3- whenever i decide to take the metro to not deal with parking hell at my school or job, people tend to...stare...at me while reading it. i actually had somebody peering over my shoulder from behind me. *shudders* #4- i sort of feel like i'm giving off a really pretentious vibe when i have it out in a public place. sort of like the guys who blog with the newest mac book in the middle of starbucks... right where the lines are. if i didn't get it as a gift, i probably would still buy it. the fact that i would have to carry around 20lbs on my back outweighs the public awkwardness for me.

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RE: Do You Have A Kindle? - 7/9/2010 6:38:37 AM   
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I am so tempted, it's my biggest wish list item at Amazon.  I can see a ton of advantage and could easily talk myself into parting with some cash to own one.  My question - do you have one?  Do you love it?  Any buyer's remorse?


I have a Nook (B&N's version of the Kindle) and I love it. The books range from Free for some of the classics to about $13.00 for brand new releases, which is less than I pay to get them through the book clubs I belong to.

This being said, I read a LOT - I own probably close to 1000 books already in either paperback or hard-bound versions, and I'm trying to move my library to an electronic library, since my existing paper library already takes up an entire room in our house and has started expanding into another one.

I also love the ability to change font sizes so that, when I get tired, I can still read. Fixed-font books get a little tough for me, because being tired makes my MS-related vision issues more pronounced... but when I'm tired is when I -like- to read, because I find it very relaxing.

I'm even looking forward to publishing a couple of my own books (as an author) specifically for electronic-print media in the spring, if my publisher has its way.

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RE: Do You Have A Kindle? - 7/9/2010 6:43:41 AM   
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i am a veracious reader and a Kindle might work, but there is nothing as relaxing to me as spending HOURS in a bookstore. It may sound silly, but it is my escape when i am going into overload.



I still do this -- and I know you can't do this with the Kindle, but with my Nook, I can go into the B&N bookstore and browse, and while I'm there, I can actually -read- books for free in the store for up to an hour -- which is a LOT more than cover blurbs. I can actually get a good feel for whether an iffy book is worth my while, by actually getting to start it in the store. The Nook will also remember where you left off when you come back to the store, too, and let you continue reading for -another- hour right where you left off. How cool is THAT?

I don't know whether Kindle is going to offer some of these options down the road. I know that it has some other features that the Nook doesn't have, but the Nook was the better option of the two for the way that I read (mostly because it's expandable using memory cards), so I went in that direction... and I -still- get to go browse in the bookstore and smell the paper and ink. *grins*

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RE: Do You Have A Kindle? - 7/9/2010 8:23:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have a Kindle, and do most of my reading with it.  I would not use it for textbooks or for any book that's graphics-heavy.  I always write in my textbooks, and the display's monochrome with (I think) a 16-level greyscale.

However, I bought it for travel.  Instead of taking 4-7 books on a trip (I can read up to 2 a day when I'm on a roll) and taking up a ton of room in my backpack, I have only one device.  I rarely have eyestrain with it (much less than with a computer screen), and I can change the font size to suit myself.  It's perfectly readable in bright sun.  It fits in my purse.  Another reason I bought it was simply that the books are taking over my second bedroom. 

If I'm not sure I want to buy a book, I'll check it out in the public library first. 

Most paperbacks that are a few years old are around $4-6.  New ones are around $9.99.  New hardcovers are anywhere from $9.99 (high volume releases, same as the hardcover price at Target/Walmart, etc.) to $20.00.  Classic stuff is free or a dollar or two.

I have found a few books with severe formatting errors that I've sent back for a refund (I ranted and requested they "pull back" the book and they did).  In the latest case, every letter that should've been in upper case was in lower case.

I have carpal tunnel syndrome and find it a lot easier to handle the Kindle than a thick paperback or hardcover.

There's an extremely primitive browser in it (and I do mean primitive) but it's good enough for me to get on the AA site and confirm reservations.  Not much good for anything else, but it's an experimental app.

The downside for me is that it's a bit hard to find a favorite spot in a book (I re-read them); in that case it's best to put a "bookmark" while you're reading.  Otherwise it takes some practice to randomly browse the book.

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RE: Do You Have A Kindle? - 7/10/2010 3:10:50 AM   
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I'm even looking forward to publishing a couple of my own books (as an author) specifically for electronic-print media in the spring, if my publisher has its way.


I don't know anything about Kindles or their counterparts but this statement caught my eye. What format are these book files in? Is it something that can be created on a home pc? I am wondering if it would be possible for folks to become their own publisher much like folks began recording and marketing their own music albums on their home computers.


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RE: Do You Have A Kindle? - 7/10/2010 4:38:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm working through a micro-press publisher, but both B&N and Amazon apparently either have or are getting the ability for individuals to publish in the ePub format (for Nook, Sony Reader, iPad, etc.) and Kindle format on their own. The main reason to still work with a publisher, at least for me, is for marketing -- it is a heck of a lot of work handling the marketing for a book when one is -with- a publisher and they're providing financial assistance and fulfillment (though fulfillment isn't really an issue for ePub books). The advent of self-publishing brought about a lot of individuals interested in publishing their own work, but most of it  never made it to the public's awareness, because of the sheer volume of material being published.

