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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 9:29:57 AM   
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Any comment on the above post Rich?


I think I already expressed my contempt for applying any test of "thinking right" to voting rights, Mike.

Yes Rich you did...the funny thing is despite the fact that I was joking in my original post....I never said anything about a test to determine whether one thinks "right" or not.....more along the line(please remember I was joking) of a test to determine whether or not said idiot "thinks" at all...or has the fucking ability to do so.In racistjims case there is ample evidence that he suffers from a critical deficiancy in this all important area.

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 9:32:05 AM   
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So you admit you are more comfortable with someone of limited intelligence,someone you can identify with,in the White House.
How illuminating.


How utterly unsurprising too...

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 9:33:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		My dearest RacistJim.....Do I really need to go back and pull up your prior posts? I love your profile and how you exclaim that you are a "WHITE" male. As if you went the extra mile, that you scaled some pinnacle to make that blessed event occur.

RacistJim is just an angry old bitter cocksucker...Here is his take on publicly humiliating people who receive aid...Which you know is a complete fabrication....Yeah, the fuckstick made this shit up....He cut and pasted this...Racistjim is completely dishonest.

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An unemployed welfare recipient 40's single mom of two (by different and long lost fathers) two houses up the street from me got the government to purchase her home in return for her taking in and taking care of her sister's three kids after her welfare recipicient single mom sister was imprisoned for child abandonment and welfare fraud. Her 17 year old live at home non-working daughter has a 1.5 yo son and is now 3 months pregnant (also by different and never around fathers), and her 15 year son just left home to attend a military prep school on public funding. That's one non-working 40 yo, four non-working teenagers and one baby living in their own $450,000 house and one teenager going to an expensive prep school all on public funding. Those of you who don't think tax-payers have a right to know who's living off our hard-earned money are more than welcome to pick up the tab and give us a refund.



Now we have established that he has no problem taking liberties with the truth.

Here is his views on the rioting in Oakland and why Obama has not been impeached....It makes you feel all warm and fuzzy for the prick.....Now there has never been a national discussion ever about removing Obama from office, so where does this come from?

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What those black people accomplished was proving what anyone with half a brain knows would happen all over the country to an even most destructive level if Obama was removed from office for being a userper, which is exactly why no Court or the Congress has done so.


Here is his view of our current President....

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Thank you for that plain, simple, and irrefutable FACT. What our milato racist POTUS's black racist AG's racist DOJ effectively did was pardon two black racist thugs who were fairly and justly convicted FELONS.

Of course, plain, simple, and irrefuteable FACTS don't matter to liberturds.


Here are racistJim's tolerant views on other religions in America...

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What's the big deal indeed? America is indeed an overwhelmingly Christian nation...75%+ Christian. And of all the world's religions Christrianity is the most accepting and tolerant of other religions. Accept it or leave.

Indeed, as they say..."When in Rome, do as the Romans."


Here racistJim defends bush's policy on immigration with this little number.....
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There ya go...this is all Bush's fault too. Never in my 67 years have I known a POTUS and their supporters to blame so many things for so long on their immediate predecessor.


Here is his explanation for the cause of he mortgage crisis....Where he blames the predecessors as well as African Americans for the mortgage crisis.

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Researching the "Community Reinvestment Act" ("CRA") would prove that the mortgage collapse was caused primarly by the Democratic Party (under Carter then Clinton) enacting legislation which strongly encouraged (at risk of having their "FDIC" approval revoked) banks et al mortage loan institutions to make sub-prime mortage loans (often with no income verification and no down payment) to low income people (primarily African-Americans) virtually at the drop of a hat.


By the way...The majority of all people that received sub-prime mortgages happen to have been white.

He has said that Obama should be deported to Kenya. He advocates "shooting illegal immigrants" that come into this country.

It goes on and on with this piece of shit.

Fuck RacistJim.




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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 9:45:58 AM   
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It's going to cost most people more thanks to Obamacare.


How?

Point that out to me.


How can it not?

Explain to me how Obamacare can cover the 20 Million +/- currently uninsured, the majority of whom Obama claimed can't afford healthcare and therefore Obamacare would have to cover free, without raising the cost to the 280 Million +/- currently insured?


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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 9:48:38 AM   
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Was it this sort of research that led you to tell all of us that it was conservatives who freed the black man from slavery?
And yes I am still waiting for an explanation to that rediculouly stupid statement!


I won't be holding my breath waiting for you to research that absolutely factual statement.

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 10:03:49 AM   
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And lots of people vote based on no value higher than their own selfish self-interest. I don't know that that is something to be proud of, Julia.

Lots of other people vote based on a bill of goods, without an ounce of good faith behind the lie they believe in. People who actually thought the Dems would end the war in Iraq back in '06, for example. Or took the leap of faith to vote for the guy who got the big job.


Exactly. And an ever-increasing majority of people who voted for Obama on no value higher than their own self-interest have gotten exactly what they voted for...thrown under the bus by someone with no value higher than his own self-interest.


