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My View: Men have been programmed to worship women

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RE: My View: Men have been programmed to worship women - 7/11/2010 3:23:54 PM

dbloomer

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Most men lack the leadership skills to direct meaningful relationships with women, because of the absence of respectable male role models in the form of fathers and figures in mainstream media.

If you feel you've been programmed to worship women it is more likely that you are simply posessed by your desire for beautiful women and lack the capacity to satisfy your desire by leading, so you feel inclined to "follow" ("worship") women not knowing what else to do.

< Message edited by dbloomer -- 7/11/2010 3:28:11 PM >

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RE: My View: Men have been programmed to worship women - 7/11/2010 3:25:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan

I think you took a BOLD choice for your first post... welcome to the Boards and this will soon be placed in Polls & Random Stupidity... there are no Polls anywhere else on the board but in there.

To answer your question I think you see what you wanna see... I can't even answer the question with the options you give because I think it all depends on how you are actually raised.

I was raised to RESPECT women not WORSHIP them .....

BIG DIFFERENCE

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ORIGINAL: SomoneReal

Every TV show depicts at least 1 guy who turns into a quivering pussy when an attractive woman gives him the slightest attention.

To SR,

I voted 'yes' and 'no' in your poll, I should say. I'm one of those who you might call passionately ambivalent on this subject.

No, I don't think so. I think the truth is we're brought up with a schizoid view of women.    In every TV show that depicts a guy who turns into a quivering pussy when an attractive woman gives him attention, there'll be at least ten women who 'don't exist' because they're not attractive enough.

For every Goddess, there are ten dumpy old ladies with grey hair cleaning the floors . . . .

I use 'schizoid' deliberately. The great majority of women seem literally to disappear from the consciousnesses of certain people who've turned up here at CM - especially particular male submissives, I have to say.  The only women that they 'see' are those with perfect faces, legs and boobs (plastic-enhanced or not - they don't usually seem to care about that).

It's a fucker, being a woman. Tell her that she's a "Goddess" - and all she'll think is, 'Ah, right. A string of miserable, trivial, superficial, soul-destroying standards that I have to keep to - otherwise I'll just become one of the women-who-don't-exist to him'.

Anyway, before I start rambling on forever: I don't, in general, like the all-too-common habit here at CM of pouncing on a new questioner and ripping him to shreds with scathing analyses of his character based on the question he's asked. Also, you look startlingly like an old friend of mine so I can't help but instantly to like you. (Strange how that works!)   But, but, but . . . word to the wise - please, please don't make the mistake of thinking that you're going to make friends of the women here by telling them that they're Goddesses. They'll generally only hate you for it.

In rapturous moments, I'll look at a woman's face - a special woman's face - and feel her to be a Goddess. What's more she'll be the only Goddess - everything that's best about Nature, the most perfect thing that the universe ever created. But, half an hour later, she'll probably fart.

They all do fart, you know, eventually.

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RE: My View: Men have been programmed to worship women - 7/11/2010 3:25:28 PM

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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

See, I'm opposite from teh bunny. I don't mind being worshipped for nothing more than my charm and femininity. Worship away! (oh, and don't forget the presents!)

Your willingness to exploit dysfunctional male behavior is nothing to be proud of.

< Message edited by dbloomer -- 7/11/2010 3:27:27 PM >

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RE: My View: Men have been programmed to worship women - 7/11/2010 3:28:25 PM

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

For every Goddess, there are ten dumpy old ladies with grey hair cleaning the floors . . . .

An excellent point. If men were being taught to worship women, there would be less pressure on women to maintain perfect bodies, fewer "No Fat Chicks" t-shirts and the whole "Ooops, she's 30, now she's past her prime" thing would be gone.

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RE: My View: Men have been programmed to worship women - 7/11/2010 3:30:01 PM

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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~fast reply~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Wow, I wonder if we are watching the same cartoons, cuz this is where I see what the OP is talking about. My son went from drooling over Sailor Moon (hot blonde cartoon girl who transforms into an older girl who promises to PUNISH bad guys) to watching The Winks Club and Magical Do Re Mi. He also drools over Lynda Carter when she plays Wonder Woman.

