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tazzygirl -> World Cup feels al-Qaida's wrath (7/12/2010 2:45:31 PM)
KAMPALA, Uganda -- East Africa saw the emergence of a new international terrorist group Monday, as Somalia's most dangerous al-Qaida-linked militia claimed responsibility for the twin bombings in Uganda that killed 74 people during the World Cup. The claim by al-Shabab, whose fighters are trained by militant veterans of the conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq, resets the security equation in East Africa and has broader implications worldwide. The group in the past has recruited Somali-Americans to carry out suicide bombings in Mogadishu. Al-Shabab, an ultraconservative Islamic group that has drawn comparisons to the Taliban, has long threatened to attack outside of Somalia's borders, but the bombings late Sunday are the first time the group has done so. "We warned Uganda not to deploy troops to Somalia; they ignored us," said Sheik Ali Mohamud Rage, al-Shabab's spokesman. "We warned them to stop massacring our people, and they ignored that. The explosions in Kampala were only a minor message to them. ... We will target them everywhere if Uganda does not withdraw from our land." Rage said a second country with peacekeeping forces in Mogadishu - Burundi - could soon face attacks. Fighting in Mogadishu between militants and Somali troops or African Union peacekeepers frequently kills civilians. The attacks outside Somalia represent a dangerous new step in al-Shabab's increasingly militant path and raises questions about its future plans. The U.S. State Department has declared al-Shabab a terrorist organization. Other neighboring nations - Kenya, Djibouti and Ethiopia, along with Burundi - may also face new attacks, analysts say. Despite the threats, the army spokesman for Uganda - an overwhelmingly Christian nation - said the county would not withdraw. "Al-Shabab is the reason why we should stay in Somalia. We have to pacify Somalia," said Lt. Col. Felix Kulaigye. In Washington, President Barack Obama spoke with Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni on Monday to express his condolences for the loss of life in the bombings. Obama offered to provide any support or assistance needed in Uganda, said White House spokesman Robert Gibbs. http://www.seattlepi.com/national/1105ap_af_uganda_explosions.html?source=rss

pahunkboy -> RE: World Cup feels al-Qaida's wrath (7/12/2010 2:47:41 PM)
6 of the injured were from a church near my place.

servantforuse -> RE: World Cup feels al-Qaida's wrath (7/12/2010 3:27:32 PM)
We have to go where ever they are and kill every terrorist . The civilized world has to win this war on terror.

SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: World Cup feels al-Qaida's wrath (7/12/2010 3:29:03 PM)
The world cup was held in South Africa, was there another world cup?

tazzygirl -> RE: World Cup feels al-Qaida's wrath (7/12/2010 3:42:54 PM)
If you had read the full article, you would not have asked that question.

Politesub53 -> RE: World Cup feels al-Qaida's wrath (7/12/2010 3:55:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl If you had read the full article, you would not have asked that question. Maybe, but the target was Uganda, not the world cup as implied by the thread title.

tazzygirl -> RE: World Cup feels al-Qaida's wrath (7/12/2010 4:01:46 PM)
The Cup was the stage. Two attacks against people watching. Of course they knew they would get international coverage. The death toll in Sunday's twin blasts rose to 74 on Monday, Ugandan officials said. Investigators combed through the blast sites, one an outdoor screening at a rugby club and the other an Ethiopian restaurant - a nation despised by al-Shabab. Investigators found the severed head of what appeared to be a Somali suicide bomber. A California-based aid group said one of its American workers was among the dead. Officials said 60 Ugandans, nine Ethiopians or Eritreans, one Irish woman, and one Asian were also among those killed. Two people couldn't be identified. Eighty-five people were wounded. At least three of the wounded were in a church group from Pennsylvania who went to an Ethiopian restaurant in Kampala early to get good seats for the game, said Lori Ssebulime, an American who married a Ugandan. Three Ugandans in the group were killed when a blast erupted. One of the wounded was 16-year-old American Emily Kerstetter. "Emily was rolling around in a pool of blood screaming," said Ssebulime, who has helped bring in U.S. church groups since 2004. "Five minutes before it went off, Emily said she was going to cry so hard because she didn't want to leave. She wanted to stay the rest of the summer here." Blood and pieces of flesh littered the floor among overturned chairs at the scenes of the blasts, which went off as people watched the game between Spain and the Netherlands. Same source, for those who dont bother to read but feel a need to jump in head first anyways.

SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: World Cup feels al-Qaida's wrath (7/12/2010 4:04:57 PM)
So if a bomb goes off in my house while I'm watching the world cup it's terrorists targeting the world cup??? Wouldn't it be logical to target the world cup by let’s say ermm targeting the host nation? I read the article did you read the line that questioned whether or not it was related to the world cup? My view is don’t conclude in your headline that which you aren’t prepared to conclude in your main text. It didn't occur to the journalist it may be more to do with the troop deployments i.e. why not put that in the headline?

tazzygirl -> RE: World Cup feels al-Qaida's wrath (7/12/2010 4:08:40 PM)
Because they want attention.. gesh... Two attacks, both venues featuring the World Cup, both claimed by the same group... that was the intentional path of coverage.

