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wittynamehere -> RE: Hi...if Master won't touch you? (7/30/2010 4:39:42 PM)

I'd have to say that if you want help here, you have to provide a bit of info. You may think people can just assume your situation, but in reality, we can't.

I second the notion that he's the only one who can answer this question. We can guess.




sirsholly -> RE: Hi...if Master won't touch you? (7/30/2010 5:22:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

southern, at this stage he's still courting you, and being as agreeable as he's going to get.  I'd reconsider whether you'd want to be with him, if such an issue seems intractable at this point.
I have to wonder what Southern will be thinking in a year from now if the relationship progresses and he continues to treat her like a fungus.






Aileen1968 -> RE: Hi...if Master won't touch you? (7/30/2010 5:27:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

southern, at this stage he's still courting you, and being as agreeable as he's going to get.  I'd reconsider whether you'd want to be with him, if such an issue seems intractable at this point.
I have to wonder what Southern will be thinking in a year from now if the relationship progresses and he continues to treat her like a fungus.





I wouldn't wait a year. Touching is one of those things that has no time frame to me. I think you can touch someone appropriately on the first date.
I can't imagine even remotely wanting to be with someone who didn't want to touch me.




ReducedHumanity -> RE: Hi...if Master won't touch you? (7/30/2010 6:02:12 PM)

Another suggestion that I am not sure anyone has mentioned is perhaps he knows its driving you crazy...and using tease and denial with you, to see how it fucks with your mind...It may just be working, but if you don't like it. May be best to communicate with him,tell him why you may not like it.

Being a petgirl if a Master wouldn't touch me,it would be simply because i was a pet and he would see how much I'd be begging to him.

Maybe ask him his reasons for doing so. Just the opinion of a Friendly Submissive.




DesFIP -> RE: Hi...if Master won't touch you? (7/30/2010 6:24:31 PM)

Since the op has no profile, so I can't see her age and make a guess at his, I'm clueless. If he's above the age of 40, then I'm betting Focus is right. The dude has ED and is ashamed to talk about it. So why not ask him straight out? An erection does not define him as a man. In fact, men with ED tend to be better lovers because they take the time a woman may need to warm up and they are focused on the woman's pleasure, instead of getting theirs and then going to sleep.

The lack of communication here however is a definite problem. Either you folks can talk about things or your entire relationship will consist of misunderstandings and guessing.




lizi -> RE: Hi...if Master won't touch you? (7/30/2010 6:25:49 PM)

The first things that came to my mind with such little to go on is that he is involved with another, has some type of communicable disease, or a medical problem like ED. No matter how much I was drawn to someone, I would find such limited physical contact unappealing and it wouldn't work for me.




Zevar -> RE: Hi...if Master won't touch you? (7/30/2010 6:55:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: southernsultry

If your Master only wants to touch your face, view your eyes, tell you how lovely you are but won't touch you....at all...what gives? I know he loves me--but am I'm a glass house? Thanks:)


It is not uncommon to consistently be exposed to emotional detachment from a man that is emotionally detached. Perhaps you might consider your motive in allowing yourself to remain in a situation that excludes you from getting your emotional needs met. If a man is emotionally detached from his emotions then naturally he will not express what he is unaware of. Or perhaps there is another reason(s) why you experience him to not “touch” you.

I would commit to doing a bit of self-examination. Ask yourself why you allow yourself to remain in a situation that erodes at the basic human nature of being touched and touching? Perhaps you might also ask yourself why you allow yourself to be deprived of feeling the fullness of love in a relationship? It is true that you could choose to vacate the relationship.

However the reasons why you allowed yourself to remain in a situation that deprives you of your basic human needs being met will not vanish by way of a geological cure of sorts. Naturally the situation will present itself again in a different setting with differently named people if you avoid exploring your true motive in allowing this to be acted out on yourself.

