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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 10:50:45 AM   
TheHeretic


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I do not think I got "thrown under the bus" by Obama.



I don't think so either, Julia. You just got suckered by a guy with no chance of delivering. Now in the '06 mid-term, I think you did get a close look at the exhaust and suspension for thinking the Dems would pull us out of Iraq. They didn't even kiss you afterwards, did they?

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 10:51:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		and who else was there that could deliver, or had a better chance of doing so?

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 11:12:44 AM   
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why are you pursuing it?



Okay, okay. It might be the Dayquil.

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 11:16:16 AM   
slvemike4u


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Status: offline 		All good.....I hope you feel better soon.
Edited to add.....I had to chuckle at the idea of Dayquil posting....I've been known to post after taking my 10 mg of vicodin....and regret it later..lol.
I think at least one of my enforced"vacations" can be laid directly at that door.

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 11:19:06 AM   
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And lots of people vote based on no value higher than their own selfish self-interest. I don't know that that is something to be proud of, Julia.

Lots of other people vote based on a bill of goods, without an ounce of good faith behind the lie they believe in. People who actually thought the Dems would end the war in Iraq back in '06, for example. Or took the leap of faith to vote for the guy who got the big job.


Exactly. And an ever-increasing majority of people who voted for Obama on no value higher than their own self-interest have gotten exactly what they voted for...thrown under the bus by someone with no value higher than his own self-interest.


And how was bush different? You racist piece of crap.


Look, I'm still feeling out people's personalities, so forgive my lack of understanding. 

Why do you do that?  Maybe I'm missing multiple posts over multiple years, but why do you keep claiming that Jim is a racist?  I'm not trying to be cute or funny or anything.  I genuinely want to understand. 



Its easy to understand. He's a troll. Dont feed him.

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 11:22:06 AM   
slvemike4u


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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 11:24:37 AM   
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It's going to cost most people more thanks to Obamacare.


How?

Point that out to me.


How can it not?

Explain to me how Obamacare can cover the 20 Million +/- currently uninsured, the majority of whom Obama claimed can't afford healthcare and therefore Obamacare would have to cover free, without raising the cost to the 280 Million +/- currently insured?




By cutting waste, of course. <cough cough>

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 11:37:31 AM   
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And lots of people vote based on no value higher than their own selfish self-interest. I don't know that that is something to be proud of, Julia.

Lots of other people vote based on a bill of goods, without an ounce of good faith behind the lie they believe in. People who actually thought the Dems would end the war in Iraq back in '06, for example. Or took the leap of faith to vote for the guy who got the big job.


Exactly. And an ever-increasing majority of people who voted for Obama on no value higher than their own self-interest have gotten exactly what they voted for...thrown under the bus by someone with no value higher than his own self-interest.


And how was bush different? You racist piece of crap.


Well, one way Bush was, and still is, different from Obama is that Bush didn't put all of his records under lock and key so no one could find out whence he came. You Obamabot POS.


Is that so? maybe you can find a definitive explanation of what he was up to when he went AWOL from the national guard online somewhere, there. or, you know, his GPA results from Harvard. Hell, while we're on this, see if you can find a copy of his birth certificate on the internerd.

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 11:45:48 AM   
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What was it that encouraged you to vote Bush, slowmindedJim?  Was it the bankruptcy, the fact that he left his state in sorry fiscal shape?  Clue us the fuck in.


One thing that encourged me to vote Bush, twice, was Gore's and Kerry's condescending elitist persona...like your's, and Obama's.

This is something that's always puzzled me, as an overeducated limey eurotrash sort whose grandaddy was saved from Hitler by manly American whiners like yourself. While you're trying to explain your thoughts in terms that people who aren't to the right of Silvio Berlusconi can understand, perhaps you could point out how a more or less self made mixed race son of a single mother is more of an elitist than somebody who finished bottom of his class at Annapolis but still got to wreck eight jets in Vietnam because his old man was an admiral? Or, come to that, how somebody who got into Harvard because of his family and scraped a passing grade for the same reason, despite being more interested in cocaine scotch and whores than his studies isn't an elitist? Bush and McCain were both members of the elite from birth, unlike the arriviste Obama.
Is "elitist" just neocon for "has read a book or two since finishing school" or something?

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 11:56:05 AM   
thornhappy


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What is so wrong about an informed voter allowing their self interests to guide them in the voting booth.Surely what is serves the interest of individual Americans is good for America.To my mind the only problem is when those "selfish" self interests are ill informed.....I have absolutely no problem with  informed voters casting their votes based on their self interests.In the larger picture what is good for my neighbor.....is good for me and America to boot.


This is the argument you would expect from a "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" individualistic American. I find it rather funny that Rich doesn't agree with it....


You're in graduate school and you don't know that America was founded by and became the envy of the world because of "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" individualistic Americans? What a waste of grant money, i.e., tax-payer (my) money.

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 11:57:44 AM   
thornhappy


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Just like during the Clinton administration the first thing Obama's people do when he is critisized is declain the critic to be illigitimat, then they say the critisizm must be false because no ligit critic says that.