It does seem that the boys are being encouraged into responding to female authority...hm...yes, my son is probably doomed. Even all the M.A.S.H., Die Hard, and hundreds of hours of manly movies cannot undo the corruptive influence that cartoons have. Poor Whylie Coyote didn't stand a chance...yanno that saucy lil RoadRunner had to be a girl...a very sadistic girl. Beep! Beep!

My neighbor is vanilla, watches The Winks Club...and his wife wears the pants in the family. Maybe before dating men, we need to ask what they're watching on tv.

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RE: My View: Men have been programmed to worship women - 7/11/2010 3:32:01 PM

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*edited cause I realized I just don't want to get into a sexism debate*

I'm gonna go look at boobies now.

< Message edited by AquaticSub -- 7/11/2010 3:45:19 PM >

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RE: My View: Men have been programmed to worship women - 7/11/2010 3:38:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: gungadin09

Other examples of being treated differently because i'm a woman would be:
1. my relationship with my father would have been different if i was male; i think he would have been much harder on me, but we would have been closer

2. personally, i hate being out on a date, and the guy pays; that has always made me feel a little weird

3. flowers and candy on Valentines Day. No offense, DesFIP, but i think you may have just proven the OP's point. i have never sent flowers and candy to any boyfriend of mine.

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RE: My View: Men have been programmed to worship women - 7/11/2010 3:39:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: SomoneReal

Turn off the TV, shut the book, and let me know what you think.

No; if anything, programing is toward dishonoring females. I suspect it could be the results of some adult males being jealous of the effects mothering can have on their ‘mini-me’, and possibly embarrassment from not being able to control their own sexual urges.

The fact that females have learned how to use these weaknesses in their favor and some choose to use it; par.

Just one more way to divide humanity.

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RE: My View: Men have been programmed to worship women - 7/11/2010 3:40:40 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: CynthiaWVirginia

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~fast reply~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Wow, I wonder if we are watching the same cartoons, cuz this is where I see what the OP is talking about. My son went from drooling over Sailor Moon (hot blonde cartoon girl who transforms into an older girl who promises to PUNISH bad guys) to watching The Winks Club and Magical Do Re Mi. He also drools over Lynda Carter when she plays Wonder Woman.

It does seem that the boys are being encouraged into responding to female authority...hm...yes, my son is probably doomed. Even all the M.A.S.H., Die Hard, and hundreds of hours of manly movies cannot undo the corruptive influence that cartoons have. Poor Whylie Coyote didn't stand a chance...yanno that saucy lil RoadRunner had to be a girl...a very sadistic girl. Beep! Beep!

My neighbor is vanilla, watches The Winks Club...and his wife wears the pants in the family. Maybe before dating men, we need to ask what they're watching on tv.

The bottom line is that men don't really have anywhere to turn to learn the proper leadership skills. Yes, there is feminine content on TV like Sailor Moon, and there is also masculine content. Neither teach valuable lessons, they are simply entertainment.

It's interesting in this day of information technology, that the most basic knowledge, what it takes to be a man, and a woman, is lost on so many people.

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RE: My View: Men have been programmed to worship women - 7/11/2010 3:40:54 PM

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ORIGINAL: SomoneReal

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ORIGINAL: Lucienne

My suspicion: you are frustrated by your inability to have a satisfying relationship with a woman.

My suspicion is that you didn't take a second to think about what I wrote before you replied.

I think you are both right.

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RE: My View: Men have been programmed to worship women - 7/11/2010 3:44:16 PM

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*edited cause I realized I just don't want to get into a sexism debate*

Look, monkeys!

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RE: My View: Men have been programmed to worship women - 7/11/2010 4:04:58 PM

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Now I'll be more serious instead of playful. I had to vote that I disagree.

I don't see anything worshipful about wanting to boink a hot young thing. I know, cuz I was once a hot young thing, and I felt far from worshipped.

