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TheHeretic -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/9/2010 9:11:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FatherFigureOC "Rhetoric" involves making an argument, which you aren't. There is nothing rhetorical or persuasive about "what if" you ran me over and shot me in the back. It's called an appeal to pathos, FF. That's pretty fucking basic for somebody who wants to discuss rhetoric to be ignorant of. It's an attempt to draw a bit of empathy from you towards a guy who was out having a good time on New Years Eve getting killed by a cop for no good reason whatsoever. Or do you reckon that since blacks commit so much crime, he just deserved execution for something anyway?

slvemike4u -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/9/2010 9:16:09 PM)
Yeah ,but he was a "scofflaw" Rich!

DomKen -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/9/2010 9:50:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FatherFigureOC where is your proof einstein? you scream racism but you dont have any facts. please dont cite some $PLC report. those are not facts. Taylor openly admits to being a racist. You're the one quoting the guy shouldn't you have done the basic research to verify that the source is useful and unbiased?

TheHeretic -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/9/2010 9:54:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: FatherFigureOC where is your proof einstein? you scream racism but you dont have any facts. please dont cite some $PLC report. those are not facts. Taylor openly admits to being a racist. You're the one quoting the guy shouldn't you have done the basic research to verify that the source is useful and unbiased? And always make sure that the link actually says what you claim it does, instead of just making shit up and posting a link that you hope nobody reads.

thornhappy -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/9/2010 10:21:38 PM)
Do you live in Orange County? quote: ORIGINAL: FatherFigureOC It doesn't matter if you think it was intentional or not. The cop was tried in front of a jury of his peers and they determined his crime. Just because you do not like the outcome does not change the verdict. Our system of justice is not perfect, but its the best in the world and we have to accept the verdict as it stands. Debating it is pointless. There is plenty of black on white crime in the east bay that goes unpunished, every single day.

thornhappy -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/9/2010 10:35:24 PM)
You know, I went to that report and also to the site. I've barely browsed the report and have already found a really bogus conclusion in it - they're using emergency room visits to tell which race is most likely to use drugs. That's completely bogus. Plenty of people use drugs and never rack up an ER visit. Their raw data may be from some DOJ databases, but I have serious doubts about what they are doing with the data. They say right up front that a lot of Hispanics are lumped in with whites, so how can they make these seemingly clear-cut conclusions about Hispanic violence, etc.? quote: ORIGINAL: FatherFigureOC If you're calling me a racist, that means I have won the argument. Resorting to ad hominem is a sign of intellectual bankruptcy. To wit: Major Findings:

winterlight -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/9/2010 10:46:31 PM)
I feel bad for a human being that has lost his life and for his family. Nothing will change what has happened. All are affected either by death or by the trauma of what has happened to their loved ones. I am sure there will be a lawsuit and I cannot blame them but it will never, ever bring that person back no matter what the circumstances in any town, city or place anywhere in the world. No matter where this happens nobody wins.. My thoughts and prayers to all..

Elisabella -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 12:02:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FatherFigureOC How do you even know what my skin color/ethnicity/race is? You do not. So uh whose pic is that under your name then?

Sanity -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 7:41:45 AM)
I'm as tolerant of your racism as I am of the New Black Panthers' racism, which means I'm not tolerant of it at all. Racism is ignorance.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 8:03:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FatherFigureOC "If I ever see you crossing the street and decide to run you over for being an asshat, and then put a bullet in your back just to be sure, I promise to apologize afterward. So we're good, right?" Is that a threat? No, its apparently the best analogy he could come up with.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 8:06:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: FatherFigureOC These are DOJ statistics, not my opinion. But you're entitled to be ignorant of certain irrefutable truths. Cops in Oakland do not have it easy, particularly on the west side of town. Your contempt for law enforcement is disgusting. Actually these are statistics put together by a racist organization. Jared Taylor, the author of the stuff you pasted, is an open racist who runs several notorious racist websites and organizations but I'm sure you knew that all ready. quote: http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.html Still dont have that ad hominen thing down I see.

rulemylife -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 8:07:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Would you like to outlaw everything a person might have trouble with under the influence of adrenalin, mike? You are sinking to new levels of stupidity.

rulemylife -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 8:11:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FatherFigureOC Negligence is a civil tort, not a crime. Scholars of jurisprudence you're not. This was a mistake, plain and simple. The cop said he was sorry. Get over it. Oh good, another legal expert to tell us as long as he says he is sorry everything is okey-dokey. Sure would help lighten the over-burdened courts wouldn't it?

slvemike4u -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 8:15:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Would you like to outlaw everything a person might have trouble with under the influence of adrenalin, mike? You are sinking to new levels of stupidity. Really RML ?.....seems like the same old level of stupidity to me.Shit I'm not sure there are deeper levels left[:)]

DomKen -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 8:20:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: FatherFigureOC These are DOJ statistics, not my opinion. But you're entitled to be ignorant of certain irrefutable truths. Cops in Oakland do not have it easy, particularly on the west side of town. Your contempt for law enforcement is disgusting. Actually these are statistics put together by a racist organization. Jared Taylor, the author of the stuff you pasted, is an open racist who runs several notorious racist websites and organizations but I'm sure you knew that all ready. quote: http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.html Still dont have that ad hominen thing down I see. Ad hominen would have been accusing the poster of racism without strong evidence. Taylor's racial views are a matter of public record. When someone presents a source it is perfectly legitimate to examine the source for bias. Taylor is biased.

rulemylife -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 8:28:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: FatherFigureOC "If I ever see you crossing the street and decide to run you over for being an asshat, and then put a bullet in your back just to be sure, I promise to apologize afterward. So we're good, right?" Is that a threat? No, its apparently the best analogy he could come up with. And is that the best new sockpuppet profile you can come up with? You've already admitted to being NewOCDaddy and another profile with OC in the name.

domiguy -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 8:29:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Elisabella quote: Trained professionals can either be trusted to use these "tools" correctly.....or no amount of training can prepare simple human beings for life and death situations. Which is it? Both. LEO's should be trained to be at the top of their game, but nothing is foolproof, and some people are more qualified than others. Elisabella strikes me as a highly unqualified person to be posting on these forums

Sanity -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 8:34:08 AM)
Either one of you has miles to go before you can come up to any where near my level of posts. You're both miserable self-loathing wastes of human flesh who can only manage your pathetically weak personal attacks day after day, week after week, year after year, and post after post. Like most Liberals, in fact. You can't debate the topic, you can't possibly win at that, so you sink to this level. I feel sorry for you. quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife You are sinking to new levels of stupidity. Really RML ?.....seems like the same old level of stupidity to me.Shit I'm not sure there are deeper levels left[:)]

domiguy -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 8:35:19 AM)
Was that adrenaline talking?

Elisabella -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 8:38:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy Elisabella strikes me as a highly unqualified person to be posting on these forums Hahaha I am very perfectly qualified to post on forums tyvm. I know how to use boldtext and smileys and I speak multiple dialects of bad English and I never confuse the OK button with the one marked Cancel.

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