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Sanity -> TIME magazine: Dems Start to Panic as Reality of Midterm Woes Sets In (7/19/2010 6:05:22 AM)


An inexperienced, untested president may have looked good to the Dems on paper...

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Dems Start to Panic as Reality of Midterm Woes Sets In


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Under pressure, the Democrats are cracking. On both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue, there is a realization that Nancy Pelosi's hold on the speakership is in true jeopardy; that losing control of the Senate is not out of the question; and that time, once the Democrats' best friend, is now their mortal enemy. Since January, when Scott Brown won Ted Kennedy's Massachusetts Senate seat, the President's party has tried to downplay in public what its pollsters have been saying in private: that Obama's alienation of independents and white voters, along with the enthusiasm gap between the right and the left, means that Republicans are on a trajectory to pick up massive numbers of House and Senate seats, perhaps even to regain control of Congress.


Evidence of the pervasiveness of this view: Sunday's New York Times op-ed page, which featured a series of short essays from leading Democratic and Republican strategists about how Obama could go about staging a political comeback, focused not on November's midterms but on 2012 — an indication that Washington conventional wisdom has already written off prospects of Democrats sustaining a majority in the legislature.


Read more: http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,2004646,00.html#ixzz0u8Ir6CkL




Sanity -> RE: TIME magazine: Dems Start to Panic as Reality of Midterm Woes Sets In (7/19/2010 6:09:32 AM)


From The Wall Street Journal:

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GOP Sees Path to Control of Senate

WASHINGTON—Democrats for the first time are acknowledging that Republicans could retake the Senate this November if everything falls into place for the GOP, less than two years after Democrats held a daunting 60-seat majority.Leaders of both parties have believed for months that Republicans could win the House, where every lawmaker faces re-election. But a change of party control in the Senate, where only a third of the members are running and Republicans must capture 10 seats, seemed out of the question.


That's no longer the case. The emergence of competitive Republican candidates in Wisconsin, Washington and California—Democratic-leaning states where polls now show tight races—bring the number of seats that Republicans could seize from the Democrats to 11.


Democrats now control the Senate 59-41—after the death of Democratic Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, who was replaced by Republican Sen. Scott Brown—including two independents who usually vote with them. That means Republicans need 10 seats to take a 51-49 advantage.


Republicans would have to win virtually every competitive race to retake the Senate, without losing any seats of their own—clearly an uphill climb. The trouble for Democrats is that many trends are against them. Surveys show that Republicans are more motivated than Democrats to go to the polls, and that voters are looking for new leadership in Congress.


"I think there is definitely a chance" of losing the Senate, said Democratic strategist Gary Nordlinger, a Washington-based media consultant. "I wouldn't call it a probability, but there is certainly a chance."

Full article at http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704875004575375122374132154.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLTopStories




rulemylife -> RE: TIME magazine: Dems Start to Panic as Reality of Midterm Woes Sets In (7/19/2010 6:18:54 AM)



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TheHeretic -> RE: TIME magazine: Dems Start to Panic as Reality of Midterm Woes Sets In (7/19/2010 6:57:23 AM)

No, Sanity. It's ok. Really. Joe Biden was on the talk shows saying the Dems are going to hold the House and Senate. They can all just relax. Really. [;)]





RacerJim -> RE: TIME magazine: Dems Start to Panic as Reality of Midterm Woes Sets In (7/19/2010 7:00:22 AM)


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I see you're just as tired of Obama and the Democratic majority Congress as "We the people..." are. :-)




truckinslave -> RE: TIME magazine: Dems Start to Panic as Reality of Midterm Woes Sets In (7/19/2010 7:04:14 AM)

Three really interesting charts:

1. Senate, No Toss-ups

2. House. 35 Toss-ups, 3 of which are Republican. 0bamao and Pelosi have reallllly done a number here.

3.Governors, No Toss-ups

All of the movement in those charts has for some time been in the GOPs direction. You can check Intrade, too, of course; my little picks are doing well. Look at that gubernatorial map again. This is a census year, so that map spells H-U-G-E problems for the Dims in the House for a decade.

0bamao is snatching defeat from victory at a marvelous pace; but at least his dog has a private plane at our expense (what a carbon pawprint, uh?).




