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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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Far Left Far Right

Kinda sounds like a Dr. Seuss book, doesn't it.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Red State, Blue State, One State, Two States,
I do not like electing Sam.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
There is ample information in the net about social anarchism, google is your friend at times like these, and yes, it is a movement related to left libertarianism.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
There is ample information in the net about social anarchism, google is your friend at times like these, and yes, it is a movement related to left libertarianism.

Short definition: a belief that we'll all just get along beautifully in our little communal groupings. That it is a recipe to destroy a thousand years or so of social evolution and return us to tribes, warlords and feudalism never enters the little fluffy-bunny heads.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
It is like what other libertarians advocate for, but with the added dimension of human rights and the local running of economies as an important part of it. Libertarians on the right just wanna do whatever they feel like, sorta like Ayn Rand...lol... so they dislike the leftist part of the movement...

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... got me to wondering what you think Far Left and Far Right mean. They get thrown around here a lot. The terms also get associated in a negative way with "crazy" thinking, as if the only "rational" way to think is mainstream.
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My main questions are, how do you identify? Do you think it is insulting to be labelled far left or far right? And why?

My notion of "far left" and "far right" is of people who are unwilling to think independently or critically, who accept whole some worldview and narrative full of myths, legends, certainties, slogans, shibboleths, canards, and sound bites.  They're unwilling to think independently or critically.  I suspect that many "far leftists" and "far rightists" (or "far lefties" and "far righties" if you will) are really authoritarians at heart.  Occasionally I encounter someone considered far whatever who has actually thought hard about their beliefs and positions, and continues to do so.  A person like that can be worth having a conversation with.

Many of my views would probably be considered "left" or even "far left" (depending on who's doing the considering, I guess) but others are rather more moderate or maybe even conservative.  I don't find it insulting to be categorized as left (or right), I'd just prefer not to be, as I don't particularly identify with those categories.  (The absolute worst are those "you liberals" conversations.)

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The one emotion that seems to come through from the lefties is *ANGER*. I've been attacked in here by leftists far more than rightists.
And you're right about them being unable to think "independantly" or critically! It's "their way or the highway!" If you don't agree with them you're,..."the enemy!"
They tend to be very bitter and mean spirited. Not any way I want to live my life!
I got an e-mail once comparing "conservatives" and "liberals". It said "a conservative if he doesn't like a commentator on t.v. will simply turn the channel".
A "liberal" if he doesn't like a commentater will call for him to be fired and the station taken off the air."
There's more than a little truth to that.
I'm an Independant so that means I can look at all sides of an issue and make up my own mind. I don't have to "automatically" take a position based on "politics." That way I don't have to get angry or be bitter!
The "far right" and the "far left" should get together and "Party!" They're just like each other! Only the "far right" would get screwed because they'de have to *PAY* for everything being the "capitalist bastards" that they are while the "far left" have no money and live in "The Man Cave" at their parents house.

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Eihwaz, well said!
The one emotion that seems to come through from the lefties is *ANGER*. I've been attacked in here by leftists far more than rightists.
And you're right about them being unable to think "independantly" or critically! It's "their way or the highway!" If you don't agree with them you're,..."the enemy!"
They tend to be very bitter and mean spirited. Not any way I want to live my life!
I got an e-mail once comparing "conservatives" and "liberals". It said "a conservative if he doesn't like a commentator on t.v. will simply turn the channel".
A "liberal" if he doesn't like a commentater will call for him to be fired and the station taken off the air."
There's more than a little truth to that.
I'm an Independant so that means I can look at all sides of an issue and make up my own mind. I don't have to "automatically" take a position based on "politics." That way I don't have to get angry or be bitter!
The "far right" and the "far left" should get together and "Party!" They're just like each other! Only the "far right" would get screwed because they'de have to *PAY* for everything being the "capitalist bastards" that they are while the "far left" have no money and live in "The Man Cave" at their parents house.

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DG everybody has gotta serve somebody?
Who do you serve?

If Popeye enjoys Howie Carr, let Popeye fucking enjoy listening to his Howie Carr.

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I'm an Independant so that means I can look at all sides of an issue and make up my own mind. I don't have to "automatically" take a position based on "politics." .

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DG everybody has gotta serve somebody.

Who do you serve?

If Popeye enjoys listening to Howie Carr, let Popeye fucking enjoy listening to his Howie Carr.
Given a choice between listening to you or Howie Carr, I would flip a coin.

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Another thread I was posting on started by Lady Pact made me thinking about this and got me to wondering what you think Far Left and Far Right mean. They get thrown around here a lot. The terms also get associated in a negative way with "crazy" thinking, as if the only "rational" way to think is mainstream. Which if entertaining when you consider slavery was once considered a "mainstream" institution, and women voting was considered "whacko". I am not afraid of being considered Far Left for this reason. I think of how many of my positions are becoming mainstream, like Gay Rights for example, and i have no problem with being "radical"... in fact I tend to think "moderates" do not think much outside the box, and they tend to buy in to what our media says is an okay opinion... this is considered the cultural norm, and who wants to deviate too much from that...

My main questions are, how do you identify? Do you think it is insulting to be labelled far left or far right? And why?

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Right. That goes right out the window the first morning the community manager tells the pothead to get his ass to work on time. The "leftist part," as you so innocently call it, is called authoritarianism. Perhaps the promise is of a kinder, gentler, more hippified and understanding authoritarianism, but it's still a lie.

Social anarchism is a pipedream delusion for a modern societal model.