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HisSub1213 -> RE: Power and Stupidity (7/20/2010 3:02:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

To the farm!!!!!!!!!! Cuz your cute and all.

But in all seriousness, you have GOT to cut all ties with him.



[sm=agree.gif] I second this.




Vendaval -> RE: Power and Stupidity (7/20/2010 3:04:30 PM)


jujubeeMB,

You have some great advice here, get a neutral person to help straighten your head out and heal your heart. Anger and jealousy are a dangerous combination.

Don't give someone with the motivation to seriously and permanently hurt and/or destroy you no limits permission. Unless your end goal is to wear a toe tag in a body bag over at the country morgue.




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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

quote:

ORIGINAL: porcelaine

And I'd advise that whomever you're confiding in is someone that has no interest in securing your hand. I'm having this discussion right now with someone I've known for years and the bottom line is people have ulterior motives even when they appear helpful.
~porcelaine


Yes. Which was kinda the point of my original post " To the farm". And why I suggested a friend rather than otherwise. Perhaps another hetro, submissive woman that has already lived some of this stuff and come out the other side, much stronger and wiser.



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lostsub26 -> RE: Power and Stupidity (7/20/2010 3:59:26 PM)

You topped him...

He started acting like a bit of a jerk, because he realized that he lost his Dominant position as Master of the house and the relationship. By him catering to YOUR needs just shows that he was malleable and he became the sub in the relationship, which is not what you're looking for i bet. You are a submissive and you want to cater to your Master's needs. Not the other way around. So when he was trying to win you back, is it not true that you remained firm in your conviction not to get back together? Of course it is. You don't want some guy trailing after you like a lost puppy. How repulsive and submissive of him! :)

And when the tables turned and suddenly he regained his dominance over you, isn't that what you secretly craved with your entire being?
My advice is that the both of you need to figure out your role in the relationship. A strong leadership needs to be established and can't keep wavering back and forth. Otherwise, you two ought to just be vanilla or a switch couple.

On the other hand, i think you desire to be a slave more than you know, but you're still not ready to totally let go of control to someone who isn't fully in control and is even a little confused.




sunshinemiss -> RE: Power and Stupidity (7/20/2010 4:07:03 PM)

Lost sub,
that is the biggest pile of crap I've seen on here for awhile. 
sunshine




LafayetteLady -> RE: Power and Stupidity (7/20/2010 4:09:24 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Lost sub,
that is the biggest pile of crap I've seen on here for awhile. 
sunshine


Damn it Sunshine! You took all the prospective fun out of my post!




LadyPact -> RE: Power and Stupidity (7/20/2010 4:12:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady


quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Lost sub,
that is the biggest pile of crap I've seen on here for awhile. 
sunshine


Damn it Sunshine! You took all the prospective fun out of my post!

I'm kind of thinking of printing it and hanging it above My computer for a while. 

[sm=yahoo.gif]

Edited because I'm wondering if Holly has a better smiley that has anything that remotely does have a pile of poo.




sunshinemiss -> RE: Power and Stupidity (7/20/2010 4:12:47 PM)

I mean... seriously... where was I gonna begin with that?

*edited to blush.




bestheadyet -> RE: Power and Stupidity (7/20/2010 4:42:47 PM)

just sending juju some sub love.....been there,done that, got a t shirt AND a post card!!!! read some of my threads juju

hughughug

josie




lostsub26 -> RE: Power and Stupidity (7/20/2010 5:37:25 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Lost sub,
that is the biggest pile of crap I've seen on here for awhile. 
sunshine


You are entitled to your opinion and I to mine. I wonder why you are so opposed to what I have to say, perhaps there is an element of truth that you chose not to look at in yourself...




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Power and Stupidity (7/20/2010 5:40:39 PM)

Wow. That really WAS a pile of crap, Sunny!! You can recognize the horsehockey in all its forms!




