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Bratty Girls and Pampering your Domme - 8/4/2010 11:53:09 AM   
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How many of you gentleman out there like the bratty dominant girl scenario?
I am so curious about this... divas and pampering...

For me, pampering your domme is a form of submissiveness... Like you should be doing that as she is your domme and deserves respect...

Any thoughts...?
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RE: Bratty Girls and Pampering your Domme - 8/4/2010 11:55:17 AM   
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A bratty Domme deserves the sub she gets.

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RE: Bratty Girls and Pampering your Domme - 8/4/2010 12:00:56 PM   
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I think you're going to find that the word "bratty" means different things to different people. For some, that word means "spirited" and can be a positive description. For others (and I'm in this camp), "bratty" simply means undisciplined and childish. Given how I interpret the word bratty, I'm not seeing any upsides to "undisciplined and childish".... ESPECIALLY for a dominant partner.

Insofar as the domme deserving respect.... to me that's a ridiculous concept. NOBODY deserves respect. They either earn it or they don't. I'm not buying into the entitlement culture and I am sure as hell not buying into dom entitlement.

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RE: Bratty Girls and Pampering your Domme - 8/4/2010 12:09:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ThinRedFox

How many of you gentleman out there like the bratty dominant girl scenario?
I am so curious about this... divas and pampering...

For me, pampering your domme is a form of submissiveness... Like you should be doing that as she is your domme and deserves respect...

Any thoughts...?


Some women believe in care taking and make physical and financial investments in their comfort with or without a partner. Others have the same ideology and believe it should be supplemented by their partner.

My behavior is far from bratty and I've never found that an appealing trait that I could deal with for long durations. The lifestyle choices I've made would apply to the person I'm with. This suggests that he will be well cared for and coiffed because I demand the same for myself. I wouldn't want anything less for him. However, pampering encompasses many things that are largely dependent on the dominant's preferences. My tastes are diverse and include aesthetic, cultural, gastronomic, and relaxing past-times that have elements of pampering that I enjoy.

As for diva's, I define her as a moneyed woman with a sense of entitlement that expects others to cater to her whims and demands. Oftentimes her status and brusque behavior encourage the compliance she prefers.

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RE: Bratty Girls and Pampering your Domme - 8/4/2010 12:16:01 PM   
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In this context I think of 'spoiled princess' syndrome when I read 'bratty'. Not sure if that's what was intended.

As for being spoiled, I get spoiled plenty even as a sub, and enjoy it very much!

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RE: Bratty Girls and Pampering your Domme - 8/4/2010 12:16:41 PM   
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I am in agreement here.... I happened along some "bratty" girl sites yesterday and was intrigued... I don't think the idea of a domme is to behave in this manner.
A domme does not need to behave like a child to get what she wants. Through the domme / sub relationship all needs should be taken care of in a respectful manner that is unique to each couple.

I do believe in pampering... but pampering can encompass many things... a foot rub or time spent doing something enjoyable... not always a materialistic aspect.  

The bratty girl sites are something else entirely. it makes me wonder if those girls even like the scene... or are they just users...

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RE: Bratty Girls and Pampering your Domme - 8/4/2010 12:19:37 PM   
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Insofar as the domme deserving respect.... to me that's a ridiculous concept. NOBODY deserves respect. They either earn it or they don't. I'm not buying into the entitlement culture and I am sure as hell not buying into dom entitlement.


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RE: Bratty Girls and Pampering your Domme - 8/4/2010 12:20:16 PM   
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when i think of a bratty little girl, it is in the context of a submissive with a stern daddy (alright, it's a fantasy and sothefuck what?)

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RE: Bratty Girls and Pampering your Domme - 8/4/2010 12:26:04 PM   
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For me, pampering your domme is a form of submissiveness... Like you should be doing that as she is your domme and deserves respect...


In my opinion this goes both ways. Ideally your character and ownership are such where demands and expectations are not a necessity. He wants to do it because you compel him by who you are rather than the things you impose. I've never had to tell a man to do this or that or elicit diva like behavior to get it. And the same held true in kink and non kink situations.

I'd rather be the standard than the role.

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RE: Bratty Girls and Pampering your Domme - 8/4/2010 12:28:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ThinRedFox

How many of you gentleman out there like the bratty dominant girl scenario?
I am so curious about this... divas and pampering...

For me, pampering your domme is a form of submissiveness... Like you should be doing that as she is your domme and deserves respect...

Any thoughts...?


When I think bratty girl I sure as HELL do not think, respect worthy, dominant woman. I think of someone that needs her ass paddled.


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RE: Bratty Girls and Pampering your Domme - 8/4/2010 1:15:18 PM   
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i just have visions of this sub runing around in circles trying to fill some emotional vacuum.  it sounds narcisistic and childish to be honest and not the sort of person id be interested in submitting to at all.



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RE: Bratty Girls and Pampering your Domme - 8/4/2010 3:05:02 PM   
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I'd have to pass on that one.

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RE: Bratty Girls and Pampering your Domme - 8/4/2010 3:47:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ThinRedFox

How many of you gentleman out there like the bratty dominant girl scenario?
I am so curious about this... divas and pampering...

For me, pampering your domme is a form of submissiveness... Like you should be doing that as she is your domme and deserves respect...