And how was bush different? You racist piece of crap.


Well, one way Bush was, and still is, different from Obama is that Bush didn't put all of his records under lock and key so no one could find out whence he came. You Obamabot POS.

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 10:07:02 AM   
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And lots of people vote based on no value higher than their own selfish self-interest. I don't know that that is something to be proud of, Julia.

Lots of other people vote based on a bill of goods, without an ounce of good faith behind the lie they believe in. People who actually thought the Dems would end the war in Iraq back in '06, for example. Or took the leap of faith to vote for the guy who got the big job.


Exactly. And an ever-increasing majority of people who voted for Obama on no value higher than their own self-interest have gotten exactly what they voted for...thrown under the bus by someone with no value higher than his own self-interest.


And how was bush different? You racist piece of crap.


Look, I'm still feeling out people's personalities, so forgive my lack of understanding. 

Why do you do that?  Maybe I'm missing multiple posts over multiple years, but why do you keep claiming that Jim is a racist?  I'm not trying to be cute or funny or anything.  I genuinely want to understand. 


It's really very simple to understand. Anyone who didn't vote for, or did but now opposes, Obama is a racist.

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 10:08:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		Actually, freeing the slaves was a very liberal and progressive move on the part of the abolitionists, as slavery had been the accepted norm since the founding of the United States, therefore a very conservative mindset.

The abolitionist movement was therefore progressive and very liberal for that time in American History. If you would study history and ACTUALLY read what is written you would know that.

Making the assumption that just because it was the Republican Party that supported Lincoln that means it was conservative is just plain stupid. Over the course of History, the Republican party has moved from the left to center, then to the right.

The conservative Republican party is a product of recent history, not a long standing dogma.

Go back to school.

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 10:12:13 AM   
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No, you’re doing it with comments like this and other right wingers and Fox news do the same thing. It’s an old tactic to get more Repuglicans elected and goes back to George Wallace.
"Fear black men elect a Repug to protect whites."

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Hes made us into a nation of racists, obviously.




Yes, Obama has made us into a nation of racists. He has had anti-white racist chip on his shoulder his entire life.


You are so full of shit. You were a racist long before Obama got into office. Do I need to pull up all of your prior ignorant, racist and hate filled posts of the past?

You are an awful human being.


Go ahead, please do pull up just one of my prior to Obama annoucing his candidacy for POTUS racist and/or hate filled posts of the past.

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 10:16:20 AM   
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And lots of people vote based on no value higher than their own selfish self-interest. I don't know that that is something to be proud of, Julia.

Lots of other people vote based on a bill of goods, without an ounce of good faith behind the lie they believe in. People who actually thought the Dems would end the war in Iraq back in '06, for example. Or took the leap of faith to vote for the guy who got the big job.


Exactly. And an ever-increasing majority of people who voted for Obama on no value higher than their own self-interest have gotten exactly what they voted for...thrown under the bus by someone with no value higher than his own self-interest.


And how was bush different? You racist piece of crap.


Bush was 1000 times worse. At least Obama can walk and chew gum at the same time and I do not cringe every time I see him speak. In fact I love listening to Obama....

Love listening to Obama got you thrown under the bus by Obama. LOL

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 10:23:56 AM   
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Love listening to Obama got you thrown under the bus by Obama. LOL


I do not think I got "thrown under the bus" by Obama. I do think Obama is better than any republican that could challenge him. I voted for Obama in the California primary right before I changed parties. I like Obama. I think there is hope for his presidency. I find those who adamantly oppose him are often doing so out of racial fears.

From your posts people are not wrongly classifying you as a racist because you "oppose Obama"... but for the reasons they have eloquently posted on this thread... Now I can understand no one wants to wear that label "racist", but hey, if the shoe fits, dude, you better wear it...

Notice something? I have been attacked by both left and right on this thread because I am politically radical. I expect being targeted, in fact I am used to it, nothing that has been leveled at me here shocks me, some people have to get personal because they can't debate their way out of a paper sack....like you, for example... but it comes with announcing a political opinion in 2010. Here is the deal though, no one, not one person, accused me of being a "racist" because I do not know if I can support Obama... so your post that anyone who doesn't support Obama gets labelled a racist is WRONG.



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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 10:29:58 AM   
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I was a legacy registered Independant until not one Democratic Senator voted "Guilty" on any of the three "Articles of Impeachment" against William Jefferson Clinton even though ample evidence was presented that he had perjured himself at least twice to two different courts thereby proving he was also guilty of obstructing justice.

I don't believe I'm the only Republican here.

Obama's approval rating couldn't have fallen to where it is unless many Democrats who voted for him have subsequently deserted him.

Imagine that.


Why did that impeachment hearing ever come up?

Republicans spent years combing through Clinton's history in a political crusade to discredit him.

The same thing that is going on now with Obama.

