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what is sub frenzy? - 7/28/2010 6:53:58 PM   
KillerKitten


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Status: offline 		i apologize in advance if this has already been covered (i did look lol), but all i found were references to sub frenzy, but nothing on what it IS. Can anyone explain this to me? Thanks!
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RE: what is sub frenzy? - 7/28/2010 7:51:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Generally I've used the term loosely, but usually refering to when a submissive gets her first taste of power exchange, or her first taste of it after not experiencing it for awhile, and tends to drop into this very 'pleasing' mannerism to get more. It's not a willful act really, it's just an inherant response to the dominance you crave. Unfortunately it usually means giving up good judgement in favor of 'chasing the dragon' so to speak. A lot of times subs won't see it in themselves but others will notice it in them when they suddenly become extreamly willing to please any dominants of prospective status to find that thrill of power exchange again.

If I'm a bit off in my terminology forgive me I'm sure someone here will have a more definitive answer.

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RE: what is sub frenzy? - 7/28/2010 8:01:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is from the Literotica dictionary, but I saw the same exact definition in two other kinky dictionaries from a google search:

"Sub Frenzy: A very strong, sometimes overwhelming, desire to find a dominant partner or to become immersed in BDSM-related activities, sometimes seen in people who identify strongly as submissive, particularly people who have either just newly discovered their submissive side or who have not partaken in BDSM-related activities for a long time. People in the grip of sub frenzy may sometimes make unwise or unsafe choices."

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RE: what is sub frenzy? - 7/28/2010 8:06:35 PM   
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RE: what is sub frenzy? - 7/28/2010 8:29:42 PM   
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What blueicing said. I have to say, I conducted myself like a totally sex-crazed, submission crazed, promiscuous maniac when I had fallen prey to the dreaded sub frenzy for the first few months after I discovered bdsm. I really WAS submitting to just about Anyone that appeared to be a prospective Dominant for me. A friend of mine told me how I'd been acting & I didn't believe it. Then one day, as I was waking up in the morning and just thinking about things, the realization hit ME what I'd been doing and I was SO humiliated. And NOT in a good way. I was absolutely mortified when I realized how I'd been acting. Sub frenzy is not a good thing. It may feel good at the time, but it's really not a good thing. It makes people do lots of stupid things and use very bad judgment. As soon as I realized what I'd been doing and the impact of it, I snapped out of it, took myself and got a complete set of STD tests (thank Goddess they all turned out clean. Very lucky.), and stopped my promiscuity PRONTO.

~sweetsub~

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RE: what is sub frenzy? - 7/28/2010 9:58:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sub frenzy is the rush of finding the lifestyle to a degree which is way too eager to please and serve and not learn enough to know who you give that to may not have your best interests in mind. When a new sub comes online say here on CM,with the shiny new account,the meat marketers begin the dance of the seven bullchyts to get the subs attention. She feels enamoured and yes Siring anything that swings his manhood in her direction and she jumps far too quickly.
i had been somewhat knowledgable coming here but even i Sirred yes Sirred etc an awful lot more than people earned. i also had a few playdates which i learned from but would not repeat the same had i not been new and naive. i have seen subs owned in days happy as a lark,having not a cue that a good Master/dominate/Mistress/Domme is choosy who they desire to take the time to train and own. Some may work,but most do not,and the subdrop thing is a whole nother story ~ jewels

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RE: what is sub frenzy? - 7/29/2010 6:31:48 AM   
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RE: what is sub frenzy? - 7/29/2010 6:56:04 AM   
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quote:

i apologize in advance if this has already been covered (i did look lol), but all i found were references to sub frenzy, but nothing on what it IS. Can anyone explain this to me? Thanks!
KK [/quote

kk,


In reading the coments so far, there appears to be a notion that subfrenzy cannot be control and that it is a behavior style that moves from D to D.
I disagree! It is a mind control element wherein the sub can allow himself/herself to "lose it" for that particular interaction wherein they simply want/need more of what is happening to their mind/body.

CP

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RE: what is sub frenzy? - 7/29/2010 7:26:00 AM   
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I don't know, but I hope I can gain that ability with a few more XP.

Doh ho ho. 300 exp awarded for that one!


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RE: what is sub frenzy? - 7/29/2010 8:36:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Remember what happens when a teenage girl first discovers boys? Same thing, with BDSM thrown in.


Yup.
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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince
In reading the coments so far, there appears to be a notion that subfrenzy cannot be control and that it is a behavior style that moves from D to D.
I disagree! It is a mind control element wherein the sub can allow himself/herself to "lose it" for that particular interaction wherein they simply want/need more of what is happening to their mind/body.

CP

I think if the sub is in a relationship with Someone at the time this frenzy is going on, she/he won't be moving from D to D. But if the sub is not in a relationship, there can be some pretty wreckless behavior going on while they're searching for "the One." I agree, of course, that they want/need more of what is happening to their mind/body. That could be why, if the sub is not in a relationship, there is such wreckless behavior going on. I also know that, with me anyway, when I first was exposed to bdsm it was so overwhelming. Here it was, what I'd wanted all my life, and I just went nuts over it for awhile. Also, in my case, I didn't know what was reasonable. I mean, I thought I was supposed to give each prospective D a "complete demonstration" right up front so He'd know what He'd be getting if He decided to keep me. Not very smart. Since then, I've learned that's not true and gotten over the frenzy.

