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Politics and religion. - 7/30/2010 2:42:25 PM

dbloomer

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Politics and religion are control.

It's like two people stranded on a tiny island, trying to figure out how to run (control) the island best.

I'd rather not be stranded on a tiny island at all. Until we stop discussing politics and religion and start discussing how to get off this "metaphorical" tiny island, we're ALWAYS going to have problems, problems that politics and religion can't fix, because a tiny island isn't an ideal place to live when there's a vast world of possibilities out there.

What's all this mean? It means trying to fix a broken system from within the broken system won't work.

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RE: Politics and religion. - 7/30/2010 2:43:47 PM

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Well then. thanks for stopping by!

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RE: Politics and religion. - 7/30/2010 2:48:22 PM

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Yep, we could be laying out on a bunch of little rocks.

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RE: Politics and religion. - 7/30/2010 3:11:57 PM

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Well then. thanks for stopping by!

LMAO

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RE: Politics and religion. - 7/30/2010 4:02:54 PM

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ORIGINAL: dbloomer

Politics and religion are control.

It's like two people stranded on a tiny island, trying to figure out how to run (control) the island best.

I'd rather not be stranded on a tiny island at all. Until we stop discussing politics and religion and start discussing how to get off this "metaphorical" tiny island, we're ALWAYS going to have problems, problems that politics and religion can't fix, because a tiny island isn't an ideal place to live when there's a vast world of possibilities out there.

What's all this mean? It means trying to fix a broken system from within the broken system won't work.

Hate to say it but we are stuck on an island. It's a big island, kinda planet sized, but it still has finite resources and limited space.

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RE: Politics and religion. - 7/30/2010 4:23:18 PM

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Cheer up. Be thankful it's not Staten Island.

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RE: Politics and religion. - 7/30/2010 4:27:09 PM

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Everyone could get together and make me Emperor of Earth. I promise not to fuck up everything too awful badly...

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RE: Politics and religion. - 7/30/2010 4:27:31 PM

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It's never Hawaii, or Fiji.

How's Long Island?

fuckin ayeeeeeee

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RE: Politics and religion. - 7/30/2010 4:43:54 PM

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Yep, we could be laying out on a bunch of little rocks.

Only a sick pervert liberal would sit on one of those rocks.

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RE: Politics and religion. - 7/30/2010 4:47:36 PM

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Aileen's cousins are from Long Island....

They make Snooki look like Joanie Cunningham.

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RE: Politics and religion. - 7/30/2010 4:48:28 PM

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Fuckin' aye

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RE: Politics and religion. - 7/30/2010 5:21:03 PM

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Name something that politics are not involved in...hard to get away from it.

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RE: Politics and religion. - 7/30/2010 5:48:07 PM

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Name something that politics are not involved in...hard to get away from it.

Politics is easy to escape if we escape the condition in which the need for politics arises.

Say slavery still existed, and slave owner A was trying to talk with slave owner B about how best to use the slaves.

No decision they arrive at will be good or helpful, or a long-term solution, because the condition of slavery is not good or helpful.

Thus they would need to deviate from the pre-conceived notion that slavery is good, just like we need to deviate from the pre-conceived notion that a world where religion and politics are needed is good, or as good as it can get.

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RE: Politics and religion. - 7/30/2010 6:21:07 PM

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Hate to say it but we are stuck on an island. It's a big island, kinda planet sized, but it still has finite resources and limited space.

I agree. Politics and religion provide us with no practical means to manage our space and resources. They are obsolete given our what we can do with technology. Beliefs are the software on which your brain runs, and when your software is out of date or obsolete the smart thing to do is replace it.

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RE: Politics and religion. - 7/30/2010 6:36:19 PM

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If there is more than one person on earth there will be politics by its very definition.

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RE: Politics and religion. - 7/30/2010 6:44:34 PM

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If there is more than one person on earth there will be politics by its very definition.

Butch

We may always have people coming together to arrive at conclusions for our society, but if we're smart we'll do away with politics as we know it now in our current model of government.

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RE: Politics and religion. - 7/30/2010 7:22:48 PM

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And replace it with what?

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RE: Politics and religion. - 7/30/2010 7:26:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

If there is more than one person on earth there will be politics by its very definition.

Butch

We may always have people coming together to arrive at conclusions for our society, but if we're smart we'll do away with politics as we know it now in our current model of government.

Fuck. What is the alternative?

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RE: Politics and religion. - 7/30/2010 7:50:37 PM

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Fuck. What is the alternative?

A system that isn't vulnerable to greed and where choices aren't made by people with only private interests in mind, something that will NEVER happen given our current establishment.

Trying to fix our system through politics and religion is like trying to use a bucket to bail water out of a sinking boat. Eventually that boat will sink, and even if it doesn't, it'll never operate as well as a boat with no hole in it.

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RE: Politics and religion. - 7/30/2010 8:07:38 PM

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A system that isn't vulnerable to greed and where choices aren't made by people with only private interests in mind,

Please elaborate

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