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porcelaine -> RE: Money makes the world go round (7/12/2010 10:10:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AAkasha A lot of subs, even if they aren't looking for a 'tribute' femdom, get impatient. They are discouraged about the time and processes involved in 'traditional courting' and just instead ante up and fork over the tribute in interactions that "seem" like traditional courting but aren't (she pretends like she's genuinely interested, but she's not). AAkasha, I agree and believe we find it in both sexes on the submissive end. The subject came up under a different guise not that long ago. We discussed the realities of individuals knowing whether they're sincerely interested in the other person or merely killing time until a better prospect arrives. I believe if he doesn't strike your fancy you're better off cavorting with someone that does. I do feel there's something amiss in terms of cadence and the idea the everything must occur instantaneously. ~porcelaine

lobodomslavery -> RE: Money makes the world go round (7/12/2010 10:13:12 AM)
I agree too. Subs shouldnt fork over cash in the expectation of gaining a relationship.These cash dommes are just that. They are purely in it for the money and nothing else. They do not care for the sub nor do they wish to befriend anyone, just take their cash. i learned this the hard way. i tributed a Domme and when i could no longer tribute Her , She did not contact me again kevin

mastertizzi -> RE: Money makes the world go round (7/12/2010 5:51:48 PM)
actually (granted that i am a male dom/master) i find the following to be valid: (im using a list, i like lists) 1. in cases the dom may have an interest in the power attribute that is associated with the role. if a sub is paying its dom for service its basically like a feeling of money equals how dedicated to the dom the sub is think of it this way, a sub who gives its dom only a few dollars may make the dom feel as a they are in the 5$ prostitute range, while a sub who constantly gives expensive gifts and large amounts of money, makes the dom feel as they are of high class. the end result is that where the sub stays at the same level, the dom's power level varies. 2. there is also the dedication factor. its not about that the sub can't get the money to please the dom. in such that is actually insulting toward the dom. (as in you can't give me what i desire? so i am not worth it to you?) if the sub is dedicated to pleasing the dom, then it will anything to give it what it requires. basically in short its not actually about the money...directly its about dedication and making the dom feel a certain sense of worth (well this is how it works for me) there is also the kink of where the dom may desire to feel like a prostitute. there is no rule that states that a dom cannot be a dom and be degraded/humiliated/etc. the dom's role is to control the sub, where the sub's rule is to please the dom. (without going too deep into the depths) but this is different than switch. as long as the dom is controlling the sub, in short the dom is still dom. (just some things to think about, i don't see this discussed too much, and i feel that it in some ways plays a role as per this subject)

LadyPact -> RE: Money makes the world go round (7/12/2010 6:06:39 PM)
Do you describe all submissives as "it"?

jujubeeMB -> RE: Money makes the world go round (7/12/2010 6:18:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact Do you describe all submissives as "it"? Thank you. That startled me as well...

TheHeretic -> RE: Money makes the world go round (7/12/2010 6:34:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: boundinside Certain people, like myself, simply do not have the means to support Your financial interests. So get off your ass and get a better paying job. Or get a second job that also pays crap. Or tell yourself that getting your nipples twisted is just going to have to wait until after you finish school or get the student loan paid down and re-fied. There is good advice in this thread already if you want to find Mistress Right, but if your needs and commitment level are geared to Mistress Right Now, take mine.

porcelaine -> RE: Money makes the world go round (7/12/2010 6:57:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mastertizzi basically in short its not actually about the money...directly its about dedication and making the dom feel a certain sense of worth (well this is how it works for me) I hear that line from men espousing financial slavery from female slaves. It's not really about the money. It's about you handing over your cash and assets to me cause I'm the owner and I know best. Nevermind the fact I've got more liabilities than you have pieces of paper to record them on. We're in this together. Dedicated. You're mine. And all that jazz. If mister domly one wasn't in possession of that sense of worth my money won't change that. But it might allow him to go shopping at my expense. There's a big difference in being someone's whore by choice and paying for that right. I figure the folks that can get the former for free walk away with their bank balance intact. ~porcelaine

SomethingCatchy -> RE: Money makes the world go round (7/13/2010 5:46:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: porcelaine quote: ORIGINAL: mastertizzi basically in short its not actually about the money...directly its about dedication and making the dom feel a certain sense of worth (well this is how it works for me) I hear that line from men espousing financial slavery from female slaves. It's not really about the money. It's about you handing over your cash and assets to me cause I'm the owner and I know best. Nevermind the fact I've got more liabilities than you have pieces of paper to record them on. We're in this together. Dedicated. You're mine. And all that jazz. If mister domly one wasn't in possession of that sense of worth my money won't change that. But it might allow him to go shopping at my expense. There's a big difference in being someone's whore by choice and paying for that right. I figure the folks that can get the former for free walk away with their bank balance intact. ~porcelaine You have to understand that there are a lot of materialistic people out in the world. They were raised that way, either by their parents or pop culture. If surrounding themselves with people who will give them things just to make them feel special is what they need, we both know they need some professional help, since it's not healthy, but trying to talk sense to them before they want to hear it is just a waste of good energy. Go ride your bike! Grow a garden! Just don't expect them to listen to you anytime soon.

WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Money makes the world go round (7/13/2010 7:49:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: porcelaine quote: ORIGINAL: mastertizzi basically in short its not actually about the money...directly its about dedication and making the dom feel a certain sense of worth (well this is how it works for me) I hear that line from men espousing financial slavery from female slaves. It's not really about the money. It's about you handing over your cash and assets to me cause I'm the owner and I know best. Nevermind the fact I've got more liabilities than you have pieces of paper to record them on. We're in this together. Dedicated. You're mine. And all that jazz. If mister domly one wasn't in possession of that sense of worth my money won't change that. ...~porcelaine Thank you. I wanted to say something in response to mastertizzi, but for some reason I was having difficulty organizing my thoughts. There's more I'd like to debate, but pfft. My [sm=2cents.gif] might devalue the OP, and send him into an emotional recession.

OsideGirl -> RE: Money makes the world go round (7/13/2010 7:50:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: boundinside You willing to provide contribution to Female Dominants in order to fulfill your sexual fantasies? This is the key comment right here. BTW, I can kind of understand. If you're going to come to a "D" with a laundry list of what you want done, how you want it done and what she's wearing....you should contribute the final picture.

porcelaine -> RE: Money makes the world go round (7/13/2010 8:16:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SomethingCatchy You have to understand that there are a lot of materialistic people out in the world. They were raised that way, either by their parents or pop culture. If surrounding themselves with people who will give them things just to make them feel special is what they need, we both know they need some professional help, since it's not healthy, but trying to talk sense to them before they want to hear it is just a waste of good energy. Go ride your bike! Grow a garden! Just don't expect them to listen to you anytime soon. SomethingCatchy, Why would I invest energy in trying to convince a gentleman that his moral fiber doesn't match my own? We're not compatible and there's little reason to discuss anything further. If he's seeking someone to supplement his lifestyle that's his right. But that wouldn't include yours truly nor do I need to educate him on my opinion regarding his behavior. No suffices quite well. quote: ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance Thank you. I wanted to say something in response to mastertizzi, but for some reason I was having difficulty organizing my thoughts. There's more I'd like to debate, but pfft. My might devalue the OP, and send him into an emotional recession. WinsomeDefiance, Thank you for the compliment. I'm willing to bet he'd accept your donation in kind if you're willing to share a few coins. Every little bit helps. [:D] ~porcelaine

MistressRoux -> RE: Money makes the world go round (7/13/2010 8:53:51 AM)
I've considered going the monetary tribute route and even the Pro-Domme route. Actually, I'm still seriously considering the latter. Reflecting on My experiences in the last year, I feel like I'm basically a Pro who forgot to collect. As far as the lifestyle part goes, I would never even think to ask for a monetary tribute. I'm not going to judge anyone who does any of this differently.

MissAsylum -> RE: Money makes the world go round (7/13/2010 9:54:24 AM)
as somebody else suggested on this thread, you have to look at the lifestyle domme from a normal, everyday woman aspect. paying for dates is stardard practice, but what else can you offer? can you give her your time? can you give her dedication and loyalty? a person must invest themselves in the relationship and money is a very minor role. i have no problem paying for dates every so often if my partner hasnt gotten his pay cheque yet. I don't mind because he gives me so much more that the money isnt a factor. and from a prodomme/lifestyle perspective, if somebody presents me with a mile long list of what they want and its all kink related and they have expressed no interest in me as a woman, oh yes, they will be paying for my time. if they really try to understand what makes me tick and try to know me as a human being who just happens to have an interest in kink, i will gladly get to know them and give them my time in a non-financial matter. its all about what makes you can do to enhance her life.

txurinal -> RE: Money makes the world go round (7/17/2010 7:29:50 AM)
MASTERTIZZI has hit the nail on the head. Relatinships are based on many factors and some may be financial. As a slave, when owned it contributed financially to the household by offering tribute to the MASTERS

DarlingSavage -> RE: Money makes the world go round (7/17/2010 10:56:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BentUnit I think you are begging for trouble here if you are are going to keep using the generic "YOU" to lump all Dommes in the same category. To point out the obvious.... You keep looking until you find someone who's desires and expectations dovetail with your own. Whinging about it won't get you any traction and will only alienate you with the very people you are trying to attract. You so smaht!

