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meatcleaver -> RE: submissives ~ not submissive (4/18/2006 7:40:20 AM)
I agree, most so called subs aren't submissive. They just want a so called dom to service them. They want fantasy fullfillment, an ersatz experience, the sort they masturbate over. In that situation that isn't being submissive and the dom isn't being a dom but that seems to be the way it is a lot of times and what most subs want. It's their life to do what they want with it.

subgarfield -> RE: submissives ~ not submissive (4/18/2006 7:44:17 AM)
quote: The same can be said for so called doms that disrespect a slave/sub's profile that clearly states that all emails be sent to their Sir or Ma'am.........have a feeling this thread belongs in the complaint department _____________________________ Although i've not experienced such situation, i certainly am in agreement with your comment pertaining to Dommes who disrespect.

maybemaybenot -> RE: submissives ~ not submissive (4/18/2006 7:44:33 AM)
Arpig,babyblues and mnottertail: I was trying to tell him about looking suspect, but ya'll beat me to it. If ya'll would just type slower, I would appreciate it. [8D][8D][8D] mbmbn

subgarfield -> RE: submissives ~ not submissive (4/18/2006 7:47:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: babyblues quote: ORIGINAL: subgarfield maybemaybenot, Interesting and misguided conclusions you've jumped to. In future i shall type much slower so you have time to grasp the actual context. subgarfield you wrote originally about general disrespect shown by subs (to paraphrase) and i was planning to agree with you - i have seen it myself many times in chat, on the boards, etc - until i read this post.... are you only respectful to people who agree with you? babyblues, Not true... in his unedited response his assumptions and comments as to Her wanting to see cock pics, ass pics, pec pics and overall attitude right or wrong i viewed as a flame attempt. Have no interest in such mind games and no intent to feed such. That being said the edited addition made by maybemaybenot was with sincerity and that i glady will respond to. subgarfield

maybemaybenot -> RE: submissives ~ not submissive (4/18/2006 8:05:38 AM)
My original post was not an attempt to flame anyone. My second post was not edited, it was a respose to your post to me. In both I was sincere. You do not know me, but flaming is not my style. If my use of the vernacular terms: ass and cock are what lead you to believe I was flaming, you are incorrect. This is a BDSM board. cock , ass and even cunt are used quite frequently. Gotta be a little more thick skinned IF those terms offend you. and just an FYI: I am a female, not a him. mbmbn

subgarfield -> RE: submissives ~ not submissive (4/18/2006 8:10:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot quote: ORIGINAL: subgarfield i suspect all She required was a general idea of physical attributes, .......................... why trash talk someone making such request, especially if the face is blurred or not included. So this Domme wasn't as interested in seeing a face or getting the whole picture as she was in seeing cock pics, ass pics, pec pics, etc ? She sounds like the wanker/player to me. edited to add: This Domme was on 4 days and deleted. Odd as it may sound, there are people out there who aren't comfy sending a pic to just anyone and want to at least have a few " get to know you a bit" interactions before sending a pic. A big ol red flag would go up in my world if a Dominat requested a pic with a disclaimer that face could be blanked out. < wank, wank, wank> mbmbn Viewed your original comment as smart ass in nature and responded in kind, your edited addition makes valid points. As another poster also noted four days indeed is not giving things much opportunity. Hear you when you mention sending photos is not everyones comfy zone. Although not a concern for myself i understand how it could be a red flag for others and your comment "get top know you a bit" is bang on! subgarfield

RiotGirl -> RE: submissives ~ not submissive (4/18/2006 8:14:25 AM)
i want to complain about the OP complaining and direct him to the complain thread

subgarfield -> RE: submissives ~ not submissive (4/18/2006 8:15:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arpig quote: In future i shall type much slower so you have time to grasp the actual context. And where is the respect you advocate so sincerly in this post, may I ask? And to answer your OP...because they are wannbe wankers, what else? Good point... i simply answered in context of comment received. Respect begets respect it's a two way venue... i believe that strongly! Maybemaybenot edited his post with a much less facetious reply and i responded in kind. subgarfield

