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RE: Filibuster broken, jobless benefits may flow soon - 7/21/2010 4:49:57 PM   
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At least youve perfected the ability to say nothing.


As have you

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RE: Filibuster broken, jobless benefits may flow soon - 7/21/2010 8:38:03 PM   
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Eligibility and amount
Americans out of work who do not qualify for unemployment insurance include part-time, temporary, and self-employed workers.[24]

Generally, the worker must be unemployed through no fault of his/her own (generally through lay-offs). Unemployment benefits are based on reported covered quarterly earnings. The amount of earnings and the number of quarters worked are used to determine the length and value of the unemployment benefit. The average weekly payment is 36 percent of the individual's average weekly wage

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unemployment_benefits#United_States

36% sure isnt a whole lot



It's worse than 36% Tazzy ... most states EXCEPT Massachusetts ... CAP the weekly amount paid.

For example ... in Michigan ... it is $362 per week.

Well less than 36 per cent of 100K annual salary.

NO ONE WILLINGLY MAKES THIS CHOICE!

So think of Unemployment ... as a TAX REFUND to people WHO GOT SCREWED by bad Goverment Decisions ...

The rich don't need tax cuts ... they just need to pay their fair share!

And without the wars in Iraq and Afganistan ... and the Bush tax cuts ... there would not be a deficit ... either ...

SO Every body DON'T FEED ME THE FAUX BS ABOUT HOW YOU ARE PAYING FOR THIS!

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RE: Filibuster broken, jobless benefits may flow soon - 7/21/2010 8:45:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: seekingOwnertoo

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Eligibility and amount
Americans out of work who do not qualify for unemployment insurance include part-time, temporary, and self-employed workers.[24]

Generally, the worker must be unemployed through no fault of his/her own (generally through lay-offs). Unemployment benefits are based on reported covered quarterly earnings. The amount of earnings and the number of quarters worked are used to determine the length and value of the unemployment benefit. The average weekly payment is 36 percent of the individual's average weekly wage

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unemployment_benefits#United_States

36% sure isnt a whole lot



It's worse than 36% Tazzy ... most states EXCEPT Massachusetts ... CAP the weekly amount paid.

For example ... in Michigan ... it is $362 per week.

Well less than 36 per cent of 100K annual salary.

NO ONE WILLINGLY MAKES THIS CHOICE!

So think of Unemployment ... as a TAX REFUND to people WHO GOT SCREWED by bad Goverment Decisions ...

The rich don't need tax cuts ... they just need to pay their fair share!

And without the wars in Iraq and Afganistan ... and the Bush tax cuts ... there would not be a deficit ... either ...

SO Every body DON'T FEED ME THE FAUX BS ABOUT HOW YOU ARE PAYING FOR THIS!



Uh, I really hate to burst your bubble, but unemployment is taxable income, except for the first $2400.

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RE: Filibuster broken, jobless benefits may flow soon - 7/21/2010 9:22:57 PM   
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99 weeks? Does that have anything to do with 99 bottles of beer on the wall? 

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RE: Filibuster broken, jobless benefits may flow soon - 7/21/2010 10:12:08 PM   
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1. I screamed when Bush expanded the government  larger than many Democrats ever dreamed of.

2. I was an remain hawkish on the Iraq thing as neither immoral nor needless.


Item #1 was caused by Item #2.

Wars always, always, always enlarge and empower government.

Read the recent article in the WaPo for an insight into how the hundreds of billions poured into the War on Terror have accomplished nothing except enrich a few at the expense of the many.

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RE: Filibuster broken, jobless benefits may flow soon - 7/22/2010 10:27:54 AM   
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Yup, the people one step away from being homeless, starving and completely destitute are not the power players on Wall Street or Washington DC. Don't forget how hard it is to receive any kind of assistance once you no longer have an actual place of residence.


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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

Ya know...all I can say is that Americans who needed and still need these benefits are/were being held hostage like citizens who need public transportation during a strike. We don't really give a fuck why or what for the strike is happening. In the end all we see is greedy fuckers making our lives harder.

Just sayin....

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RE: Filibuster broken, jobless benefits may flow soon - 7/22/2010 11:08:57 AM   
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You mean Obama didn't enter office with an economic decline well under way courtesy of the Decider?



I will say that Bush didn't do great job in all things, but he was also handed a shaken economy and it was complicated by a terrorist attack that was seen by many in the know as being precipitated by the weak policies set forth by his prior. But Bush, after being advised to, stop blaming all his problems on those before him, some in the media didn't, but I don't remember Bush bitching about Clinton and the Dems day after day after day after day. It seems a bit whiney and isn't all that respectable of a trait in a leader. I think the present CINC needs to start behaving like one.

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And why is it that Republicans who supported massive bailouts for for the financial and auto firms decided helping laid-off workers was a welfare program?



If I recall correctly it was always intended that the Banks and Auto Manufactures were supposed to pay back their bailouts.......with interest.

