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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

How much federal money does your favourite school district receive?

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ORIGINAL: AsmodaisSin

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

How much federal money does your favourite school district receive?

At the moment, I don't have a favorite school district.  If it were up to me, I'd move back to Texas and raise my future children where I was raised, but as of right now, this is all "pretend."

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At the center of the controversy is a desire by educators and special interest groups to begin teaching a pro-gay sex education curriculum to children as young as five years old.

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The comprehensive plan under consideration in Helena would:

1. Teach fifth graders that “sexual intercourse includes, but is not limited to vaginal, oral, or anal penetration;
2. Teach kindergarteners about “basic reproductive body parts (penis, vagina, breast, nipples, testicles, scrotum).” (ooo...teach adults how to spell kindergartners????)
   
3. Teach all grades that marriage is a “commitment by two people.”
4. Teach first graders that “human beings can love people of the same gender & people of another gender.”
5. Teach that sexual orientation refers to a “person’s physical and/or romantic attraction to an individual of the same and/or different gender.”
6. Teach sixth graders that sexual intercourse includes “using the penis, fingers, tongue or objects.”

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Parents who live in Montana, though, are adamantly opposed to the plan. Many say it’s not the school’s responsibility to teach such graphic material. Others call it a disgrace.

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“Outrage,” said Shannon Karp, of Belgrade, MT. “We are just setting children up to start having sex at an earlier age,” said the mother of 9-year-old triplets. “I think we should let our children be children. Let them be innocent and enjoy their grade school years. There will be enough pressure on them as they get older.”

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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ORIGINAL: AsmodaisSin

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

How much federal money does your favourite school district receive?

At the moment, I don't have a favorite school district.  If it were up to me, I'd move back to Texas and raise my future children where I was raised, but as of right now, this is all "pretend."

My point is this.........if there is federal monies going into a school system there should also be a federal guideline for curriculum. If that became part of the federal curriculum guideline......you very likely will have zero choice in whether or not your 5yo learns he has a penis/she has a vagina.

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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ORIGINAL: mikeyOfGeorgia

this whole thing makes me rethink my views on home schooling kids. if more people would home school, then this would not be an issue.

Yeahhhhhhhh, I am all for a lot more, poorly educated and socially inept, people walking around.

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ORIGINAL: AsmodaisSin

Private school's an option.  Home schooling is an option. 
Have you not been paying attention or do you just like like to instigate and make assumptions about people? 
Pay attention.  Please. 

I don't care that my five-year-old knows what kind of body parts they have.  Chances are, they'll know that before five.  What I do not appreciate/want/desire, is for someone else to teach MY child about sexual education.  I will find a way when the time comes to opt out of that program.  It is MY right as a parent to choose who teaches my child about those kinds of things and I should have the option, regardless of what anyone else might think, to opt out. 

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ORIGINAL: AsmodaisSin

Private school's an option.  Home schooling is an option. 
Have you not been paying attention or do you just like like to instigate and make assumptions about people? 
Pay attention.  Please. 

I don't care that my five-year-old knows what kind of body parts they have.  Chances are, they'll know that before five.  What I do not appreciate/want/desire, is for someone else to teach MY child about sexual education.  I will find a way when the time comes to opt out of that program.  It is MY right as a parent to choose who teaches my child about those kinds of things and I should have the option, regardless of what anyone else might think, to opt out. 

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: AsmodaisSin

Private school's an option.  Home schooling is an option. 
Have you not been paying attention or do you just like like to instigate and make assumptions about people? 
Pay attention.  Please. 

I don't care that my five-year-old knows what kind of body parts they have.  Chances are, they'll know that before five.  What I do not appreciate/want/desire, is for someone else to teach MY child about sexual education.  I will find a way when the time comes to opt out of that program.  It is MY right as a parent to choose who teaches my child about those kinds of things and I should have the option, regardless of what anyone else might think, to opt out. 

Those kind of things?

But you have no problem with the schools teaching your child spelling, history, or math?

It's just those kind of things.

It never fails to amaze me how so many people posting on a BDSM website are so puritanical.

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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ORIGINAL: AsmodaisSin

Private school's an option.  Home schooling is an option. 
Have you not been paying attention or do you just like like to instigate and make assumptions about people? 
Pay attention.  Please. 

I don't care that my five-year-old knows what kind of body parts they have.  Chances are, they'll know that before five.  What I do not appreciate/want/desire, is for someone else to teach MY child about sexual education.  I will find a way when the time comes to opt out of that program.  It is MY right as a parent to choose who teaches my child about those kinds of things and I should have the option, regardless of what anyone else might think, to opt out. 

