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There are no easy answers on all of this

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Each year- the public gets harder to deal with.  Cops do have a hard job.

As a society we have thrown out manners and civility.   So- some of the people who get tazed - likely were antagonistic.   Suicide rates of cops are pretty high.

There are no easy answers on all of this.

We do have a lot of bad boys- a good number who should be behind bars.  

Often when I see a story crying abuse- I wonder if the person was antagonistic to the cops.

Manner still count- and some people don't have any.

I hope to never be tazed.    That could take abit of effort to show good manners.    Some obnoxious people tho think they have the right to step on everyone and then some.

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Each year- the public gets harder to deal with.  Cops do have a hard job.

As a society we have thrown out manners and civility.   So- some of the people who get tazed - likely were antagonistic.   Suicide rates of cops are pretty high.

There are no easy answers on all of this.

We do have a lot of bad boys- a good number who should be behind bars.  

Often when I see a story crying abuse- I wonder if the person was antagonistic to the cops.

Manner still count- and some people don't have any.

I hope to never be tazed.    That could take abit of effort to show good manners.    Some obnoxious people tho think they have the right to step on everyone and then some.

The trouble is regards antagonism, who is more likely to be believed, the copper that swears the oath, or who they come into confrontation with. How many cases do you think exist where a cocky police cuntstable interferes with something outside of his jurisdiction and what happens because of his unwarranted actions is people are made into criminals. We have already established not all the police are worthy of the office they hold, who says even they are going to do their job with respect for others, or is it a case  of I am the big I am, I will do as I please after all, it is my word against theirs are who is likely to be believed.

Where there is bad apples, I tend not to trust any, as the cuntstable or orificer in attendance who is to know what  side  they come from, are they a pig or a perfect example of law enforcement, no one knows until such a time  their prescence is felt.

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

In that case it wouldn't be used at all, except perhaps as a prop in some sort of drinking game...

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

So we know that there was that cop that couldn't tell his gun from a tazer. I think this opens the discussion of the use of them, and whether or not we should be allowing these weapons to take the place of other law enforcement methods....

Now, I know a lot of people who post here have no use for Amnesty International, nonetheless, they are a reputable site for giving correct information, although their conclusions based upon the statistics is debatable, their information is reliable itself...

Here are some facts from their site

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Since June 2001, more than 351 individuals in the United States have died after being shocked by police Tasers. Most of those individuals were not carrying a weapon. Amnesty International is concerned that Tasers are being used as tools of routine force -- rather than as an alternative to firearms.

Medical studies so far on the effects of Tasers have either been limited in scope or unduly influenced by the weapons' primary manufacturer. No study has adequately examined the impact of Tasers on potentially at-risk individuals -- people who have medical conditions, take prescription medications, are mentally ill or are under the influence of narcotics. Rigorous, independent, impartial study of their use and effects is urgently needed to determine what role Tasers may have played in the 351 deaths and to determine appropriate guidelines for future Taser use.

Given the unresolved safety concerns, Amnesty International recommends that police departments either suspend the use of Tasers and stun guns pending further safety research or limit their use to situations where officers would otherwise be justified in resorting to firearms.

I underlined my concern with the use of tazers, that instead of saving lives when an officer would ordinarily use a firearm, they are used for more than that. Some will say that it is better than being beaten with a baton, but I have to question if they would feel this way if their unarmed loved one was subdued in such a manner, with the result being death. Not to mention tazing is a form of electrical shock, and extremely painful...

Edited to add this link

http://www.amnestyusa.org/us-human-rights/taser-abuse/page.do?id=1021202