subgarfield -> RE: submissives ~ not submissive (4/18/2006 8:25:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot quote: subgarfield FangsNfeet, You are so off the mark... actually you seem to portray the traits i was commenting to. quote: subgarfield maybemaybenot, Interesting and misguided conclusions you've jumped to. In future i shall type much slower so you havve time to grasp the actual context contrasted with: quote: subgarfield however a submissive should in my opinion be respectful and show respect, also sincerity for some perhaps might prove to be a novel and interesting concept. Subgarfield: This is a message board, I took the information you provided about this Domme's picture requests and gave you my opinion of what I thought. It's not personal, it's not a conclusion I expect anyone else to form, it's MY opinion. Take it or leave it. I am not offended by your remark to me, nor do I neccesarily think you are being what you claim to be complaining about. But when you start off talking about respecting others and certain behaviors and then within an hour call people down for voicing their opinion to your invitation, it "looks" suspect. And for the record, I am not saying you are suspect. Your friend may be the greatest Domme ever to have taken breath, I have no idea. I only have a snipit of what you reported and that is what info I based my post on. mbmbn mbmbn, No the Mistress i was refering to is not the greatest Domme ever or the greatest i have served, but She is sincere, with integrity and disappointed. Her situation in conjunction with other comments i have read prompted me to express myself. Your original comments as mentioned previously i viewed perhaps incorrectly as smart ass in nature and dismissed them. If they were indeed with sincerity then i do apologize. Your edited comments struck me with having greater sincerity and that is appreciated. Actually constructive dissent is actually that... constructive! subgarfield

enthralled -> RE: submissives ~ not submissive (4/18/2006 11:29:00 AM)
Maybemaybenot ... my thoughts exactly. subgarfield, From my understanding of your posts, the 'incidences' you are talking about happened via online?? If my submission is to be 'measured' based on my interactions on a message board, or if YOU measure a person's identity based on how many caps they use, how many 'Sirs' or "Maams' they insert then my guess is that, sadly, most of your experience IS via the internet. You've contradicted yourself and displayed the very 'behavior' you complained of in your intital post. quote: If one truly is not submissive or respectful why waste the time and resources of someone who is sincere. quote: a submissive should in my opinion be respectful and show respect, also sincerity for some perhaps might prove to be a novel and interesting concept. quote: i do not believe i need to show respect to everyone, but courtesy, sure unless they challenge that too. quote: you seem to portray the traits i was commenting to. Hmmm ... appeared judgemental there .... Ahhhhh ... wait ..... quote: In future i shall type much slower so you have time to grasp the actual context. There it was! .. that poise, grace, demure that we should display when interacting with dominants! Thank you for showing me the way and providing such a glimmering example of etiquette <lol> Seems that in light of your changing tone as you continued to post, that perhaps you could understand why many of us do not feel the need to be 'net-submissive'. enthralled

dave1212 -> RE: submissives ~ not submissive (4/18/2006 11:48:25 AM)
Well subgarfield, i am quite sure that all the Mistresses/Dommes and Masters/Doms on this site are quite capable and honorable of defending themselves ....[;)] I have read your profile and for a submissive you certainly do have a large collection of "toy's"...... Mmmm just an observation of course..

maybemaybenot -> RE: submissives ~ not submissive (4/18/2006 2:39:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subgarfield Maybemaybenot edited his post with a much less facetious reply and i responded in kind. subgarfield Viva La Diffence !! I do not see my original post as facetious at all. The editing was added as further reasons why I saw/see this person as a wanker/wannabe. Truth be known, the " odd as it may sound " part of the editing was a titch facetious, but more for emphasis. Anyway, subgarfield..... no harm, no foul. Now stop calling me him/he. [8D] mbmbn I'm an East Coast kinda girl, and often times I just spit it out as I see it.

FangsNfeet -> RE: submissives ~ not submissive (4/18/2006 2:40:34 PM)
If you want respect, you have to earn it. It dosen't come free served on a silver plater. By earning it, it sometimes means that you have to start at the bottom putting up with a Mistress testing you in the beginning.