The other reason to work with a publishing house, or at least work with a literary professional, IMO, is to assure quality editing of the manuscript. I know from experience how easy it is to miss profound grammatical errors, even with above-average writing skills. For myself, I'm exploring a lot of options, but I still hire a line/content editor to go over my work -- it's too easy to miss something when you're so familiar with the story.

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RE: Do You Have A Kindle? - 7/10/2010 5:47:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the info, this gives me a lot to consider.  I still want one......

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RE: Do You Have A Kindle? - 7/10/2010 7:34:23 AM   
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No. I don't. I feel they're a rip off. You pay a shit load of money to have the actual kindle, then you got to pay out 9 or 10 dollars on average per new book.

There's absolutely nothing wrong in my mind with an actual book that I need to go spend shit loads of money on electronic books.

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My question - do you have one?  Do you love it?  Any buyer's remorse?



I can't argue with logic like this. 

I'm also just old fashioned and like old fashioned books. 


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RE: Do You Have A Kindle? - 7/10/2010 9:03:42 AM   
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I can't argue with logic like this. 

I'm also just old fashioned and like old fashioned books. 



I love "old fashioned" books, too, but we'd reached a point where my book habit was starting to develop into "I have room for my books, but -I- am going to have to sleep outside." *LOL*

For the curious, the e-readers (at least the Kindle and Nook, which are the only ones I've been able to mess with) read like regular books. The text is crisp, with no back-lighting (which tends to be exhausting to the eyes) and no "flicker" (which is what makes reading on the computer so difficult). Plus, there is the bonus of being able to adjust text size up or down to suit personal preferences, and even change the font to the most readable for the individual (from a selection of serif and sans serif fonts).

While I suspect that I'll never be able to completely give up print books, the electronic books are certainly giving some options other than "one more triple-loaded bookshelf and the floor will collapse".

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RE: Do You Have A Kindle? - 7/10/2010 9:10:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have a Sony Reader and I just love it.  It is much smaller than the Kindle, fits into my inside jacket pocket.  Most of the books I am reading right now are free.  If I want to buy something, I would rather pay 12.99 for a digital version than 35$ for a hardcopy.  My library is literally overflowing and this helps me save trees, especially with the speed with which I read.

I did download (for free) Kindle for PC and have a nice starting collection of free books from there.  Unfortunately, unlike other readers, Kindle books are not compatible with other readers.

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RE: Do You Have A Kindle? - 7/10/2010 9:59:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		So the Nook and Kindle are different E-reader platforms?  Are the available books the same?  I rarely go to B&N, spend most of my books dollars @ Alibris, also trade books paperbackswap.com 




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RE: Do You Have A Kindle? - 7/10/2010 10:30:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yep, they're different platforms.  Most of the e-books have incompatible formats.

I think you'd have to check a sample of the books you're interested in.  I haven't seen a utility or site that tells you what titles are available in the existing e-book formats.

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RE: Do You Have A Kindle? - 7/10/2010 10:32:44 AM   
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RE: Do You Have A Kindle? - 7/10/2010 10:45:56 AM   
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I am so tempted, it's my biggest wish list item at Amazon.  I can see a ton of advantage and could easily talk myself into parting with some cash to own one.  My question - do you have one?  Do you love it?  Any buyer's remorse?


KatyLied,

I have one and received it as a gift. I don't use it a whole lot and I have a gazillion ebooks. That's one of the reasons it was given to me. I prefer hardcover books but that's my bias. One thing you should know is that it is quite fragile. It isn't the sort of thing you can slam around. But from a convenience perspective it's nice. You can also convert items from various formats with different programs like Calibre for reading on the Kindle. The price has been lowered and that is quite the drop. I don't expect it to remain in that ballpark. I will say that technical service is good and I'd recommend having a warranty on it. Some have complained about the dreaded screen of death and it does happen. Overall I recommend it if you're into technical gadgets or prefer to have a different reading source.

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RE: Do You Have A Kindle? - 7/10/2010 10:52:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		I like books. I like the feel of books. I like the way the pages turn. I like the way you can but it down with the pages open and come back to it later.

I like the way the battery never needs recharging on a book. I like the way you can give it to a friend when you are done with a book. I like the way you can trade them in at the half price book store. I like the way books smell.

I like the fact that I have books all over the place.

Books rock. Kindles are cold and unappealing.

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RE: Do You Have A Kindle? - 7/10/2010 10:57:31 AM   
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I like books. I like the feel of books. I like the way the pages turn. I like the way you can but it down with the pages open and come back to it later.

I like the way the battery never needs recharging on a book. I like the way you can give it to a friend when you are done with a book. I like the way you can trade them in at the half price book store. I like the way books smell.

I like the fact that I have books all over the place.

Books rock. Kindles are cold and unappealing.
I agree with the WhinyOne....

Plus for those of us with wee ones, I prefer them to see ol mom with a book as opposed to a gadget.

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