DarkSteven -> RE: Power and Stupidity (7/20/2010 5:52:19 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Lost sub,
that is the biggest pile of crap I've seen on here for awhile. 
sunshine


I've seen some other pretty big ones.  Wanna get a ruler and compare?




sunshinemiss -> RE: Power and Stupidity (7/20/2010 6:39:17 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lostsub26

quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Lost sub,
that is the biggest pile of crap I've seen on here for awhile. 
sunshine


You are entitled to your opinion and I to mine. I wonder why you are so opposed to what I have to say, perhaps there is an element of truth that you chose not to look at in yourself...


Some things, lost, are not about DENIAL.  Some things are simply not true.  I think YOU need to stop projecting your own shit on other people. 

good luck,
sunshine




poise -> RE: Power and Stupidity (7/20/2010 6:43:12 PM)

Will this suffice?

[image]local://upfiles/1031783/9C667394339049879F78706871DF048D.gif[/image]




Aylee -> RE: Power and Stupidity (7/20/2010 6:44:04 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Lost sub,
that is the biggest pile of crap I've seen on here for awhile. 
sunshine


[sm=applause.gif]




laurell3 -> RE: Power and Stupidity (7/20/2010 6:47:27 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lostsub26

You topped him...

He started acting like a bit of a jerk, because he realized that he lost his Dominant position as Master of the house and the relationship. By him catering to YOUR needs just shows that he was malleable and he became the sub in the relationship, which is not what you're looking for i bet. You are a submissive and you want to cater to your Master's needs. Not the other way around. So when he was trying to win you back, is it not true that you remained firm in your conviction not to get back together? Of course it is. You don't want some guy trailing after you like a lost puppy. How repulsive and submissive of him! :)

And when the tables turned and suddenly he regained his dominance over you, isn't that what you secretly craved with your entire being?
My advice is that the both of you need to figure out your role in the relationship. A strong leadership needs to be established and can't keep wavering back and forth. Otherwise, you two ought to just be vanilla or a switch couple.

On the other hand, i think you desire to be a slave more than you know, but you're still not ready to totally let go of control to someone who isn't fully in control and is even a little confused.


You'd have to read all of her posts on this relationship and the problems in it to really understand that yes, in fact, what you are saying is absolute garbage. Not everything is about role. All humans have the right to have their needs met. He didn't meet them and made no attempt to listen when she brought it up. She also expresses true fear of him. That's not bottoming, that's an asshole, apparently your opinions mirror his in that regard.

juju, I know this is a rough time for you, I wish there were magic words to make it all better. There aren't. However, I am confident that out of this experience you will learn more about yourself and what you really need to be healthy and happy.




sexyred1 -> RE: Power and Stupidity (7/20/2010 6:56:20 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: jujubeeMB

I do feel the need to add that I think this was as much my fault as it was his. I definitely wanted it, and it was really, really hard for me to want to listen to the part that was hurting and completely in need of ending the relationship. I just wanted to listen to the stuff that always made what we had great, and that part was the dark depths he could take me to. I just couldn't get him to be present with me out of those dark depths. It's so frustrating and so sad. But I didn't want to completely shift the blame off myself - I couldn't resist submitting, and I should have.


As you know, I totally empathize. And having the self knowledge and maturity to admit our own fault in letting people hurt us and not meet our needs is good, but it really does not help entirely.

I can only hope that time and personal strength and focus will help, once and for all.

You are not alone here, and I know you know that.




lostsub26 -> RE: Power and Stupidity (7/20/2010 7:07:04 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

quote:

ORIGINAL: lostsub26

quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Lost sub,
that is the biggest pile of crap I've seen on here for awhile. 
sunshine


You are entitled to your opinion and I to mine. I wonder why you are so opposed to what I have to say, perhaps there is an element of truth that you chose not to look at in yourself...


Some things, lost, are not about DENIAL.  Some things are simply not true.  I think YOU need to stop projecting your own shit on other people. 

good luck,
sunshine


How do you know what is true for juju? You are also projecting your own shit by even stating your opinion. So why don't you think again before calling someone's opinion a pile of crap. It's not up to you to judge and I wasn't writing it to you. But you act as though you know what is best to juju. How arrogant of you.