MstrFury -> RE: submissives ~ not submissive (4/18/2006 3:21:59 PM)
as a pretend Dominant...I'll just throw this out...keep in mind...this is just my little flea of an opinion... online is ok if you want to think is an end to a means...but you suggest the events as having happened to someone else...so what's the problem...she didn't like what was happening to her and took the action she felt was right for her.....world wide web....smacks to me of a whole lot of people with a whole lot of different ways of expression....like it or not...you get what's out here... I'm sure ..without taking a poll on this one....everyone who's ever come online...has at one time or another been offended in some way..shape..or form......survival says...don't whine or complain...be adult and realize what we open ourselfs up to...and deal with it... but then again I'm just a flea looking for something warm to hitch a ride and grab a meal...

subgarfield -> RE: submissives ~ not submissive (4/18/2006 3:54:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dave1212 Well subgarfield, i am quite sure that all the Mistresses/Dommes and Masters/Doms on this site are quite capable and honorable of defending themselves ....[;)] I have read your profile and for a submissive you certainly do have a large collection of "toy's"...... Mmmm just an observation of course.. Yes, as adults we should be able to fend for ourselves if need be; i was disheartened She threw in the towel at 'collarme' after only a few days. She considering it a wasteful venture with players and wankers. In reading i see other Dommes have made mention with the same but to their credit they continue on and i assume with patience to seperate the wheat from the chaff. 'Arpig' i believe hit the nail on the head with a insightful reply i find myself in agreement with. Collection of toys is a little more elaborate than listed and stems from a combination of online servitude over the years and a few curious vanilla encounters and for a short period a livi-in play partner. As for the Wand it was recently purchased as a result of misrepresentation of electro play that did not transpire a few times... unless with the incident at SilverCage where the house Mistress produced a vibrating egg instead of the requested Tens Unit. Sheeesh!!! Mistress Rattan and i experienced a similar disappointment with a house Mistress at Mistress Patricia Marsh House of Domination in Toronto(awesome facility with very impressive assortment of toys). The wand has been a hit and thus far everyone is intrigued and loves it. Next on the list is a remote Eros Tek Unit which should be great for public play :-) subgarfield

subgarfield -> RE: submissives ~ not submissive (4/18/2006 4:09:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MstrFury online is ok if you want to think is an end to a means...but you suggest the events as having happened to someone else...so what's the problem...she didn't like what was happening to her and took the action she felt was right for her.....world wide web....smacks to me of a whole lot of people with a whole lot of different ways of expression....like it or not...you get what's out here... You are right and She did exactlty that... exercised Her option and did what She felt was most productive for Herself. The curiosity for me in reading other comments by Dommes and also with awareness in Her particular percentages is why do so many self professed subs seem to top from the bottom and tend to portray traits which are not submissive. Other than the wanker aspect i'm genuinely curious if there are other reasons why one would portray themselves as something they are not and waste someone elses time, or respond to ads which clearly do not pertain to them such as ads explicitly stating 'No Males Need Apply' or 'Not looking For Male Slaves', etc., etc. subgarfield

windchymes -> RE: submissives ~ not submissive (4/18/2006 4:19:27 PM)
Should I start CPR on the horse?[:D]

catize -> RE: submissives ~ not submissive (4/18/2006 4:26:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subgarfield A new Mistress had Her profile on collarme and deleted it after four days due to primarily a few idiotic posts, subgarfield Impatience and petulance, mmmmmm, certainly the characteristics I look for in a dominant!

Proprietrix -> RE: submissives ~ not submissive (4/18/2006 4:30:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: windchymes Should I start CPR on the horse?[:D] Necro-equestrian-flagellation is my kink.

Proprietrix -> RE: submissives ~ not submissive (4/18/2006 4:38:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subgarfield i'm genuinely curious if there are other reasons why one would portray themselves as something they are not and waste someone elses time, or respond to ads which clearly do not pertain to them such as ads explicitly stating 'No Males Need Apply' or 'Not looking For Male Slaves', etc., I don't think any of us know the answer to this. It's annoying for most people. I wish I had something more to offer, but I just don't. Maybe just concentrate on being the best sub you can be and let wankers be wankers and posers be posers.

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