Are you going to require the same of the unemployed? If not it doesn't seem all that unreasonable that we should have to save somewhere else to assist our fellow citizens through this issue. I believe I read somewhere this morning where our own Julie doesn't have health insurance so that she can afford to eat. The governament really doesn't have the right to spend beyond their means either. It seems that we could trim spending on Pakistand, North Korea, Rain Forrest research or a whole of less critical government programs until we have everyone off the couch and ......... woooorrrrrrrrrkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkking. Assuming that's possible.

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Even though it was paltry compared to the money given to those companies.



Given?

Uhmmmmm TARP is the only programmed that was actually championed by 43. I have been told by the current administration that much of that has been paid back in full. Are they lying to me about that too?

The Auto Bailout is Obama's baby, and supposedly they have or are paying that back as I have mentioned twice now in this very post. Again, is that a lie?

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Where was the demand for cutting spending elsewhere when they voted for TARP?



I think I covered this question, TARP if paid back was actually an investment. Did the Congress let them off with no interest paid?

Why does it seem like many folks around here are more interested in furthering their own agenda rather than discovering the truth and righting this ship?

Now don't take this as me siding with Bush, but your (the liberal element) continuous mello-drama about "it's all Bush and the Republicans fault is starting to make you appear infantile, incompetent and unable to solve the problems you claimed you could, hence making you a worthy candidate for dismissal.

Man up, work hard, have success, make mistakes and correct them like all grown ups do and you might earn some respect, or else your gonna need that unemployment.

The Bull has spoken.

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RE: Filibuster broken, jobless benefits may flow soon - 7/22/2010 11:18:13 AM   
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Lets recall what the Republican position on this bill actually was.

The position was hold the democrats to their own promise of Pay As You Go.

They even agreed that if the Democrates would take the money from the Porkulous bill left overs that have not been spent. They would be OK with that.

Such obstructionism is terrible.



The "unsustainable deficit" was not a problem when Republicans voted for unpaid tax cuts (which never lead to prosperity) nor when they went into a needless and immoral war. None of that spending was paid for. Now they are holier-than-thou when it comes to balancing the budget. Puhleez. Just bullshit politics. The Republicans' hands are stained red from deficit spending and from the blood of 4300 American lives lost in Iraq.



Uhmmmm yeah it was a problem, why do you think the Dems have been given this chance to correct the mess like they said they could.....You do realize in a center right country the Dems needed independent and pissed off Republicans to vote for them........right?

Jesus people this isn't rocket science. Stop looking back and saying "they did it" to justify present incompentence and inability.

Many of us didn't like when "they" did it and we damn sure like it less now.

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RE: Filibuster broken, jobless benefits may flow soon - 7/22/2010 11:24:22 AM   
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Why does it seem like many folks around here are more interested in furthering their own agenda rather than discovering the truth and righting this ship?



Yeah not sure why all the neocons here do that. You'll have to ask them I guess.
 
As a moderate rationalist, their continual blaming and deflection looks particularly whiney and pathetic to me. I think they have unstated masochism issues and prefer to wallow in their negativity.
 
Live well.

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RE: Filibuster broken, jobless benefits may flow soon - 7/22/2010 11:31:13 AM   
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Yeah not sure why all the neocons here do that. You'll have to ask them I guess.


Tunnel Vision? I see all sides (Neo's, SP's, In-depends and foreigners just offering thier two cents) around here doing the same thing.

quote:



Live well.



You too....


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RE: Filibuster broken, jobless benefits may flow soon - 7/22/2010 1:57:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: xBullx

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Yeah not sure why all the neocons here do that. You'll have to ask them I guess.


Tunnel Vision? I see all sides (Neo's, SP's, In-depends and foreigners just offering thier two cents) around here doing the same thing.

quote:



Live well.



You too....



You can be sure that anyone who spouts "neo-cons" endlessly without having a clue what it means is ignorable.

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RE: Filibuster broken, jobless benefits may flow soon - 7/22/2010 2:01:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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Yeah not sure why all the neocons here do that. You'll have to ask them I guess.


Tunnel Vision? I see all sides (Neo's, SP's, In-depends and foreigners just offering thier two cents) around here doing the same thing.

quote:



Live well.



You too....



You can be sure that anyone who spouts "neo-cons" endlessly without having a clue what it means is ignorable.


Especially by those incapable of perceiving irony.
 
You should go ahead and ignore. On all your IDs.

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RE: Filibuster broken, jobless benefits may flow soon - 7/22/2010 2:06:49 PM   
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RE: Filibuster broken, jobless benefits may flow soon - 7/22/2010 2:09:31 PM   
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You can be sure that anyone who spouts "neo-cons" endlessly without having a clue what it means is ignorable.







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RE: Filibuster broken, jobless benefits may flow soon - 7/22/2010 2:11:34 PM   
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You can be sure that anyone who spouts "neo-cons" endlessly without having a clue what it means is ignorable.








Make sure you do it with your other IDs too.

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