Lucylastic -> RE: World Cup feels al-Qaida's wrath (7/12/2010 4:13:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse We have to go where ever they are and kill every terrorist . The civilized world has to win this war on terror. There is neither the money or manpower or intelligence for that to happen, EVER, simple, fullstop, end of bloody story, period. to have that expectation you have to be on some serious happy pills or seriously delusional Ill be kind and give you the benefit of doubt and go the pill route...

LadyEllen -> RE: World Cup feels al-Qaida's wrath (7/12/2010 4:13:28 PM)
The targets were chosen because they'd be packed with people watching the final, which in itself of course is a manifestation of decadent western corruption, and would serve well to send a message to both Ugandans and Ethiopians, each of whom these nutjobs are pissed at for interfering with their plans for world domination. The severed head of the suicide bomber? Stick it on a platter and send it back to 'em. Alternatively put it on a spike alongside those of any others of these nutjobs that can be caught. The latter whilst still connected to the living, breathing and sensible terrorist concerned. E

SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: World Cup feels al-Qaida's wrath (7/12/2010 4:15:38 PM)
The world cup was watched on big screens like that in many venues around the world. They target events where there are large gatherings, nothing specifically to do with the world cup it's just an opportunity. Al-Qaida's wrath doesn't extent to telling people not to watch the world cup, that's the journalists viewpoint and the official statement from the Al-Qaida mouthpiece said nothing of the world cup.

tazzygirl -> RE: World Cup feels al-Qaida's wrath (7/12/2010 4:16:53 PM)
No where in the article does it say not to watch... jesus... where are you coming up with this from?

SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: World Cup feels al-Qaida's wrath (7/12/2010 4:22:00 PM)
The headline gives the impression that Al-Qaida are anti world cup (they probably are) but who the fuck cares? The headline and the main body are alien to one another and that's what I take issue with. It sensationalises it; like it's not bad enough that people died we in the west can only care about that if it was related to our activities in some way.

Politesub53 -> RE: World Cup feels al-Qaida's wrath (7/12/2010 4:26:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl The Cup was the stage. Two attacks against people watching. Of course they knew they would get international coverage. The death toll in Sunday's twin blasts rose to 74 on Monday, Ugandan officials said. Investigators combed through the blast sites, one an outdoor screening at a rugby club and the other an Ethiopian restaurant - a nation despised by al-Shabab. Investigators found the severed head of what appeared to be a Somali suicide bomber. A California-based aid group said one of its American workers was among the dead. Officials said 60 Ugandans, nine Ethiopians or Eritreans, one Irish woman, and one Asian were also among those killed. Two people couldn't be identified. Eighty-five people were wounded. At least three of the wounded were in a church group from Pennsylvania who went to an Ethiopian restaurant in Kampala early to get good seats for the game, said Lori Ssebulime, an American who married a Ugandan. Three Ugandans in the group were killed when a blast erupted. One of the wounded was 16-year-old American Emily Kerstetter. "Emily was rolling around in a pool of blood screaming," said Ssebulime, who has helped bring in U.S. church groups since 2004. "Five minutes before it went off, Emily said she was going to cry so hard because she didn't want to leave. She wanted to stay the rest of the summer here." Blood and pieces of flesh littered the floor among overturned chairs at the scenes of the blasts, which went off as people watched the game between Spain and the Netherlands. Same source, for those who dont bother to read but feel a need to jump in head first anyways. Just because i thought your title was wrong, it doesnt mean i didnt read the post. By your logic, you could have aimed it at the world cup, America, Ethiopia, aid workers, or the church. Luckily the crowd were not watching the Simpsons, or you would have named Homer. [;)]

LadyEllen -> RE: World Cup feels al-Qaida's wrath (7/12/2010 4:26:42 PM)
derrrr, well yeah. I mean, they were mostly Africans.......... E

SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: World Cup feels al-Qaida's wrath (7/12/2010 4:31:59 PM)
Next it will be proclaimed this is why we are fighting a war in Afghanistan; to maintain out footballing rights around the world. Something us simpletons can all relate to, we obviously don't understand the right to breathe.

tazzygirl -> RE: World Cup feels al-Qaida's wrath (7/12/2010 4:32:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 Just because i thought your title was wrong, it doesnt mean i didnt read the post. By your logic, you could have aimed it at the world cup, America, Ethiopia, aid workers, or the church. Luckily the crowd were not watching the Simpsons, or you would have named Homer. [;)] And the World Trade Towers was just two buildings. They targeted two large events, both having to do with the Cup event in order to gain the media attention. The group succeeded. What is really rediculous is that 80+ people have died and you two want to argue over a damn headline.

DomKen -> RE: World Cup feels al-Qaida's wrath (7/12/2010 4:40:50 PM)
I'm supposed to believe simultaneous attacks timed to occur at the end of the cup final were not planned that way? This is an Al Qaeda group, they chose the targets and timing. They wanted to symbolically attack an event that unifies the world.

Politesub53 -> RE: World Cup feels al-Qaida's wrath (7/12/2010 4:42:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl And the World Trade Towers was just two buildings. They targeted two large events, both having to do with the Cup event in order to gain the media attention. The group succeeded. What is really rediculous is that 80+ people have died and you two want to argue over a damn headline. If you think this wouldnt have made international headlines, world cup or not, you are deluded.

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