I am paying attention. You are the one that is being pig headed in my mind's eye. The point I am trying to make, albeit apparently unsuccessfully with you, is that I do not see  a child learning the basics of their sexual organs and what their multitude of uses are for as being ANY different than them learning about their intestinal tract, toes, fingers, eyes, etc. None. I find the puritanical uproar sublimely hysterical.

My other point is that we have basic standardized curriculum for most all subjects, math, spelling, reading, etc.......IF this aspect of education about the human body becomes a part of that standardization, it will NOT MATTER how the child is educated.....public school, home school or some church school. There will still be standards that will have to be maintained. You cannot have a child graduate without learning how to spell, add, subtract, etc........IF this were to become part of required curriculum, they will NOT be able to graduate without it. Gotta pass the test at some point!

Let me know if you need me to clarify it anymore.

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I don't care that my five-year-old knows what kind of body parts they have. Chances are, they'll know that before five. What I do not appreciate/want/desire, is for someone else to teach MY child about sexual education. I will find a way when the time comes to opt out of that program. It is MY right as a parent to choose who teaches my child about those kinds of things and I should have the option, regardless of what anyone else might think, to opt out.

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly
Um...LaT.... how about some credit here? Some of us that choose to home-school or charter-school do so knowing damn well it is the challenge of a lifetime and will take more time, energy and financial resources than we think we have.

Sending Junior's ass out the door every morning for 8 hours into an unsafe district is the easy way out. We love our kids and if we thought they would turn out to be " poorly educated and socially inept", you can bet your ass we wouldn't do it.

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ORIGINAL: AsmodaisSin
You cannot have a child graduate without learning how to spell, add, subtract, etc........IF this were to become part of required curriculum, they will NOT be able to graduate without it. Gotta pass the test at some point!

Let me know if you need me to clarify it anymore.

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If I were a good parent

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I'd opt out and teach my child how I feel they need to be taught sexual education.

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

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I don't care that my five-year-old knows what kind of body parts they have. Chances are, they'll know that before five. What I do not appreciate/want/desire, is for someone else to teach MY child about sexual education. I will find a way when the time comes to opt out of that program. It is MY right as a parent to choose who teaches my child about those kinds of things and I should have the option, regardless of what anyone else might think, to opt out.

If you are sending your child out the door without the basic understanding of body parts and their functions, as well as a basic understanding of sexuality (and i stress BASIC...a 5 yr old does not need details) you are not doing your job as your childs primary educator. Sorry.

Go ahead and pitch a bitch both here and with the school board, but i can guarantee if YOU do not educate the child as to sexuality, and if the teachers do not educate him...his friends are going to do the job for you and doing a piss-poor job of it.

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Chances are, they'll know that before five.

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If I were a good parent

you're not? Then let the schools do the education.

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I'd opt out and teach my child how I feel they need to be taught sexual education.

Then do it! It is sex ed, dude...not rocket science, for petes sake!! If you did, if we all did...this issue would be a moot point, would it not?

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And if that day comes, I will home school my child. I do not think I am being unreasonable when I say that I want to educate my own child as far as sexual education is concerned.

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ORIGINAL: AsmodaisSin

Why do you assume I'll be puritanical?  Because I don't want someone else teaching my children about sexual education, so I just HAVE to be puritanical?  OH WOW. 

If I were a good parent, I'd opt out and teach my child how I feel they need to be taught sexual education.  I'd also supplement everything being taught as far as grammar, history, etc. 

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly
Um...LaT.... how about some credit here? Some of us that choose to home-school or charter-school do so knowing damn well it is the challenge of a lifetime and will take more time, energy and financial resources than we think we have.

Sending Junior's ass out the door every morning for 8 hours into an unsafe district is the easy way out. We love our kids and if we thought they would turn out to be " poorly educated and socially inept", you can bet your ass we wouldn't do it.

Holly, my intention is not to talk poorly about ALL that home school. Not at all. I have met several parents that did a bang up job. Even exceeded some of our good schools and made sure they met their children's social needs by getting them involved in activities that are traditionally offered in schools, like sports, etc.

But.........I have seen far more of the opposite. My sister included. Her goal in home schooling was to protect her sons. Not from a poor education, but from the evils ( like Harry Potter books, Aerosmith, just to name two she had a fit about) of the 'real world'. In return she has two very poorly educated kids with horrible social skills. They simply do not know how to fully function in that 'real world' they will have to deal with as adults. And sadly, I've seen a lot of that.

Yay for the good few, sucks to be a child of the rest.