Eventually you will have to face your internal reasons why you devalue yourself enough to contribute to your own self deprivation. No one can give you what you truly need if you continue to settle for what it is that does not being you total satisfaction and dignity.

I will close with the following for you to consider: Above all else, be true to you regardless! You deserve this and so much more. Dare to allow you to truly experience the fullness of being loved. Never forsake your soul for another. How is that being loved?




Tantriqu -> RE: Hi...if Master won't touch you? (7/30/2010 7:04:51 PM)

Is he bi-?




AnimusRex -> RE: Hi...if Master won't touch you? (7/30/2010 8:07:31 PM)

Fast reply-

Something is wrong; and by coming here and asking for help, the OP is falling into the trap of thinking she can somehow cure or fix this.

Nothing is wrong with her; she cannot fix this.

In answer to other posters, no, even if he were married, bisexual, suffering some terrible injury, subject to explosive diarrhea, convulsions, and open pustules....a man would still want to do more than touch a woman's face. Honestly, I went on a date when I had a fever so high I began to convulse- in bed after I reached orgasm. I have known men who had two broken ribs and a concussion and could get a woody. That how we are wired.

Something is definitely wrong- with him. And he doesn't seem keen on fixing it- he seems to be happy with it.

Sorry.




CelticPrince -> RE: Hi...if Master won't touch you? (7/30/2010 8:08:15 PM)

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If your Master only wants to touch your face, view your eyes, tell you how lovely you are but won't touch you....at all...what gives? I know he loves me--but am I'm a glass house? Thanks:)


sultry,

He may not be a Dominant at all!

CP




Aileen1968 -> RE: Hi...if Master won't touch you? (7/30/2010 8:19:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

quote:

If your Master only wants to touch your face, view your eyes, tell you how lovely you are but won't touch you....at all...what gives? I know he loves me--but am I'm a glass house? Thanks:)


sultry,

He may not be a Dominant at all!

CP

Please explain to me how one needs to be dominant in order to express or not express themselves through touch.




Bobanna -> RE: Hi...if Master won't touch you? (7/30/2010 9:01:43 PM)

have you ever seen the movie ... He's just not that into you?




Chrisincuffs -> RE: Hi...if Master won't touch you? (7/30/2010 9:16:21 PM)

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I think it's funny everyone came up with so many conclusions with NO information. How long has this been going on? How long have you known him? How many times have you seen him in person? What has he said about WHY he is processing it all? Did you ask? Did you tell him what your expectations where of a relationship?


I think it's funny that you posted this and we still have no real info and seem to have more fun guessing than actually finding anything out. I tried to guess at first too, but once I thought about it, I think ya really have to put your foot down and ask a Dom wtf is going on




IronBear -> RE: Hi...if Master won't touch you? (7/30/2010 10:10:11 PM)

I'm with Focus on this. Unless you have suffered from ED (FDS) that is for the uninitiated, ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION (FLOPPY DICK SYNDROME), you have no idea just how debilitating and destructive it is for an otherwise healthy man. It can be caused by injury, psychological reasons or bad circulation due to diabetes.  Even though I know from experience and logical, a man can adequately please a woman manually and orally, there is the fear of failure and disappointing her. There is nothing a woman can do in the short term other than stand by her man and encourage alternative sorts of play. I'm a long term sufferer of ED and understand these issues well. Like Focus, I have bunkered down and almost instinctively avoided heading out socially. Again I am upfront and open about this disability so as to allow a girl to not want to get involved.. Conversely, we have a couple of blokes who we both know and who we have sexually played with ere the happening of ED. This is my way of providing a healthy sexual release for Neets in an enjoyable manner and avoiding unhealthy pressures building. 




Wantstocontrolu -> RE: Hi...if Master won't touch you? (7/31/2010 12:25:47 AM)

Ask but ask respectfully.
regardless of answer
He is your Master... obey





texangael -> RE: Hi...if Master won't touch you? (7/31/2010 5:20:51 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Wantstocontrolu
Ask but ask respectfully.
regardless of answer
He is your Master... obey

How does that help?

