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slvemike4u -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 8:43:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Either one of you has miles to go before you can come up to any where near my level of posts. You're both miserable self-loathing wastes of human flesh who can only manage your pathetically weak personal attacks day after day, week after week, year after year, and post after post. Like most Liberals, in fact. You can't debate the topic, you can't possibly win at that, so you sink to this level.

I feel sorry for you.


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

You are sinking to new levels of stupidity.

Really RML ?.....seems like the same old level of stupidity to me.Shit I'm not sure there are deeper levels left[:)]

And yet in the face of our "pathetically weak personal attacks" you somehow manage to retain the moral high ground by refusing to sink to our leve.....oh shit,never mind....seems you do the personal attack thing too.
Oh well.....looks like i will need to look elsewhere for moral guidence[:D]




slvemike4u -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 8:44:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Elisabella


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ORIGINAL: domiguy
Elisabella strikes me as a highly unqualified person to be posting on these forums


Hahaha

I am very perfectly qualified to post on forums tyvm. I know how to use boldtext and smileys and I speak multiple dialects of bad English and I never confuse the OK button with the one marked Cancel.

Yep....she's qualified.Now would someone please check sanity's qualifications?




Sanity -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 8:47:11 AM)


I'll climb down into your pigsty once in a while, after all I do clean up pretty good. But lets see you two try to climb out of it....

You can't do it, can you.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
And yet in the face of our "pathetically weak personal attacks" you somehow manage to retain the moral high ground by refusing to sink to our leve.....oh shit,never mind....seems you do the personal attack thing too.
Oh well.....looks like i will need to look elsewhere for moral guidence[:D]




domiguy -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 8:49:39 AM)

Actually elisabella puts a lot of thought into her posts although I my not always agree with her....And by, "Although I may not always agree with her" feel free to substitute "never."

Sanity sometimes when can't achieve "lift off" I am sure he blames it on the adrenaline.




slvemike4u -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 9:02:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


I'll climb down into your pigsty once in a while, after all I do clean up pretty good. But lets see you two try to climb out of it....

You can't do it, can you.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
And yet in the face of our "pathetically weak personal attacks" you somehow manage to retain the moral high ground by refusing to sink to our leve.....oh shit,never mind....seems you do the personal attack thing too.
Oh well.....looks like i will need to look elsewhere for moral guidence[:D]

Sure I can....here is an example......Fuck you!
How was that short and sweet and actually not personal [:D].




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 9:07:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


You're both miserable self-loathing wastes of human flesh who can only manage your pathetically weak personal attacks day after day, week after week, year after year, and post after post..... You can't debate the topic, you can't possibly win at that, so you sink to this level.




I love the smell of irony in the morning. Smells like... hypocrisy.




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 9:09:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


I'll climb down into your pigsty once in a while, after all I do clean up pretty good.


Yeah, for about 10 minutes at a time, once every 3 or 4 months. Not much to be proud of, if you ask me. But then, your standards for self-appraisal are much lower than most other people's




Sanity -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 9:09:46 AM)


You've got pig shit on your face.

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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda
I love the smell of irony in the morning. Smells like... hypocrisy.





TheHeretic -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 9:16:11 AM)

So, not to hijack this from the thrilling conversation of who is the most racist asshole, but how about that verdict? More riots if he doesn't get the maximum, plus the ridiculous 10 year enhancement for using a gun?




RacerJim -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 9:17:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: AsmodaisSin

I'm not sure what to believe.  If I state that I feel that the verdict was fair, I'm labeled as a racist.  If I say that it had to be intentional because the guy was black, I'm a racist, because that assumes that the cop was racist for shooting the guy.  I feel like no matter what response anyone gives, they're going to get that label.  It just seems all so messed up to me. 

What's even worse is that these people feel it's necessary to destroy public property in order to protest.  What does that accomplish?



What those black people accomplished was proving what anyone with half a brain knows would happen all over the country to an even most destructive level if Obama was removed from office for being a userper, which is exactly why no Court or the Congress has done so.




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 9:21:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim


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ORIGINAL: AsmodaisSin

I'm not sure what to believe.  If I state that I feel that the verdict was fair, I'm labeled as a racist.  If I say that it had to be intentional because the guy was black, I'm a racist, because that assumes that the cop was racist for shooting the guy.  I feel like no matter what response anyone gives, they're going to get that label.  It just seems all so messed up to me. 

What's even worse is that these people feel it's necessary to destroy public property in order to protest.  What does that accomplish?



What those black people accomplished was proving what anyone with half a brain knows would happen all over the country to an even most destructive level if Obama was removed from office for being a userper, which is exactly why no Court or the Congress has done so.


Just out of curiosity, what radio station do you listen to? I could use a little entertainment from time to time.




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 9:26:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

So, not to hijack this from the thrilling conversation of who is the most racist asshole, but how about that verdict? More riots if he doesn't get the maximum, plus the ridiculous 10 year enhancement for using a gun?


I think quite probably. Hard to say, though. It's a pretty unpredictable phenomenon.

Mob psychology is very difficult to predict. If I had to guess, I'd say it's more likely than not, but I wouldn't be too surprised if the first round let off enough pressure that it won't happen again. Hopefully, he gets the full load and we don't have to find out.




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 9:34:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FatherFigureOC

That was a thinly veiled hypothetical expressing intent to run me over and shoot me? I asked a foundational question, which you cannot answer a simple "yes" or a "no." The ball is in your court, homie.