Sanity -> RE: TIME magazine: Dems Start to Panic as Reality of Midterm Woes Sets In (7/19/2010 7:05:16 AM)


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Sanity -> RE: TIME magazine: Dems Start to Panic as Reality of Midterm Woes Sets In (7/19/2010 7:14:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

No, Sanity. It's ok. Really. Joe Biden was on the talk shows saying the Dems are going to hold the House and Senate. They can all just relax. Really. [;)]




Heres the article:

Biden: Dems will ‘shock the heck out of everybody’ at the polls


What fun... [:)]





slvemike4u -> RE: TIME magazine: Dems Start to Panic as Reality of Midterm Woes Sets In (7/19/2010 7:28:45 AM)

 So let me see if I have this straight....The Democrats,the current majority party ,are nervous concerning the upcoming mid-terms.The Republicans,the current minority party have plans,or if you prefer(as the WSJ does)a "path" to retaking control of the Senate.
Does that about sum things up?
Thank you for posting this Sanity.....I'm not sure what I would do without your constant stream of groundbreaking and shocking little tidbits [:D]




Sanity -> RE: TIME magazine: Dems Start to Panic as Reality of Midterm Woes Sets In (7/19/2010 7:34:25 AM)


Oh, so you've been fully aware for some time now that the current Dem leadership is most likely going to cost the Democrats the House and possibly the Senate this fall?

What was your first clue?




slvemike4u -> RE: TIME magazine: Dems Start to Panic as Reality of Midterm Woes Sets In (7/19/2010 7:42:20 AM)

 Reading comprehension is not your strong suit is it Sanity.....by the way "most likely" is your reading of the situation...mine is that the leadership of both parties are game planning based on possible and perhaps probable outcomes.
In other words Sanity....business as usual within the Beltway.




mnottertail -> RE: TIME magazine: Dems Start to Panic as Reality of Midterm Woes Sets In (7/19/2010 7:42:38 AM)

Historical evidence of the pattern,  going back further than Abe Lincoln and continuing right up to W. (And no reason to believe anything would change the trend this mid-term). 




flcouple2009 -> RE: TIME magazine: Dems Start to Panic as Reality of Midterm Woes Sets In (7/19/2010 8:02:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Historical evidence of the pattern,  going back further than Abe Lincoln and continuing right up to W. (And no reason to believe anything would change the trend this mid-term). 


You do understand that your talking to people with an understanding of history that dates back to this morning.




Sanity -> RE: TIME magazine: Dems Start to Panic as Reality of Midterm Woes Sets In (7/19/2010 8:25:59 AM)


It would probably help the Dems if the president were popular. Or if the speaker were popular. Or if the majority leader were popular...


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Historical evidence of the pattern,  going back further than Abe Lincoln and continuing right up to W. (And no reason to believe anything would change the trend this mid-term). 




domiguy -> RE: TIME magazine: Dems Start to Panic as Reality of Midterm Woes Sets In (7/19/2010 8:34:20 AM)

It would be different if we were not broke, in two overall unnecessary wars, saddled with a greed induced mortgage crisis,oil dependency,a failing health system and a horribly unfunded, underfunded private/public pension system that is doomed for failure.

This is not going to work out well for any parties involved. Until these and other problems are addressed we are in for a shit storm of trouble. No one will be "popular."




willbeurdaddy -> RE: TIME magazine: Dems Start to Panic as Reality of Midterm Woes Sets In (7/19/2010 8:51:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


It would probably help the Dems if the president were popular. Or if the speaker were popular. Or if the majority leader were popular...




Or any of their policies were popular.




domiguy -> RE: TIME magazine: Dems Start to Panic as Reality of Midterm Woes Sets In (7/19/2010 8:52:33 AM)

Wilbur, when are they capping the well or when will Holder be forced to step down?




Apocalypso -> RE: TIME magazine: Dems Start to Panic as Reality of Midterm Woes Sets In (7/19/2010 9:43:27 AM)

Corporate party to be replaced by different corporate party.  World believed to stay much the same.




Jeffff -> RE: TIME magazine: Dems Start to Panic as Reality of Midterm Woes Sets In (7/19/2010 10:33:11 AM)


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ORIGINAL: domiguy

Wilbur, when are they capping the well or when will Holder be forced to step down?



The well capping was a mistake. I am sure it will be corrected soon.





mnottertail -> RE: TIME magazine: Dems Start to Panic as Reality of Midterm Woes Sets In (7/19/2010 10:39:01 AM)

No, BP just won't kowtow to kenyans.




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