NuevaVida -> RE: Power and Stupidity (7/20/2010 7:09:00 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lostsub26
But you act as though you know what is best to juju. How arrogant of you.


So have you.  Reread your post to her. [;)]




sexyred1 -> RE: Power and Stupidity (7/20/2010 7:14:12 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: lostsub26


quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

quote:

ORIGINAL: lostsub26

quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Lost sub,
that is the biggest pile of crap I've seen on here for awhile. 
sunshine


You are entitled to your opinion and I to mine. I wonder why you are so opposed to what I have to say, perhaps there is an element of truth that you chose not to look at in yourself...


Some things, lost, are not about DENIAL.  Some things are simply not true.  I think YOU need to stop projecting your own shit on other people. 

good luck,
sunshine


How do you know what is true for juju? You are also projecting your own shit by even stating your opinion. So why don't you think again before calling someone's opinion a pile of crap. It's not up to you to judge and I wasn't writing it to you. But you act as though you know what is best to juju. How arrogant of you.


The people who know what is true for juju are the people who have listened to her, talked with her, empathized with her, advised her and who are in similar circumstances.

It is not arrogance, it is common ground. And if you say well you are just commiserating and your advice is not worthwhile, that is not true.

Even if someone cannot solve their own issue, they still can try and help someone else. At least I believe that and my advice is not self serving. I am self aware enough to know if I had a hidden agenda.

Understand?




lostsub26 -> RE: Power and Stupidity (7/20/2010 7:21:23 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: laurell3

quote:

ORIGINAL: lostsub26

You topped him...

He started acting like a bit of a jerk, because he realized that he lost his Dominant position as Master of the house and the relationship. By him catering to YOUR needs just shows that he was malleable and he became the sub in the relationship, which is not what you're looking for i bet. You are a submissive and you want to cater to your Master's needs. Not the other way around. So when he was trying to win you back, is it not true that you remained firm in your conviction not to get back together? Of course it is. You don't want some guy trailing after you like a lost puppy. How repulsive and submissive of him! :)

And when the tables turned and suddenly he regained his dominance over you, isn't that what you secretly craved with your entire being?
My advice is that the both of you need to figure out your role in the relationship. A strong leadership needs to be established and can't keep wavering back and forth. Otherwise, you two ought to just be vanilla or a switch couple.

On the other hand, i think you desire to be a slave more than you know, but you're still not ready to totally let go of control to someone who isn't fully in control and is even a little confused.


You'd have to read all of her posts on this relationship and the problems in it to really understand that yes, in fact, what you are saying is absolute garbage. Not everything is about role. All humans have the right to have their needs met. He didn't meet them and made no attempt to listen when she brought it up. She also expresses true fear of him. That's not bottoming, that's an asshole, apparently your opinions mirror his in that regard.

juju, I know this is a rough time for you, I wish there were magic words to make it all better. There aren't. However, I am confident that out of this experience you will learn more about yourself and what you really need to be healthy and happy.



So does every person you experience true fear with, also get you all wet and horny? don't give me that crap that she fears him. What she fears is losing control, because she's kind of a control freak i bet. And the fact that not having control of him, is what gets her off, thus her fantasies about being "kidnapped" and "raped".

She's no victim. She LOVES being "scared" and "helpless", because she's a kinky bitch. OK, maybe he's not the right guy for her, emotionally and what not. I can;t judge, but sexually, he rocks her boat...provided that he takes ALL control. Read the thread again and pay closer attention.

You can choose to look at only the negative and build your opinion based on that. You could point your finger and say, "poor little victim" and "what a tyrant". Then tell her break up, run away bs.

Or you can see what IS working in their relationship and encourage her to build that part up. It's a matter of choice and perspective.

And if that qualifies what I wrote as garbage, maybe it's because you weren't looking at it from my angle. But there's no need to condemn new ideas and different ways of looking at things, just cause you don't understand them. That's called ignorance and intolerance.




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