I won't validate such a paranoid question with a serious answer. If that boils your blood, stew in it. I couldn't care less.



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ORIGINAL: FatherFigureOC
At this point Im guessing y'all are probably a full standard deviation lower in IQ than the general population. but thats just a guess. I dont like thinly veiled hypotheticals which involve harm to me. Your mind would be better of imagining other things and hurting and/or killing someone else.


Oh, my heavens! Was that a threat??? Oh. the horror! Whatever shall I do???

Oh, the trauma of it all. I've been cautioned by an internet tough guy. How does one go on from such a life-changing event?



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ORIGINAL: FatherFigureOC
"Rhetoric" involves making an argument, which you aren't. There is nothing rhetorical or persuasive about "what if" you ran me over and shot me in the back. If that happened, I would not have an opinion, now would I?


You already don't; at least, not a coherent one. As for your feather-fluffing huff about the "rhetorical question" remark, I can't help noting the irony of someone who's so poorly educated they don't even know what a rhetorical question is casting aspersions out of the blue on someone else's IQ.



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ORIGINAL: FatherFigureOC
Public safety often includes accidents. No man deserves to be shot in the back while prone.

But the victim in this scenario would not have been in the position he was in if he were not a scofflaw and hooligan making trouble at the Fruitvale BART platform. This is a simple concept no one here seems to understand. Just a bunch of bloviating blowhards.



Ah, yes, a "simple concept." As always, simple minds search desperately for simple answers to which to cling. You make the common conservative error of logic in assuming that because an idea is simplistic, it is by definition sensible. That's as far as you characters ever think anything through - "well, if it's easy to understand, it must be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth." The world is a more complex place than your mind can imagine.




Sanity -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 9:39:35 AM)


I'd keep my lily white ass off the streets of Oakland for a while, and just hope for the best for the people living there. Its not like rioting and looting and violence are productive ways to work out grievances but its their city I suppose, and they can do what they want to it.


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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

So, not to hijack this from the thrilling conversation of who is the most racist asshole, but how about that verdict? More riots if he doesn't get the maximum, plus the ridiculous 10 year enhancement for using a gun?


I think quite probably. Hard to say, though. It's a pretty unpredictable phenomenon.

Mob psychology is very difficult to predict. If I had to guess, I'd say it's more likely than not, but I wouldn't be too surprised if the first round let off enough pressure that it won't happen again. Hopefully, he gets the full load and we don't have to find out.





ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 9:45:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


You've got pig shit on your face.


And to think I used to wonder why you wear a Charley Brown shirt instead of a Dorothy Parker shirt.




slvemike4u -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 9:54:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


I'd keep my lily white ass off the streets of Oakland for a while, and just hope for the best for the people living there. Its not like rioting and looting and violence are productive ways to work out grievances but its their city I suppose, and they can do what they want to it.


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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

So, not to hijack this from the thrilling conversation of who is the most racist asshole, but how about that verdict? More riots if he doesn't get the maximum, plus the ridiculous 10 year enhancement for using a gun?


I think quite probably. Hard to say, though. It's a pretty unpredictable phenomenon.

Mob psychology is very difficult to predict. If I had to guess, I'd say it's more likely than not, but I wouldn't be too surprised if the first round let off enough pressure that it won't happen again. Hopefully, he gets the full load and we don't have to find out.


No sanity...they can't "do what they want with to it".There are laws against such things.....The "nanny state" frowns on the looting and the destrucion of private and public property.
It's a pain in the ass.....but this is what the "nanny state' has evolved into.




juliaoceania -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 10:21:26 AM)

Here are my thoughts, this case is another example of why I think tazers should be retired from law enforcement. Police overuse them, they do so in inappropriate situations, and tazers can be fatal for certain people...

In this situation I do not know what to say, other then we have at the very least an ill trained cop running around armed with a gun. He if he had no tazer he would have done something such as throw his body weight on this person to subdue him, since he had a tazer he was prepared to use it when it probably wasn't warranted... that in and of itself justifies the conviction against him

At worse he executed an unarmed subdued man... I wasn't on the jury, but because of the way police have historically abused minority communities, it does not surprise me that some people believe this cop got away with first degree murder... and there is some justification for that feeling




domiguy -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 10:23:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


I'd keep my lily white ass off the streets of Oakland for a while, and just hope for the best for the people living there. Its not like rioting and looting and violence are productive ways to work out grievances but its their city I suppose, and they can do what they want to it.





Our forefathers think you are a pussy.




Sanity -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 10:26:18 AM)



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Heres your shirt panda, perfectly suits your typical liberal debating style. [:)]


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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda
And to think I used to wonder why you wear a Charley Brown shirt instead of a Dorothy Parker shirt.





juliaoceania -> RE: Jury Verdict: Oakland BART shooting was involuntary manslaughter (7/10/2010 10:26:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: domiguy


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


I'd keep my lily white ass off the streets of Oakland for a while, and just hope for the best for the people living there. Its not like rioting and looting and violence are productive ways to work out grievances but its their city I suppose, and they can do what they want to it.





Our forefathers think you are a pussy.


Isn't it funny, I do not fear black people. I would go to Oakland tomorrow without a second thought....Hell, I live in an integrated neighborhood and there are actual black people living next door to me, and shockingly they have never rioted!

You are right, Sanity needs to stay his ass in Idaho with the rest of "his kind" so he won't have anxiety attacks




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