So let me ask you, was the attempted impeachment of Clinton worth the cost in monetary terms (I believe it was $80 million), the cost to the country in terms of prestige, or the cost in credibility of the Republican Party?

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 10:32:52 AM   
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Was it this sort of research that led you to tell all of us that it was conservatives who freed the black man from slavery?
And yes I am still waiting for an explanation to that rediculouly stupid statement!


I won't be holding my breath waiting for you to research that absolutely factual statement.
Fuck you,no one asked you to "hold your breath(but if the feeling strikes...go for it!)all I asked was for you to defend/explain your assinine statement.
But let me help you out here...you have jumped to this erroneous conclusion based on the fact that it was a Republican President( Abe Lincoln..I will no longer assume you have any intelligence at all and will try to connect all of the dots for you)who authored the Emancipation Proclamation.
So far so good.....but here is where you went off the rails....That particular Republican President could in no way be construed(even by an idiot like you) as a conservative(by the way conservatism is an ideology...not a fucking political party)as a matter of fact the mistaken belief that he was an abolitionist led directly to the fucking Civil War.
If the South had thought him a conservative...than they would have had nothing to fear from his election.
Could you be a bigger asshole now becomes the question of the day.....and I am back to wondering (only half in jest Rich) how the fuck we let one so ill-informed about his countries own history contribute in any fucking way to the election of the leaders who will shepard us into our future.
Un-fucking-believable !

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 10:34:27 AM   
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Was it this sort of research that led you to tell all of us that it was conservatives who freed the black man from slavery?
And yes I am still waiting for an explanation to that rediculouly stupid statement!


I won't be holding my breath waiting for you to research that absolutely factual statement.


Well, since John Quincy Adams introduced the first bill in 1839 and it was roundly ignored, at the very least we would have to charactarize it as they were against it before they were for it.

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 10:36:01 AM   
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Actually, freeing the slaves was a very liberal and progressive move on the part of the abolitionists, as slavery had been the accepted norm since the founding of the United States, therefore a very conservative mindset.

The abolitionist movement was therefore progressive and very liberal for that time in American History. If you would study history and ACTUALLY read what is written you would know that.

Making the assumption that just because it was the Republican Party that supported Lincoln that means it was conservative is just plain stupid. Over the course of History, the Republican party has moved from the left to center, then to the right.

The conservative Republican party is a product of recent history, not a long standing dogma.

Go back to school.
Sorry jlf,I posted my,far less polite response,prior to seeing yours....but what the fuck I deserved the right to explain to the idiot....just why he is an idiot.After all it was me that asked the question....lol.

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 10:38:40 AM   
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Love listening to Obama got you thrown under the bus by Obama. LOL


I do not think I got "thrown under the bus" by Obama. I do think Obama is better than any republican that could challenge him. I voted for Obama in the California primary right before I changed parties. I like Obama. I think there is hope for his presidency. I find those who adamantly oppose him are often doing so out of racial fears.

From your posts people are not wrongly classifying you as a racist because you "oppose Obama"... but for the reasons they have eloquently posted on this thread... Now I can understand no one wants to wear that label "racist", but hey, if the shoe fits, dude, you better wear it...

Notice something? I have been attacked by both left and right on this thread because I am politically radical. I expect being targeted, in fact I am used to it, nothing that has been leveled at me here shocks me, some people have to get personal because they can't debate their way out of a paper sack....like you, for example... but it comes with announcing a political opinion in 2010. Here is the deal though, no one, not one person, accused me of being a "racist" because I do not know if I can support Obama... so your post that anyone who doesn't support Obama gets labelled a racist is WRONG.


 Well put Julia. This particular wing-nut almost makes sanity seem lucid.
Almost.

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 10:41:25 AM   
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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 10:45:25 AM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T65iCNO0umw

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 10:48:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		Not sure I want to play this game with you Rich....if you took my call for voting rights based on intelligence criteria even half serious......you haven't been following the conversation.Nor noticed my complete distaste for the idiot I was speaking to...again I am going to go out on a limb and make the assumption that ,after some 8,000 posts most of which you are familiar with,you know better than this.
It wasn't serious and it is an indefensible position...a rediculous proposition posited towards an asshole....we both know it so why are you pursuing it?

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RE: Whites, Independents Deserting Obama... - 7/22/2010 10:48:35 AM   
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Perhaps the cost?


Now I have no preexisting conditions, and it is still a few hundred a month to purchase insurance...


Then drop the maternity coverage.



May I point out, after a quick look at quotes for myself, male non-smoker starts at 134.00 a month, and that is with a $10,000 deductible. I cant afford 10 grand in medical bills before coverage starts.

Can you?

I'm paying $348 a month for Blue Cross with a 10k deductible which I can't really afford but which I can cover, and had to this year with 3 days in Hospital for IV antibiotics and tests so I could keep my foot. That's money I needed to continue my retirement, since I'm disabled, pre-existing, and essentially unemployable despite a BS.

I still want single payer and the rightards who call it "socialized medicine" can suck my sphincter.

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