No flowers, no candy, no gentlemanly ways...just cat calls, gopings, frottering, and generally treating me like I existed to spread my legs wide for all mankind...and I couldn't even walk down the street or go to the grocery store without some guy acting like I was fresh meat.

Can you ever guess how dehumanizing it is to go through puberty and suddenly have males cease speaking to your face? Eyes and attention were focused on bewbage...and no, I did not feel like they had been programmed to behave so disrespectfully...what female in her right mind would have programmed men to treat her as a soulless object without feelings? Just...pussy.

I put on some poundage, and got left alone. Became a person again instead of tits and ass. It's a shame that I never got to enjoy my own body because I was too busy trying to keep it hidden, so I didn't "provoke" unwanted male attention.

If you don't want to be controlled by women...find a submissive, not a Domme. I'll be watching my tv, reading my book, or playing my Pokemon games. Yes, I'm 46 and prefer the company of my "Pokemon" to most men I've met, because most men in my area are disrespectful asshats.

Don't even get me started on how husbands of my friends have tried to "worship" me when I was vanilla. Yeah, right. I couldn't tell the wives about being propostioned because it would only hurt them to know what "worshipful, programmed" men they had married.

Women would NEVER program men to behave this way, therefore...I really can't see the point you're trying to make.

Unless it's about those hotttttt babes in cartoons. Maybe. Or maybe the men who tend to feel submissive around women just naturally find this stuff eye candy, not the T and A part, though their youthful beauty has something to do with it, but because of the dominance/submission to trustworthy females comes into it and resonates in their souls.

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RE: My View: Men have been programmed to worship women - 7/11/2010 4:05:16 PM

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i still don't know whether men have been programmed to "worship" women. i do think that men and women are treated differently by society. In the end, i'm not sure who comes out ahead. i will say this: if men really do "worship" women, then i would gladly volunteer to be worshipped less if it meant i would be taken seriously more. Even if it meant giving up all the flowers and candy.

P.S.- The OP said men "worship" women. He did not say that men respect them, or take them seriously. In fact, i think of those two ideas as being opposites, worshipping women, and taking them seriously.

pam

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RE: My View: Men have been programmed to worship women - 7/11/2010 4:50:47 PM

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quote:

shut the book

What does Stilwell & the American Experience in China have to do with what you posted???

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RE: My View: Men have been programmed to worship women - 7/11/2010 7:38:36 PM

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I have gotten him candy prior to being diagnosed diabetic. That sugar free stuff is crap.
But he disapproves of cut flowers. I've gotten them once in 8 years. Usually it's a flowering plant.

And I'm still waiting for my son to clean up his room.

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RE: My View: Men have been programmed to worship women - 7/11/2010 7:46:10 PM

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I don't think I can post on this thread until my current FBI investigation is complete.

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RE: My View: Men have been programmed to worship women - 7/11/2010 8:01:13 PM

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Is "worshipping" someone different than objectifying them? Because, i think it's the same thing, really. i don't want to be "worshipped". i would rather be respected. Even if it means i have to open doors for myself.

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RE: My View: Men have been programmed to worship women - 7/11/2010 8:06:40 PM

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

I don't think I can post on this thread until my current FBI investigation is complete.

You wont pass.

Not with those shoes!!!

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RE: My View: Men have been programmed to worship women - 7/11/2010 8:07:57 PM

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I like being objectified by someone I love.

Sometimes I like being objectified by just men in general, when feeling very slutty.

I like being worshipped by someone I love.

Sometimes I like both at the same time.

I expect to be respected by the one doing the objectifying and worshipping.

This can all be done quite fluidly if you possess self awareness and stop getting hung up on semantics.

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RE: My View: Men have been programmed to worship women - 7/11/2010 8:24:09 PM

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What I've observed is that many straight men fantasize having a woman that other men will desire and worship. The trophy thing. Risking sounding cynical, most often men resent needing women. Therefore resenting the women they need.

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