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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

huntie, define what is win is.

Billy Jeff Clinton

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The thread is about a possible attack on Iran, are you for, or against that idea ?

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

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The thread is about a possible attack on Iran, are you for, or against that idea ?

It's difficult to imagine a situation much more dangerous than Iran with nukes.

Military action has long been the inevitable choice for any responsible American leader. As I wrote above, concerning the resources necessary:

Couple hundred pilots, some ground crews, several dozen aircraft, a few thousand bombs. 30-day deployment. Campaign rubbons for all.

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ORIGINAL: liks2plzlf

What war has the U S military lost? The U S gov. handicapped us, and they quit, but the ones who actually fought, did not loose any war

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ORIGINAL: liks2plzlf

North Korea is not in South Korea anymore, so how do you figure we lost.
North korea kicked us out of north korea


I know we inflicted far more damage on them than they did on us.

The end result was that they won and we did not


North Vietnam never entered the south until after our military left,

Since the u.s. never had troops in n. viet nam who the fuck were we fighting in the south?
I spent a couple of years in I corps and we encountered plenty of nva (north viet namese army)aso please do not run that shit down my street.


and I know are outfit never lost a battle, and they won very few anyhere. The government never allowed the field commanders do all that they requestedl lest the outcome would be different.

I watched it escalate from 50,000 men in country at one time to 500,000 men in country at one time. Johnson gave the field commanders everything they fucking asked for except nukes and they still could not prevail.

The military is not under civilian control, but government control.

I am not quite sure how to break this to you but the government in my country is civilian.


What does Custer have to do whit loosing a war?

You missed the part about him and his posse getting anihilated.
How about the time pershing went to mexico to get pancho villa....lost that one too

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ORIGINAL: liks2plzlf

The nva was in the south but there was probably more vc. The nva lost almost every battle the were in. Johnson would not allow bombing many targets in the north plus we were not allowed to persue the nva into their safe havens. Sorry the nva kicked your I corps ass, but they did not even come close to defeating the U S military.

The u.s. was in viet nam for almost 20 years and used more than 3,500,000 men. They killed millions of civilians but the end result was that they won and the u.s. military did not.

Civilians do not control the military. The chain of command recited in the mlitary, names many people who are over them, starting with the commander and cheif, and goes down the line. The government controls it so they are not civilians.

The president, the secretary of defense, the secretary of the army, the secretary of the navy and the secretary of the air force are all civilians.
I am sorry you did not know that.
The people who elect them are civilains
Custer lost a battle not the war. Ask any Native American I don't recalll us loosing the Mexican war

The mexican/american war was in 1846-48. The spanish/american war was in 1898/99. For fucks sake get a history book.
I must have gotten my history wrong. I always thought it was the north who invaded the south, and we drove them back to the 38 parallel. Even after the chinese counter attack we pushed them to the current truce line. I believe if you check the death tolls, we kicked their ass too.

Actually the last two years of the war were stalemate and it was the u.s. that sued for an truce.
You from France?

No, are you?

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ORIGINAL: liks2plzlf

What war has the U S military lost? The U S gov. handicapped us, and they quit, but the ones who actually fought, did not loose any war