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ORIGINAL: BoiJen
Ya know....my experiences with individuals who constantly tout things like "I'm Pagan" is code for "I don't have my shit together and I get to blame society". And then crazy asses go off "teaching" their children their versions of "history" and what not. There's an undercurrent issues with societal authority and a standardized system because you feel wronged by it somehow. When in actuality it's likely you just need to go deal with your shit.

The other reality is that the majority of Texans don't give a shit what you do on your land so long as you're not hurting anyone who doesn't want to be hurt and is of the age and sound enough mind to consent. The problem here is that kids can't consent and what you're talking about is setting them up for failure.

How are you talking about setting your kids for failure? What higher education courses have you taken to prepare yourself to properly educate your potential children? What resources have you found to support their education?

You keep going on and on about how you would do things differently yet you can't point to a single thing that qualifies you as an educator or a willingness to find help in that area.

Trying to equate a woman's choice to a child's education is weak. And it's an emotional draw that's failing because there is no link. There is no comparison. It's only a draw that you can make up in your head without any significant strength of argument. So please stop bringing it up.

Good luck with under educating your potential children.

boi

Edited because I can't type or remember my education first thing out of bed.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BoiJen
Ya know....my experiences with individuals who constantly tout things like "I'm Pagan" is code for "I don't have my shit together and I get to blame society". And then crazy asses go off "teaching" their children their versions of "history" and what not. There's an undercurrent issues with societal authority and a standardized system because you feel wronged by it somehow. When in actuality it's likely you just need to go deal with your shit.

The other reality is that the majority of Texans don't give a shit what you do on your land so long as you're not hurting anyone who doesn't want to be hurt and is of the age and sound enough mind to consent. The problem here is that kids can't consent and what you're talking about is setting them up for failure.

How are you talking about setting your kids for failure? What higher education courses have you taken to prepare yourself to properly educate your potential children? What resources have you found to support their education?

You keep going on and on about how you would do things differently yet you can't point to a single thing that qualifies you as an educator or a willingness to find help in that area.

Trying to equate a woman's choice to a child's education is weak. And it's an emotional draw that's failing because there is no link. There is no comparison. It's only a draw that you can make up in your head without any significant strength of argument. So please stop bringing it up.

Good luck with under educating your potential children.

boi

Edited because I can't type or remember my education first thing out of bed.

I don't always agree with everything you write (in this case I do) but I'm always impressed by the intelligence and thought behind the posts.

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The comprehensive plan under consideration in Helena would:

Teach fifth graders that “sexual intercourse includes, but is not limited to vaginal, oral, or anal penetration;
Teach kindergarteners about “basic reproductive body parts (penis, vagina, breast, nipples, testicles, scrotum).”
Teach all grades that marriage is a “commitment by two people.”
Teach first graders that “human beings can love people of the same gender & people of another gender.”
Teach that sexual orientation refers to a “person’s physical and/or romantic attraction to an individual of the same and/or different gender.”
Teach sixth graders that sexual intercourse includes “using the penis, fingers, tongue or objects.”

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I do not have such issues with them talking about homosexuality as I do about discussing oral and anal sex so young in a classroom so openly.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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The comprehensive plan under consideration in Helena would:

Teach fifth graders that “sexual intercourse includes, but is not limited to vaginal, oral, or anal penetration;
Teach kindergarteners about “basic reproductive body parts (penis, vagina, breast, nipples, testicles, scrotum).”
Teach all grades that marriage is a “commitment by two people.”
Teach first graders that “human beings can love people of the same gender & people of another gender.”
Teach that sexual orientation refers to a “person’s physical and/or romantic attraction to an individual of the same and/or different gender.”
Teach sixth graders that sexual intercourse includes “using the penis, fingers, tongue or objects.”

Read more: http://radio.foxnews.com/2010/07/13/obama-supports-kindergarten-sex-ed/#ixzz0tgcmahKL

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I do not have such issues with them talking about homosexuality as I do about discussing oral and anal sex so young in a classroom so openly.

Um.. where does it say this is what is being taught to kindergartners?

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Thats not what i asked. You claimed kindergartners would be taught about anal and oral sex. I asked where did you learn that from, because from the article here, and the added links i have posted, as well as those added from others, that was never once a proposal in early grades.

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ORIGINAL: AsmodaisSin

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Thats not what i asked. You claimed kindergartners would be taught about anal and oral sex. I asked where did you learn that from, because from the article here, and the added links i have posted, as well as those added from others, that was never once a proposal in early grades.

They'll be discussing homosexuality in first grade and anal and oral sex in fifth. 

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After eleven years of being with my niece almost every step of the way, I can say that, with complete certainty, that I only know a fraction of what it takes to be a parent.

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ORIGINAL: AsmodaisSin

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Thats not what i asked. You claimed kindergartners would be taught about anal and oral sex. I asked where did you learn that from, because from the article here, and the added links i have posted, as well as those added from others, that was never once a proposal in early grades.

They'll be discussing homosexuality in first grade and anal and oral sex in fifth. 

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•Among adolescents ages 15 to 17 who had engaged in sexual intercourse, 11 percent reported having first had intercourse at 12 or 13, 44 percent at 14 or 15, and 37 percent at 16 or 17

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ORIGINAL: AsmodaisSin

They'll be discussing homosexuality in first grade and anal and oral sex in fifth. 

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife



My first sexual experiences started in first grade and by the fifth grade oral sex was old news.

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And I don't think I am unique because I wasn't doing it alone.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: AsmodaisSin

They'll be discussing homosexuality in first grade and anal and oral sex in fifth. 

Are you really this naive?

My first sexual experiences started in first grade and by the fifth grade oral sex was old news.

And I don't think I am unique because I wasn't doing it alone.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: AsmodaisSin

They'll be discussing homosexuality in first grade and anal and oral sex in fifth. 

Are you really this naive?

My first sexual experiences started in first grade and by the fifth grade oral sex was old news.

And I don't think I am unique because I wasn't doing it alone.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

What we are trying to say is that a child's friends are there way before a parent is. By the age of 16, 55% of those who had sex at an early age already had it. Its akin to closing the barn door after the horse it out.