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RE: Should your U.S. Senator own a $7 M Yacht? - 7/23/2010 2:19:02 PM   
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Julia, John Kerry never met a Tax he didn't like! For "YOU" to pay!
Of course people like him think they're "immune" from paying taxes!
"HE" doesn't even "own" that yacht, some "LLC" or another does.


Kerry is not involved with Mass. taxes, that is a state issue, and he is a federally elected official....



Ah,...Julia, he lives on Beacon Hill in Boston at,....."Louisburg Square." The place where he had a fire hydrant removed from in front of his posh townhome and had it moved to in front of one of his neighbors!
Those are the kinds of things that....."the beautiful people".....do!
Howie Carr on the radio in Boston (WRKO-680 am) said that Kerry should re-name the yacht from the "Isabel" to (in his best Thurston Howell the 3rd voice)
the "Do as I say, not as I do."

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RE: Should your U.S. Senator own a $7 M Yacht? - 7/23/2010 2:19:59 PM   
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If I had the money, and I wanted a Yacht, I would get one...

Here I keep seeing conservatives attacking rich liberals for the crime of having money.... I thought that was what liberals do....too fucking funny


Lumping all conservatives (if popeye is even a conservative) together, eh?


Can someone point out where I said "all" conservatives in that statement? Perhaps my eyesight is failing, but I just can't see where I said anything about "all" conservatives up there in that quotey-box-thangy

Edited to add, you also claimed I apologized to you earlier, when I hadn't.... perhaps it is your eyesight that is off





Its implied by the lack of a qualifier.


Wilbur, thats talking outta both sides of your horses ass.  You came all unglued over that shit on other threads, saying that you were not saying the stupid shit you were saying because someone left a word out.   Same or different thread where you thought I was pathetic, because I didn't care to understand your misuse of irony as irony.

Of course, this post, besides sarcasm also drips in irony. My bet you will not see the irony here.

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RE: Should your U.S. Senator own a $7 M Yacht? - 7/23/2010 2:20:04 PM   
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Oh yeah, we've really "hit the jackpot" with people who went to "HARVARD" and "YALE" haven't we?


I am going to assume you are mocking the entire Ivy League.

Harvard University

John Adams
John Quincy Adams
Rutherford B. Hayes (Law School)
Theodore Roosevelt
Franklin D. Roosevelt
John F. Kennedy
George W. Bush (Business School)

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George H. W. Bush
Bill Clinton
George W. Bush

Princeton University

James Madison
Woodrow Wilson
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RE: Should your U.S. Senator own a $7 M Yacht? - 7/23/2010 2:20:24 PM   
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If I had the money, and I wanted a Yacht, I would get one...

Here I keep seeing conservatives attacking rich liberals for the crime of having money.... I thought that was what liberals do....too fucking funny


Lumping all conservatives (if popeye is even a conservative) together, eh?


Can someone point out where I said "all" conservatives in that statement? Perhaps my eyesight is failing, but I just can't see where I said anything about "all" conservatives up there in that quotey-box-thangy

Edited to add, you also claimed I apologized to you earlier, when I hadn't.... perhaps it is your eyesight that is off





Its implied by the lack of a qualifier.


Wilburrr thinks if you don't respond to one of his inane comments then he has somehow won. Or that his point was valid in the first place. Most people left that mentality behind in grade school.

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RE: Should your U.S. Senator own a $7 M Yacht? - 7/23/2010 2:21:24 PM   
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He doesn't represent me. I live in Illinois. He represents people who keep voting for him.

This is what bothers me about term limits. We are asking congress to save us from congress.

How many people pay any attention to what their Representatives do? How many even know their names?

How about phone numbers?, email addresses?

It is easy to blame John Kerry for being a rich guy. If the people of his district or in his case the state don't like him, they can vote him out.


Absolutely true. But until they do, he's as much my business as he is theirs, because he's as much my problem as he is theirs. They're electing him to make decisions not just on their behalf but on my behalf as well. And as one of the people directly affected by the decisions he makes, I'm entitled to not like it and to bitch about it.


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RE: Should your U.S. Senator own a $7 M Yacht? - 7/23/2010 2:22:22 PM   
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LOL... ok.. point taken..:)

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RE: Should your U.S. Senator own a $7 M Yacht? - 7/23/2010 2:22:48 PM   
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Wilburrr thinks if you don't respond to one of his inane comments then he has somehow won. Or that his point was valid in the first place. Most people left that mentality behind in grade school.


yeah, he thought it was really funny that I would "admit" to be looking for a kinky mate on a site intended for this purpose on the Michael Brown thread....

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RE: Should your U.S. Senator own a $7 M Yacht? - 7/23/2010 2:22:54 PM   
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If I had the money, and I wanted a Yacht, I would get one...

Here I keep seeing conservatives attacking rich liberals for the crime of having money.... I thought that was what liberals do....too fucking funny


Julia, he's not just a "rich liberal" he's a U.S. Senator.
How many of his constituants have lost their homes in the last year. Do you really think this is a good thing to be doing in this "depression?"

I don't recollect Bush selling his ranch and giving the money to the needy when he broke the global economy back in '08.
Or do different rules apply to Kerry because he's a liberal?

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RE: Should your U.S. Senator own a $7 M Yacht? - 7/23/2010 2:23:45 PM   
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Are we reading the same thing?


Hard to say! I'm discussing the question of relevance, and you seem to be discussing the matter in terms of definition. So maybe not.


