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RE: Supreme Court Justice Thomas Must Quit....or - 7/10/2010 3:08:12 PM   
pahunkboy


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Wait a minute. How did we go from there can be a conflict- to this is not a conflict?

It should be pretty straight forward.

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RE: Supreme Court Justice Thomas Must Quit....or - 7/10/2010 3:09:35 PM   
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Sorry bub.Reading lessons aren`t free.Pony up or fuck off.


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RE: Supreme Court Justice Thomas Must Quit....or - 7/10/2010 3:12:25 PM   
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http://www.wibw.com/nationalnews/headlines/79346147.html


of note here.

The political and financial stakes are enormous - from business groups dueling with trial lawyers over multi-billion-dollar punitive damage awards, to ideological groups sparring over abortion and gay marriage. With civil and criminal court dockets nationwide growing at a record pace, judges increasingly are taking on contentious social and business issues.

"Studies show that roughly 70 percent of the public believe judges are influenced by campaign contributions, and more than one quarter of judges agree," O'Connor told CNN. "This is alarming because the legitimacy of the judiciary rests entirely on its promise to be fair and impartial. A judge's sole constituency should be the law. If the public loses faith in that impartiality, then there is no reason to prefer the judge's interpretation of the law to the opinions of the real politicians representing the electorate."

O'Connor also noted the U.S. alone in the world elects its judges through popular elections.

Reform advocates say judicial independence only comes with public confidence in the system.

"People don't like the notion of cash in the courtroom, any whiff of any expectation that judges can be be bought is just not acceptable in our
country," said Kourlis. "People understand how important it is to have an impartial judge. From your own personal perspective/snip

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RE: Supreme Court Justice Thomas Must Quit....or - 7/10/2010 3:15:54 PM   
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Ceaser's wife and all that.......just sayin.

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RE: Supreme Court Justice Thomas Must Quit....or - 7/10/2010 3:27:26 PM   
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Don't get me wrong. I really, REALLY wish he would quit. But I don't think this is enough to make it happen. His wife is entitled to engage in politics if she wants to. She is allowed to be in political parties and be as conservative as her heart leads her to be.  (yuck! did I jsut say that!)  And there is no evidence that Justice Thomas is steering this, profiting from it or being influenced by it. As it goes, he is about as conservative as you can get anyway. What conservative would need to influence him?

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RE: Supreme Court Justice Thomas Must Quit....or - 7/10/2010 3:36:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

http://www.wibw.com/nationalnews/headlines/79346147.html


of note here.

The political and financial stakes are enormous - from business groups dueling with trial lawyers over multi-billion-dollar punitive damage awards, to ideological groups sparring over abortion and gay marriage. With civil and criminal court dockets nationwide growing at a record pace, judges increasingly are taking on contentious social and business issues.

"Studies show that roughly 70 percent of the public believe judges are influenced by campaign contributions, and more than one quarter of judges agree," O'Connor told CNN. "This is alarming because the legitimacy of the judiciary rests entirely on its promise to be fair and impartial. A judge's sole constituency should be the law. If the public loses faith in that impartiality, then there is no reason to prefer the judge's interpretation of the law to the opinions of the real politicians representing the electorate."

O'Connor also noted the U.S. alone in the world elects its judges through popular elections.

Reform advocates say judicial independence only comes with public confidence in the system.

"People don't like the notion of cash in the courtroom, any whiff of any expectation that judges can be be bought is just not acceptable in our
country," said Kourlis. "People understand how important it is to have an impartial judge. From your own personal perspective/snip


whats of noe is that it has absolutely no relevance to the topic

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RE: Supreme Court Justice Thomas Must Quit....or - 7/10/2010 3:39:05 PM   
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Then I guess I cant marry a judge then- can I? HA

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RE: Supreme Court Justice Thomas Must Quit....or - 7/10/2010 3:41:12 PM   
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quote:

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Then I guess I cant marry a judge then- can I? HA


Just because no one intelligent enough to get through law school would give you a second look is no obstacle, is it?

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RE: Supreme Court Justice Thomas Must Quit....or - 7/10/2010 3:42:28 PM   
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quote:

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Is Conyers a sitting judge?

The law is very clear on this.

Judges must not only avoid conflicts of interest but also the appearance of a conflict of interest.

We`ll see how it plays out.Won`t we?


So must Congressmen

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RE: Supreme Court Justice Thomas Must Quit....or - 7/10/2010 3:43:17 PM   
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WHose law big guy?


You flatter yourself.

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RE: Supreme Court Justice Thomas Must Quit....or - 7/10/2010 3:44:29 PM   
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quote:

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WHose law big guy?





United States law.

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RE: Supreme Court Justice Thomas Must Quit....or - 7/10/2010 3:49:07 PM   
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True. I am not a legal scholar.


But if this is a conflict- and most likely it is- it will need to be resolved. That much is not negotiable.

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RE: Supreme Court Justice Thomas Must Quit....or - 7/10/2010 3:51:41 PM   
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True. I am not a legal scholar.


But if this is a conflict- and most likely it is- it will need to be resolved. That much is not negotiable.


Change it to "and most likely isnt" and youre spot on.

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RE: Supreme Court Justice Thomas Must Quit....or - 7/10/2010 3:54:10 PM   
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Lets say that you are correct- see my post with the link.

This means that even if the perception is monied that the impact wont be a good one.

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RE: Supreme Court Justice Thomas Must Quit....or - 7/10/2010 3:55:22 PM   
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Lets say that you are correct- see my post with the link.

This means that even if the perception is monied that the impact wont be a good one.


There will be no impact, good or bad, except in your mind.

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RE: Supreme Court Justice Thomas Must Quit....or - 7/10/2010 3:56:36 PM   
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Then why do we have 2 pages already on this non-topic?

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RE: Supreme Court Justice Thomas Must Quit....or - 7/10/2010 3:58:17 PM   
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Then why do we have 2 pages already on this non-topic?


Because its so enjoyable to destroy your fantasies.

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RE: Supreme Court Justice Thomas Must Quit....or - 7/10/2010 3:58:57 PM   
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RE: Supreme Court Justice Thomas Must Quit....or - 7/10/2010 4:00:35 PM   
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"O'Connor also noted the U.S. alone in the world elects its judges through popular elections."

Wait what?

Okay, I googled it.

Perhaps one day I'll stop finding new and interesting ways in which the us is fucked up, but it isn't looking likely.

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RE: Supreme Court Justice Thomas Must Quit....or - 7/10/2010 4:35:58 PM   
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Thomas has walked all over the canon of ethics repeatedly over the years. If he doesn't eventually get impeached or resign in disgrace I'll be shocked.

No one should expect him to recuse himself on anything no matter the appearance of conflict.

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