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RE: What would it take to actually secure the border wi... - 7/27/2010 10:13:09 PM   
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RE: What would it take to actually secure the border wi... - 7/27/2010 10:17:11 PM   
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The desire to, imo.


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RE: What would it take to actually secure the border wi... - 7/27/2010 10:45:34 PM   
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I have said that America does not stop at its border, that wherever there is an American, there is America.



I have always said that wherever an American is standing on a sunny day there is a shadow.


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RE: What would it take to actually secure the border wi... - 7/28/2010 5:51:30 AM   
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RE: What would it take to actually secure the border wi... - 7/28/2010 5:57:49 AM   
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How many of you folks are unemployed?  How many of you are loading your cars for az to get a job mowing lawns and trimming cacti, or are heading out to watsonville to cut lettuce?

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RE: What would it take to actually secure the border wi... - 7/28/2010 6:05:40 AM   
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This humidity is wearing my ass out. What does it pay to trim cacti?

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RE: What would it take to actually secure the border wi... - 7/28/2010 6:07:38 AM   
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Seems all of these "independants"have some whack job whispering in their ears.Pops has chosen Howie over Rush and Beck.


Well if I have to listen to one of those three to consider myself an independent, I think I will stick to considering myself conservative.


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RE: What would it take to actually secure the border wi... - 7/28/2010 6:10:26 AM   
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That because they don't grow good pot in the North duh.


Without a doubt that is the most ignorant thing I have ever heard in my life.


Then you must not read your own posts


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RE: What would it take to actually secure the border wi... - 7/28/2010 6:13:32 AM   
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I would bet that everyone on this thread has patronized a business that employed illegals within the past 24 hours.


That is awesome. How much money did I just win?


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RE: What would it take to actually secure the border wi... - 7/28/2010 6:16:16 AM   
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3. Deport all Republicans to Mexico.


I have never thought of you as a bigot before, so I either don't read your posts very closely or you are just coming out of the closet. Which is it?


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RE: What would it take to actually secure the border wi... - 7/28/2010 6:31:23 AM   
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Since then our policy toward the Mexicans has been conflicted. Sometimes we want them; sometimes we don't. During the Great Depression we deported 500,000 Mexican-Americans.


Actually the number was more than a million american citizens of latino heritage. The punch line was that when wwII came along the u.s. govt sent all of the draft age males a draft notice which 100% of responded to by comming back and putting on a uniform to protect a country that threw them out and expropriated their property.


Really? Jeez, that's interesting. Didn't know that. Thanks.

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RE: What would it take to actually secure the border wi... - 7/28/2010 6:33:44 AM   
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We should bring the troops home from Iraq/Afghanistan and invade 75 miles into Mexican territory and set up shop.


Besides violating the soverignty of mexico and the u.n. charter wouldn't it also make all of those mexicans in that, approximately 150,000 square mile, zone american citizens?


That is like saying everyone that is in Iraq and Afghanistan now are american citizens...

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RE: What would it take to actually secure the border wi... - 7/28/2010 6:57:49 AM   
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Also, with all the Troops already back or returning by next summer from Iraq (there are still 50,000 Troops in Iraq who will be brought back by July 1st according to Joe Biden) there's certainly no "shortage" of Troops that we're alreaddy "paying".
I think 30,000 up in Washington state with the 7th cav, Ft Hood must have 50-75 K, Ft. Leonard Wood in Missouri 50k, Ft Stewart Ga. 50k, and Ft Bragg in N.C. is a Huge base! It's in "Fayetteville, we used to call it "Fayettenam" when I was in the Navy because everyone there was just back from or going to Vietnam. There must be 100,000 Troops there! And all the other Army Forts throughout the country.
In many areas along that border you could have 10 soldiers watching 25 miles of border while in other areas you'd need 50-100 per mile.
Thirty thousand Troops could do it which is a drop in the bucket and who we're paying already.
One thing is for sure, if you don't walk in a minefield you won't get blown up.


Popeye; you are wayyy over the top.


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the armed forces to perform the tasks of civilian law enforcement unless explicitly
authorized. There are alternative legal authorities for deploying the National Guard, and
the precise scope of permitted activities and funds may vary with the authority exercised."

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RE: What would it take to actually secure the border wi... - 7/28/2010 7:04:55 AM   
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Not that Mexico is known for its terrorists but the fear of Islamic terrorists coming across the border with Mexicans has been a constant theme by the fence-builders since 9/11. And recently there has been a bit of a drug war between Mexican gangs going on along the border. That has become a cause for the fence-builders as well. It has been reported in the papers and on TV.


Well if you are interested in it, by all means, start a new thread.




The drug issue was brought up by Popeye back in Post #17. Try to keep up.

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Mike, do you really think we have a choice?
This past weekend they were unearthing bodies in N. Mexico of drug cartel victims. They started out at 18 then 26 then 31 then 38,.....they had to keep raising the over/under! I think they're up to 51 now last I heard.
And then yesterday Yahoo News said that the Jailors let out a bunch of prisoners, let them borrow their guns so that they could go and kill their rivals!
Mexico is a "country" in name only! It's run by the drug cartels and now they're using "I.E.D.s" remote controlled car bombs just like in Iraq and Afganistan.


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RE: What would it take to actually secure the border wi... - 7/28/2010 7:05:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Rather than doing this in onesy twosys, let's do it all up in one fell swoop, serve ourselves up a proper victory, eh?

Go to the companies round them up, as well as the officers, and take them to court sueing the living piss out of them all the way.



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RE: What would it take to actually secure the border wi... - 7/28/2010 7:24:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		We use the 30,000 troops that hopefully will soon be off the gov't payroll and on unemployment to go and harass and waterboard all of the employers that are utilizing illegals....There would be a mass exodus.


Or we use the 30,000 armed troops to "force" the unemployed, under the threat of waterboarding and torture, to go and work in a horrid environment that routinely kills illegals as they try and make there way into this country.

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RE: What would it take to actually secure the border wi... - 7/28/2010 7:29:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Or we hire popeye and he could motivate the unemployed to leave their homes and go work in a desert by reading excerpts from the Howie Carr SHow.

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RE: What would it take to actually secure the border wi... - 7/28/2010 7:31:35 AM   
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OK, now, lets get a fucking head count before we go any further here, so we know what we are dealing with.

How many of you folks are unemployed?  How many of you are loading your cars for az to get a job mowing lawns and trimming cacti, or are heading out to watsonville to cut lettuce?


I am unemployed and I want to go there. So are you going to pay for the first, last and security on my new apartment? Are you going to pay the expenses to move all my shit across the country? Are you going to pay my gas to get there? And last but not least, are you going to come here and take care of my dad, because he likes it here?


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RE: What would it take to actually secure the border wi... - 7/28/2010 7:33:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nope, and so now that we have that issue resolved, we are at exactly zero that are going to go there and get them swell fucking jobs.

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RE: What would it take to actually secure the border wi... - 7/28/2010 7:58:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		I want to go work in the desert. It has got to be better than my last job at UPS. I had to lift packages and work in an air conditioned environment.

From damn near the very first moment that I walk through the door those fuckers expected me to lift and move packages . I told those a-holes to shove that Goddam job up their ass!!!

The desert sounds nice. I hear it is very peaceful.

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