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 12:04:19 PM   
thornhappy


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I'm well stocked with OTC remedies, RML, but if you have some of that good cough syrup with codeine...

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 5:29:51 PM   
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You don't win elections without us Independants.



perhaps one day you will actually read the constitution and realize your vote counts for nothing.
Presidents in the u.s. are appointed by the electoral college...one would think that a grown man would have learned that at some time in his life.
You are a citizen right? This is shit you are suppose to know.


Perhaps you'd care to post a quote from the U.S. Constitution wherein it says, or even implies, that an Independent cannot vote for a Democrat or Republican.
Grow up little boy.
If you are a citizen you shouldn't be allowed to vote.



Perhaps you should learn to read.
The constitution says that the electoral college appoints the president and your vote does not count for fuck all.

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 5:32:00 PM   
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Everything costs.

What is the most important thing?


Drugs and trashy women...health care is not even in the same zip code.


You left out booze.

Hunter is rolling over in his grave right now.



Alcohol is a drug

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 5:33:43 PM   
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I think Obama will win reelection, whether I support him or not...




I don't think Obama will even be on the ballot in 2012


What kind of odds you giving big mouth

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 5:34:58 PM   
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Without the compromise there would be no health care reform and there would be no financial reform.


I am uninsured. I could go on all day and all night why we needed better healthcare reform, but I am coming at this from a completely selfish point of view, I want health insurance I can afford because I want to live a long time.... this was not up for compromise for me.




Do have auto insurance?  Homeowner's insurance?

If so, why would you not have health insurance?




Perhaps the cost?


It's going to cost most people more thanks to Obamacare.



Is this some more of your mindless rhetoric or could you please enlighten us with some sort of data?

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 5:37:09 PM   
thompsonx


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Everything costs.

What is the most important thing?


It must be nice to be employed and have enough money to eat, pay your mortgage, and your health insurance... millions lack your good fortune


And it must be nice to be in graduate school on student loand and government grants...millions more lack the good fortune to attend college, much less graduate school.


Is it your point that no one should go to graduate school?
Or
Is it that you do not feel anyone but the rich should get a graduate degree?

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 5:39:20 PM   
slvemike4u


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Status: offline 		I can see it now.....President Obama addresses the nation sometime prior to primary season....he states that he"will not seek,nor will he accept his party's nomination for re-election"
Has that ever happened?


Other than LBJ of course

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 5:40:45 PM   
thompsonx


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What is so wrong about an informed voter allowing their self interests to guide them in the voting booth.Surely what is serves the interest of individual Americans is good for America.To my mind the only problem is when those "selfish" self interests are ill informed.....I have absolutely no problem with  informed voters casting their votes based on their self interests.In the larger picture what is good for my neighbor.....is good for me and America to boot.


This is the argument you would expect from a "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" individualistic American. I find it rather funny that Rich doesn't agree with it....


You're in graduate school and you don't know that America was founded by and became the envy of the world because of "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" individualistic Americans? What a waste of grant money, i.e., tax-payer (my) money.



Have you ever been in the same zip code with a history book?
Perhaps you could give us a list of those who have done the "bootstrap" thing.
Once you pay your taxes it is no longer your money it is the governments money to spend as our elected representatives see fit. If you do not like that then perhaps you should seek to change the constitution or get the fuck out of my country.

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 5:56:26 PM   
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What was it that encouraged you to vote Bush, slowmindedJim?  Was it the bankruptcy, the fact that he left his state in sorry fiscal shape?  Clue us the fuck in.


One thing that encourged me to vote Bush, twice, was Gore's and Kerry's condescending elitist persona...like your's, and Obama's.

This is something that's always puzzled me, as an overeducated limey eurotrash sort whose grandaddy was saved from Hitler by manly American whiners like yourself. While you're trying to explain your thoughts in terms that people who aren't to the right of Silvio Berlusconi can understand, perhaps you could point out how a more or less self made mixed race son of a single mother is more of an elitist than somebody who finished bottom of his class at Annapolis but still got to wreck eight jets in Vietnam because his old man was an admiral? Or, come to that, how somebody who got into Harvard because of his family and scraped a passing grade for the same reason, despite being more interested in cocaine scotch and whores than his studies isn't an elitist? Bush and McCain were both members of the elite from birth, unlike the arriviste Obama.
Is "elitist" just neocon for "has read a book or two since finishing school" or something?


"Ace" McCain lost five aircraft and only two of those in viet nam. One on the forestall when some jarheads tried to frag him and the other when he crashed into a lake in hanoi.
The reason why the vietnamese tried to give him back to the navy instead of keeping him might be because they thought he would be a greater asset to their war effort if he was still flying for the navy.
One might wonder why a man who spent about five years in the hanoi hilton can only come up with two people who will vouch for him as a pow and both of them have high paying jobs working for the "Ace's" father in law.
This fucking piece of shit is the only man in the hanoi hilton to sign a confession and gave interviews to communist journalist. It will be a fine day to see his punk ass duckwalked into protsmouth naval prison.

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