DarlingSavage -> RE: Money makes the world go round (7/17/2010 11:01:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mastertizzi actually (granted that i am a male dom/master) i find the following to be valid: (im using a list, i like lists) 1. in cases the dom may have an interest in the power attribute that is associated with the role. if a sub is paying its dom for service its basically like a feeling of money equals how dedicated to the dom the sub is think of it this way, a sub who gives its dom only a few dollars may make the dom feel as a they are in the 5$ prostitute range, while a sub who constantly gives expensive gifts and large amounts of money, makes the dom feel as they are of high class. the end result is that where the sub stays at the same level, the dom's power level varies. 2. there is also the dedication factor. its not about that the sub can't get the money to please the dom. in such that is actually insulting toward the dom. (as in you can't give me what i desire? so i am not worth it to you?) if the sub is dedicated to pleasing the dom, then it will anything to give it what it requires. basically in short its not actually about the money...directly its about dedication and making the dom feel a certain sense of worth (well this is how it works for me) there is also the kink of where the dom may desire to feel like a prostitute. there is no rule that states that a dom cannot be a dom and be degraded/humiliated/etc. the dom's role is to control the sub, where the sub's rule is to please the dom. (without going too deep into the depths) but this is different than switch. as long as the dom is controlling the sub, in short the dom is still dom. (just some things to think about, i don't see this discussed too much, and i feel that it in some ways plays a role as per this subject) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Ok, now that I'm done laughing my ass off at you, I don't want a dom that relies on me for his sense of self worth. Secondly, looks like somebody thinks he might be able to make some money on the side here. AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ETA: yeah, I'd hide that profile after all that, too!

jujubeeMB -> RE: Money makes the world go round (7/17/2010 11:12:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery As is greed. One of the reasons why the economy has collapsed is the fact that we have been paying for services that are way over valued and we will be paying for them for the rest of our working lives. Its similar with the pro Domme. $200 per hour is way over the top for the current economic climate. Its extortionate, plain and simple I missed this before, and just wanted to say: then don't pay for it. No one owes you domination at a decent price - the women charging that much are doing so for several reasons, and they get to. I cannot understand the huge issue people have with Dommes who charge. How does it have anything to do with you, if you don't want to pay or can't afford it? It's an elite service, clearly, and I'm sorry you don't like it, but no one owes you anything. Just focus on impressing the Dommes that don't charge.

submissivemale22 -> RE: Money makes the world go round (7/17/2010 11:13:56 AM)
like warren g said, "money makes the world go round, and the panties drop." (i aint in love though- i don't need the pressure... i just wanna dig it like im diggen for treasure)

ResidentSadist -> RE: Money makes the world go round (7/17/2010 11:53:00 AM)
There are all kinds ... including financially motivated submission. Look around, you will find both pay 4 play and play 4 play types in all areas of relationships, BDSM or otherwise.

diamonddiego -> RE: Money makes the world go round (7/17/2010 2:51:58 PM)
I am not going to touch on the pro-whores who infest this site with their supposed services. My inflection and tone speaks for itself in that matter. But I will comment about the supposed lifestyle 'financial' dommes we seem to be getting more and more of. In 12 years time I have seen more parasites like that than I can even begin to count. I see them coming out of the woodwork at events, at parties, at munches and of course online. And without exception, each and every single one of them has been a failure in life. Each of them cannot pay their own bills or put food on their table with a meaningful job. A large percentage of them are welfare recipiants living off of my taxes, living off of foodstamps and living in low-income federal or state housing programs. The vast bulk of them are generally under-educated, lazy, socially unacceptable, morally and ethically repugnant and in general horrible people. And if you waste the time to get to know them, you soon see the sheer volume of mental illnesses a lot of them have. But what do I know? It just seems that a financially successful woman does not demand financial servitude from her submissives or slaves. But those you see who do this meet the above mentioned criteria 9 out of 10 times. So everytime I get approached by one of these supposed dominants, it gives me a great laugh to mock them and walk away shaking my head. Why should I give even more money to a welfare recipiant who cannot even control her own life and who is living off of my taxes already? THAT makes absolutely no sense to me and financially makes even less sense. You might as well piss into the wind and expect not to get sprayed.

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