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RE: what is sub frenzy? - 7/29/2010 8:41:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		And of course, CP, who isn't a sub, and never has had these feelings, knows better than those of us who have experienced it, what it really is. I'm getting very tired of his condescension in correcting us and telling us what we really think and feel. Since we, as subs, can't possible know ourselves.

Or is this a case of dom frenzy? A desperate desire to dominate someone which is coming out by trying to dominate every sub on the boards? 

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RE: what is sub frenzy? - 7/29/2010 9:06:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KillerKitten

i apologize in advance if this has already been covered (i did look lol), but all i found were references to sub frenzy, but nothing on what it IS. Can anyone explain this to me? Thanks!
KK


Here is one point of view: http://www.albanypowerexchange.com/Lifestyle/sub_frenzies.htm

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RE: what is sub frenzy? - 7/29/2010 10:26:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

And of course, CP, who isn't a sub, and never has had these feelings, knows better than those of us who have experienced it, what it really is. I'm getting very tired of his condescension in correcting us and telling us what we really think and feel. Since we, as subs, can't possible know ourselves.

Or is this a case of dom frenzy? A desperate desire to dominate someone which is coming out by trying to dominate every sub on the boards? 

Exactly! Thank You DesFIP. I was going to say that in my last post but I was trying SO hard to restrain myself. I don't see HOW someone who's never experienced being a submissive or having sub frenzy could possibly know what it's like.....any more than I know what being a Domme feels like. His "knowledge" of sub frenzy is based purely on blind conjecture, NOT personal experience.

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RE: what is sub frenzy? - 7/29/2010 10:59:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not sure CP is thinking of the same thing at all. What he's talking about is more like the 'high' in a scene. That's not what sub-frenzy referes to. Entirely different thing.

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RE: what is sub frenzy? - 7/29/2010 2:25:54 PM   
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I think if the sub is in a relationship with Someone at the time this frenzy is going on, she/he won't be moving from D to D. But if the sub is not in a relationship, there can be some pretty wreckless behavior going on while they're searching for "the One." I agree, of course, that they want/need more of what is happening to their mind/body. That could be why, if the sub is not in a relationship, there is such wreckless behavior going on. I also know that, with me anyway, when I first was exposed to bdsm it was so overwhelming. Here it was, what I'd wanted all my life, and I just went nuts over it for awhile. Also, in my case, I didn't know what was reasonable. I mean, I thought I was supposed to give each prospective D a "complete demonstration" right up front so He'd know what He'd be getting if He decided to keep me. Not very smart. Since then, I've learned that's not true and gotten over the frenzy.


sweetsub,

You went through the discovery stage when you first came upon the world of D/s. I believe you marveled at the candidness of the whole thing and the lack of the need for pretentiousness............. all so appealing to anyone that was stuck in the mainstream of social interaction.
I do not believe that your desire to expand the experiences constitutes sub frenzy. it was simply throwing caution to the winds.

Laughs, course simply my opinion of course.

CP

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RE: what is sub frenzy? - 7/29/2010 3:15:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KillerKitten

i apologize in advance if this has already been covered (i did look lol), but all i found were references to sub frenzy, but nothing on what it IS. Can anyone explain this to me? Thanks!
KK


Sub Frenzy...

A supposed theory [labeled excuse] by some to completely lose your shit and engage in excessive, risky, reckless, or other forms of behavior without using your head. All because you've had a taste of something kinky that turns you on, makes your heart go pitter patter, or moistens your loins.

Leading to the unfortunate oops in partner selection, experiences you wouldn't dare to relive, or the ultimate display of submission by moving in with some bloke you met on the Internet that you barely know.

The remedy... Keep your wits, common sense, and don't forget everything you learned before this.

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RE: what is sub frenzy? - 7/29/2010 3:16:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		I liked that ProlificNeeds put in "first taste after awhile without" (paraphrased of course) Because it's true. When you find you have a taste for WIIWD, and you go without for say...a year or so, and come back to it, you can come back with a vengenence to say the least. I think alot of us go through it when we're with a new dom. Yes, it can result in reckless behavior. You're just so....eager you can't stop yourself. Sometimes you don't want to.
I do not believe, in the beginning throes of it, that you can control it, it just IS. DarkSteven has it on the nose.

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RE: what is sub frenzy? - 7/29/2010 4:31:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

And of course, CP, who isn't a sub, and never has had these feelings, knows better than those of us who have experienced it, what it really is.



I thought it was a simple mistake: a conflation with subspace, perhaps?

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RE: what is sub frenzy? - 7/29/2010 4:35:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh, so THAT'S what that's called...

I didn't even know there was a name for it.


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RE: what is sub frenzy? - 7/29/2010 4:38:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		You can see some good examples of sub frenzy, if you click the "Recent Journals" button to the left of the personal-ads.

When I first encountered other people into what I was into, I was on one of the first bdsm message boards. It was quite exhilerating but since I am shy and like to write, I expressed my enthusiasm that way rather than leaping at the chance to meet people. And I got lucky. My master noticed me right away becuase of my writings, and, after a few months, snatched me up.

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