She wants to be touched more. 
He is not touching her more. 
The lack of touching is putting her in a negative frame of mind.
She wants to know why he will not touch her more.

BDSM poetry is not likely to set her mind at ease on the subject.

(Also, if you were reaching for the Haiku effect the structure should be 5 syllables 7 syllables 5 syllables....like this:

Ask respectfully
Regardless of answer
Obey your Master

And that still would not help matters)




sunshinemiss -> RE: Hi...if Master won't touch you? (7/31/2010 5:43:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Bobanna

have you ever seen the movie ... He's just not that into you?


The book is better.

And actually, that was my response.

He's just not that into you.

Good luck,
sunshine




sunshinemiss -> RE: Hi...if Master won't touch you? (7/31/2010 5:50:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

I'm with Focus on this. Unless you have suffered from ED (FDS) that is for the uninitiated, ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION (FLOPPY DICK SYNDROME), you have no idea just how debilitating and destructive it is for an otherwise healthy man. It can be caused by injury, psychological reasons or bad circulation due to diabetes.  Even though I know from experience and logical, a man can adequately please a woman manually and orally, there is the fear of failure and disappointing her. There is nothing a woman can do in the short term other than stand by her man and encourage alternative sorts of play. I'm a long term sufferer of ED and understand these issues well. Like Focus, I have bunkered down and almost instinctively avoided heading out socially. Again I am upfront and open about this disability so as to allow a girl to not want to get involved.. Conversely, we have a couple of blokes who we both know and who we have sexually played with ere the happening of ED. This is my way of providing a healthy sexual release for Neets in an enjoyable manner and avoiding unhealthy pressures building. 


Hello Iron Bear,
Your point, as well as Focus' are on target.  However, I disagree with you about the fellow in the OP.  The issue isn't whether or not ED is involved.  To *me* the issue is that she wants to be touched, and he's not touching her.  It's a nonsexual touching she's talking about from a later post. 

I've dated a wonderful man with ED.  Great guy, great lover even.  He loved touching me.  All the time.  I loved it too.  The ED was not an issue because, like you, he discussed it with me pretty much from the very beginning.  If it *is* an issue for the fellow, his *not* discussing it when she clearly wants more (and hopefully has voiced that - but really who knows?) is a sign that there is something else missing.  He would need to manage his own issues around this.  A man who really wants to be with a woman will bite the bullet and deal with the issues. 

There are of course too many variables to make any kind of informed, educated, salient argument about *why* he's not doing something.... People do the things that are important to them.  For him, touching her is not important... for whatever reason.  For her, she needs it.  That is (to me) a big difference in world view and how one interacts in the world. 

Best to you and yours,
sunshine




sunshinemiss -> RE: Hi...if Master won't touch you? (7/31/2010 5:55:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Wantstocontrolu

Ask but ask respectfully.
regardless of answer
He is your Master... obey




Seriously... I mean SERIOUSLY... is that your final answer?

Do you know anything at all about real life relationships? 

Obey?  that's it?  She's got a NEED here, and you are saying, don't follow your gut, don't do the thing you need... YOU and your needs are totally unimportant.

Doing what he is showing he wants now (her living in a glass house - good metaphor btw) is bothersome to her.  And you just say... ask and do what he says no matter what...

I don't know *any* women who would do that.  Not real life women anyway.

good luck in your search, man.
sunshine




DarkSteven -> RE: Hi...if Master won't touch you? (7/31/2010 6:10:55 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Wantstocontrolu

Ask but ask respectfully.
regardless of answer
He is your Master... obey



No, he's not.  He is a prospective Dom (NOT Master). Read her second post in this thread.

If he WAS her Master, then he would be entitled to hear her issue and make a decision.  And them she'd have to determine of she could live with it.  Mindless obedience makes for very bad relationships.




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