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RE: Should originators of False and misleading stories ... - 7/25/2010 5:51:35 PM   
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How about the originators of the story about "Iraqi weapons of mass destruction"? Or, the originators of the Obama "Change" myth?


Actually, on this point, as I pointed out in another thread, it is a case of semantics, concerning Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Were there any weapons of mass destruction found?
Yes, 500 chemical rounds containing DEGRADED mustard gas and sarin nerve agent.

Please note the word degraded.

Were these rounds useful as weapons?
Only if you were hit by them falling on you after being fired. The degraded agents were harmless as chemical weapons.

Were there any nukes found in Iraqi arsenals?
No, the Israeli Air Force disabled the Iraqi reactor needed to manufacture weapons grade materials in 1981 and it was never repaired, it was completely destroyed by Allied forces during the 1991 gulf war.

As I said, semantics.

Of course, the 500 metric tons of yellowcake left over were shipped to Canada after the invasion ...

And the justification was to prevent Saddam's acquisition of WoMD, if I recall.

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RE: Should originators of False and misleading stories ... - 7/25/2010 5:52:52 PM   
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And a truth czar overseeing some sort of ministry of truth could be given new powers over the freedom of speech in order to ensure that everything thats said or written is government approved.


We're not talking about George Orwell's 1984 here by insisting that our news sources report news in an unbiased manner.  Don't be stupid by dreaming up idiotic scenarios that fit your paranoid delusions about the left wing.  All that is right wing propaganda and they have really gone out of their way to make some very absurd comparisons. 


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RE: Should originators of False and misleading stories ... - 7/25/2010 5:59:25 PM   
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We're not talking about George Orwell's 1984 here by insisting that our news sources report news in an unbiased manner.  Don't be stupid by dreaming up idiotic scenarios that fit your paranoid delusions about the left wing.  All that is right wing propaganda and they have really gone out of their way to make some very absurd comparisons. 




Wow. What an incredibly ignorant (or blindly partisan and arrogant) thing to say. I've already mentioned Dan Rather in the thread, too.

Say, JLF. What sort of bullshit filled internet sites are you living in to not know any history at all of Iraq's use of WMD, long before Bush II needed an excuse? Should we close those down too?



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RE: Should originators of False and misleading stories ... - 7/25/2010 6:10:30 PM   
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On the other hand, what did the dumbshits who called the Laredo PD hope to accomplish?


It gave them something to say on the pa's thread?


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RE: Should originators of False and misleading stories ... - 7/25/2010 6:12:24 PM   
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This particular story originated with a conservative individual


Is there any subject that you don't drag lib vs con into?


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RE: Should originators of False and misleading stories ... - 7/25/2010 6:19:10 PM   
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RE: Should originators of False and misleading stories ... - 7/25/2010 6:19:32 PM   
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Wow. What an incredibly ignorant (or blindly partisan and arrogant) thing to say. I've already mentioned Dan Rather in the thread, too.


No it isn't.  And since I fail to see anything constructive come from that side, ever, I'm going to say that what I said is right on target.  If anyone is working towards an Orwellian type government, it's the neocons.  Either that, or they're working towards trying to make the rapture happen. 

Why don't you and Sanity () get a room.

Gosh, y'all make me feel mean, y'all are really bringing out my insult sadist.


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RE: Should originators of False and misleading stories ... - 7/25/2010 6:20:42 PM   
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You really need to take the darling out of your screen name., you aren't fooling anyone anyway


Go fuck yourself.


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RE: Should originators of False and misleading stories ... - 7/25/2010 6:22:31 PM   
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The question is, should the person or persons who originated the story be held on criminal charges for the problems they caused to local law enforcement agencies with the shear volume of calls relating to the story?


As much as I love the idea of Dan Rather having spent a couple decades in jail, and everyone at MSNBC going to prison: no.
Good luck with that pesky little 1st Amrndment thing.

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RE: Should originators of False and misleading stories ... - 7/25/2010 6:24:42 PM   
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no matter how fraudulent or false indicating something happening in real time is protected by free speech?


"Congress shall make no law....."
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RE: Should originators of False and misleading stories ... - 7/25/2010 6:30:03 PM   
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Vehemently, no less. News sources need to stick to unadulterated, unvarnished, unmitigated facts.


There went every news source in the country.

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RE: Should originators of False and misleading stories ... - 7/25/2010 6:31:25 PM   
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RE: Should originators of False and misleading stories ... - 7/25/2010 6:34:12 PM   
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Vehemently, no less. News sources need to stick to unadulterated, unvarnished, unmitigated facts.


There went every news source in the country.


Except of course for Fox.

They are fair and balanced.

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RE: Should originators of False and misleading stories ... - 7/25/2010 6:38:44 PM   
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Vehemently, no less. News sources need to stick to unadulterated, unvarnished, unmitigated facts.


There went every news source in the country.


Except of course for Fox.

They are fair and balanced.



Well- they'd at least have to ban Alan Colmes.

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RE: Should originators of False and misleading stories ... - 7/25/2010 6:49:56 PM   
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Point proven, thanks


What did you expect with a comment like that?  I'm kind of damned if I do and damned if I don't, aren't I?  I prefer to defend myself.  So, I think I will.  You're initial statement was quite ugly and was met with the ugly response it deserved.  I might add that your statement was also unprovoked and unsolicited.


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RE: Should originators of False and misleading stories ... - 7/25/2010 6:52:28 PM   
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You really need to take the darling out of your screen name., you aren't fooling anyone anyway


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RE: Should originators of False and misleading stories ... - 7/25/2010 7:33:10 PM   
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If anyone is working towards an Orwellian type government, it's the neocons. 



Ok. Moving from ignorance to stupidity then.

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RE: Should originators of False and misleading stories ... - 7/25/2010 7:40:04 PM   
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RE: Should originators of False and misleading stories ... - 7/25/2010 7:43:03 PM   
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Ok. Moving from ignorance to stupidity then.

Have a great night, DS.


You're the one that made such a suggestion in the first place.

ETA:  Pardon me, it was Sanity, either way, it was someone on your side that brought that up.


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RE: Should originators of False and misleading stories ... - 7/25/2010 7:59:02 PM   
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