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RE: Should your U.S. Senator own a $7 M Yacht? - 7/23/2010 2:24:05 PM   
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Thinking about it, a true sense of noblesse oblige would require Kerry to cut back as his constituents are having to.

However, since Massachusetts isn't one of the states that had a meltdown in the financial mess of late, and since I assume (!) there's a lot of money in MA, maybe he is operating within n. oblige.


Hlen, ever been to Brocton, Lowel or Lawrence Mass?

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RE: Should your U.S. Senator own a $7 M Yacht? - 7/23/2010 2:24:13 PM   
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Ah,...Julia, he lives on Beacon Hill in Boston at,....."Louisburg Square." The place where he had a fire hydrant removed from in front of his posh townhome and had it moved to in front of one of his neighbors!
Those are the kinds of things that....."the beautiful people".....do!


Man, I wanna be one of those people.... I am certainly not down on them...

Just me, etc

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RE: Should your U.S. Senator own a $7 M Yacht? - 7/23/2010 2:25:21 PM   
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If I had the money, and I wanted a Yacht, I would get one...

Here I keep seeing conservatives attacking rich liberals for the crime of having money.... I thought that was what liberals do....too fucking funny


Julia, he's not just a "rich liberal" he's a U.S. Senator.
How many of his constituants have lost their homes in the last year. Do you really think this is a good thing to be doing in this "depression?"

If no one spends any money the economy certainly won't improve. Anyone actually concerned with the economy would be pleased to hear about this sort of purchase it will have direct and indirect economic impact far in excess of the amount spent on the yacht.

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RE: Should your U.S. Senator own a $7 M Yacht? - 7/23/2010 2:27:08 PM   
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Just so people* know (fast reply, it isn't aimed at you, julia) it's "noblesse oblige".
*(The independent sailorman who likes his spinach, mostly.)

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RE: Should your U.S. Senator own a $7 M Yacht? - 7/23/2010 2:27:11 PM   
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f no one spends any money the economy certainly won't improve. Anyone actually concerned with the economy would be pleased to hear about this sort of purchase it will have direct and indirect economic impact far in excess of the amount spent on the yacht.


I made the point that yachts need crews.... it was lost on him

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RE: Should your U.S. Senator own a $7 M Yacht? - 7/23/2010 2:27:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Jeffff


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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Oh yeah, we've really "hit the jackpot" with people who went to "HARVARD" and "YALE" haven't we?


I am going to assume you are mocking the entire Ivy League.

Harvard University

John Adams
John Quincy Adams
Rutherford B. Hayes (Law School)
Theodore Roosevelt
Franklin D. Roosevelt
John F. Kennedy
George W. Bush (Business School)

Yale University

William Howard Taft
Gerald R. Ford
George H. W. Bush
Bill Clinton
George W. Bush

Princeton University

James Madison
Woodrow Wilson
Source(s):
http://www.presidentsusa.net/collegelist
2 years ago






Jeff, sorry, I was referring to more recent presidents, both Bush's, the "Clintons", Obama.

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RE: Should your U.S. Senator own a $7 M Yacht? - 7/23/2010 2:29:51 PM   
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Just so people* know (fast reply, it isn't aimed at you, julia) it's "noblesse oblige".
*(The independent sailorman who likes his spinach, mostly.)


beware my Lèse majesté

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RE: Should your U.S. Senator own a $7 M Yacht? - 7/23/2010 2:31:39 PM   
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Thinking about it, a true sense of noblesse oblige would require Kerry to cut back as his constituents are having to.

However, since Massachusetts isn't one of the states that had a meltdown in the financial mess of late, and since I assume (!) there's a lot of money in MA, maybe he is operating within n. oblige.


Hlen, ever been to Brocton, Lowel or Lawrence Mass?

Nope. I have read of the factory girls of Lowell at the start of the industrial revolution, but have not been there.

Note I emphasized it was an assumption, and I realize the entire financial spectrum exsists in every state. I guess I should have made it more clear that what I posted was (somewhat) tongue-in-cheek.

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RE: Should your U.S. Senator own a $7 M Yacht? - 7/23/2010 2:31:45 PM   
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If I had the money, and I wanted a Yacht, I would get one...

Here I keep seeing conservatives attacking rich liberals for the crime of having money.... I thought that was what liberals do....too fucking funny


Julia, he's not just a "rich liberal" he's a U.S. Senator.
How many of his constituants have lost their homes in the last year. Do you really think this is a good thing to be doing in this "depression?"

If no one spends any money the economy certainly won't improve. Anyone actually concerned with the economy would be pleased to hear about this sort of purchase it will have direct and indirect economic impact far in excess of the amount spent on the yacht.


Well he certainly spent a lot of money in Australia didn't he? Did they quit building yachts in New England?

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RE: Should your U.S. Senator own a $7 M Yacht? - 7/23/2010 2:32:34 PM   
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Wilburrr thinks if you don't respond to one of his inane comments then he has somehow won. Or that his point was valid in the first place. Most people left that mentality behind in grade school.


yeah, he thought it was really funny that I would "admit" to be looking for a kinky mate on a site intended for this purpose on the Michael Brown thread....


Funny? I said it was brave, not funny. I was complimenting you. Deal with it.

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RE: Should your U.S. Senator own a $7 M Yacht? - 7/23/2010 2:33:01 PM   
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I'm pretty sure you can google that.......

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