Any thoughts...?
I'm a dominant man and not a submissive one but hey, Leadership answered and so will I.

In fantasyland, I tend to think of bratty in terms of a submissive misbehaving like a bad little girl and "Daddy" deals with that in the proper manner...note that I said "in fantasyland".

Here in the real world, I don't do brat submissives on an ongoing basis.  I see them as willful, spiteful children much like SAMs and, to be honest and knowing I will catch some flak over this, all submissives can be bratty at times.  They're human and so they are not going to be well-behaved and/or not all that submissive all the time.  Hell, all dominants are human and therefore, not perfect either.  ( I know, someone is sure as shit going to revoke my membership card one day).  As the dominant, I figure it is my job and my obligation to do my best to figure out why the behavior is going on, deal with it as necessary or correct it as necessary, and move on.  On a full-time basis?  As already noted, not only no but HELL no.

In a dominant?  Absolutely not.  Tis one thing to control and lead because you have self-will, self-control and a strong belief that your structuring of the dynamic...however you do it, with or without input from your submissive...is the best way for things to run and that you are the one best able to do it.  Tis another thing entirely to structure a dynamic based entirely on your whims, your ideas, your needs and wants, your desires, your fantasies and expect someone else to live it...without input or reciprocity in regards to their own wants and needs and desires...and then enforce it by petulance, sullen silences, manipulation and domineering rather than dominant behavior.

That said, I will offer up the standard disclaimer so that I won't be accused of
one-wayism":  However 2 or more people choose to structure their dynamic is their choice so long as it is consented to by both parties. 

Pampering?  Pampering is nice...I believe that it should be engaged in but in MY world, it is engaged in on both sides.  There are those who think I let submissives get away with too much and there are those that think I do not.  As long as the percentages run about 75 - 25...~shrugs~...I'm good.


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RE: Bratty Girls and Pampering your Domme - 8/4/2010 8:40:04 PM   
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I think this is great and I would do it constantly. As long as she is a really good brat and not just a snotty woman.
If she really knew how to be a perfect brat, this would be a most exciting part of a relationship.

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RE: Bratty Girls and Pampering your Domme - 8/4/2010 9:03:06 PM   
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RE: Bratty Girls and Pampering your Domme - 8/4/2010 9:23:28 PM   
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As for diva's, I define her as a moneyed woman with a sense of entitlement that expects others to cater to her whims and demands. Oftentimes her status and brusque behavior encourage the compliance she prefers.

~porcelaine



I like the word Diva. I think it connotes many things, not all of them negative. After all, opera singers are Divas, great actresses are, fashion icons, etc. It is not always a bitchy woman or someone who expects to be catered to; pampered, yes, catered to, not so much.

If you think of yourself as a Diva of sorts, from my perspective, it simply means you are somewhat high maintenance in your taste, how you handle yourself and others, your personal strength and that you possess an indefinable sense of style.

(of course this is from a woman who chose Divalicious Redhead as her avatar title)

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RE: Bratty Girls and Pampering your Domme - 8/4/2010 9:32:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ThinRedFox

How many of you gentleman out there like the bratty dominant girl scenario?
I am so curious about this... divas and pampering...

For me, pampering your domme is a form of submissiveness... Like you should be doing that as she is your domme and deserves respect...

Any thoughts...?


I'm not a fan of bratty behavior - no matter what orientation someone is.

As for pampering being a form of submissiveness - acts are neither submissive nor dominant.  My owner and I pamper each other.  He pampers me when he wants to, and who am I to say he's doing it wrong?  He tells me to learn to accept it, so I do.

Respect?  We respect each other.  I guess it comes with loving each other.  He has my respect because of the man he is, period.


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RE: Bratty Girls and Pampering your Domme - 8/4/2010 10:47:51 PM   
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I expect a submissive to show his affection not by lots of words and calling me "Goddess" all the time, but by attending to not only what I want, but what I could want, and what would bring a smile to my face.  This requires attention and learning my needs, likes and dislikes, and overall life goals, but I thought that was part of a submissive's job anyway.




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RE: Bratty Girls and Pampering your Domme - 8/4/2010 11:56:48 PM   
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I like the word Diva. I think it connotes many things, not all of them negative. After all, opera singers are Divas, great actresses are, fashion icons, etc. It is not always a bitchy woman or someone who expects to be catered to; pampered, yes, catered to, not so much.

If you think of yourself as a Diva of sorts, from my perspective, it simply means you are somewhat high maintenance in your taste, how you handle yourself and others, your personal strength and that you possess an indefinable sense of style.



The original meaning is associated with female singers including those in the opera. However, the definition clearly mentions that she's a prima donna.

prima donna:


1. a first or principal female singer of an opera company.

2. a temperamental person; a person who takes adulation and privileged treatment as a right and reacts with petulance to criticism or inconvenience.

High maintenance and entitlement are not the same. I'm sure you embody the positive attributes.

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RE: Bratty Girls and Pampering your Domme - 8/5/2010 4:09:53 AM   
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Pampering is wooing behaviour, it's part of courtship and I am known to pamper subs.
Nothing submissive about it, buying gifts, going to concerts, meals out, holidays abroad, they are demonstrations of financial status, which indicate success. Who would want to be dominated by someone watching the pennies, where is the power in that?

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