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Marini -> RE: Curiosity about Religion...is it God or Gods? (8/4/2010 9:09:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MiakodaTala thank you its actually Native American...i am very open minded...i have no problem shareing my beliefs and learning about others...i just dislike people weather they believe in higher being(s) or not..to try to tell others oh you are wrong because you believe this. quote: MiakodaTala Vanilla Posts: 7 Joined: 8/3/2010 Status: online thank you its actually Native American...i am very open minded...i have no problem shareing my beliefs and learning about others...i just dislike people weather they believe in higher being(s) or not..to try to tell others oh you are wrong because you believe this. What a lovely Native American name. I just wanted to give you a head's up because many of the non-believers around here will debate/discuss/argue about GOD/GODDESS with you, until it is time to meet her. Namaste

thornhappy -> RE: Curiosity about Religion...is it God or Gods? (8/4/2010 9:19:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Marini many on this site are heretics, agnostics, non-believers that are often anti-GOD and many just enjoy trashing our "CREATOR", so I rarely, rarely, rarely even bother to read or post on religious threads, on this site. Whew. Not too judgemental, are ya?

MiakodaTala -> RE: Curiosity about Religion...is it God or Gods? (8/4/2010 9:21:43 PM)
while yes you are correct about Pan...Dionysus actually did eventually move to olympus once his wife Ariadene became a Goddess herself she was the reason he did not live in Olympus and incase you havent actually studied religion..almost every religion is entertwined they believe the same things just wordes diffrently

Marini -> RE: Curiosity about Religion...is it God or Gods? (8/4/2010 9:22:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thornhappy quote: ORIGINAL: Marini many on this site are heretics, agnostics, non-believers that are often anti-GOD and many just enjoy trashing our "CREATOR", so I rarely, rarely, rarely even bother to read or post on religious threads, on this site. Whew. Not too judgemental, are ya? Go read 4 religious threads on here! I dare you. Thorn, this is just a fact. The truth will set you free.

MiakodaTala -> RE: Curiosity about Religion...is it God or Gods? (8/4/2010 9:33:14 PM)
unfortunatly i do know that...i was hopeing to have a nice non cruel discussion but i guess thats to much to ask

DarkSteven -> RE: Curiosity about Religion...is it God or Gods? (8/4/2010 9:48:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MiakodaTala unfortunatly i do know that...i was hopeing to have a nice non cruel discussion but i guess thats to much to ask Nice thought, but the wrong forum for it! I think of this forum as being the red light district of collarme, where people are ahem less nuanced than in the other forums. Hell, I've seen posters slinging mud at each other here, and get along great in other forums.

CynthiaWVirginia -> RE: Curiosity about Religion...is it God or Gods? (8/4/2010 10:01:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MiakodaTala Ok ..im odd when it comes to Religion...i pray to both God...singular..and the Greek Gods...im curious to know if anyone else does that...and what others believes...are there any others who believe in the Greek Gods? Hello MiakodaTala. I have had Greek friends, but they went to Greek Orthodox and I thought that was some branch of Catholicism...but since I never asked and didn't look it up, I am not sure. I thought Greek legends of "Gods" were interesting and cool and read everything I could about them when I was in Jr. High. I also watched all kinds of old movies, including the old Clash of the Titans, and just yesterday, Percy Jackson and the Olympians; the Lightning Thief. I thought there was supposed to be some giant plague on Olympus and only Psyche and Eros (Cupid all grown up) survived. Maybe I need to look this up again, just for fun. I am a bible reading, usually non-church going Christian. So I only worship my one God...no others before Him. [;)] I stay out of other people's personal beliefs, though I am fond of expressing my opinions sometimes when asked. Mom and I almost arm wrestle over religious beliefs, and we're both Christian. [:D] Welcome to the message boards.

MiakodaTala -> RE: Curiosity about Religion...is it God or Gods? (8/4/2010 10:14:49 PM)
thanks Cynthia and i am actually not Greek..lol i dont know what Greek orthodox is either..i just...do alot of reasearch is how i learned about Greek gods...and well i know a guy who actually worships the gods only...he kinda got me into it lol

heartcream -> RE: Curiosity about Religion...is it God or Gods? (8/4/2010 10:17:05 PM)
I have loads of beliefs in things that others would cast aspersions all over in this place, screaming I need cites and what not. I mean look at History, we have only begun writing things down in the last while and the stuff they allow to be published is often very mentally polarized. For me I believe what I believe because it rings true, feels true for me. Even if no other person I meet believes something I do, I still believe what I believe. I love History. Love it. The real History not that utter shite too many messed up white folks be teaching either. I like History connected to it's previous History. If you go back, it is like you say, all over-lapping connected, and the same in many ways. The Solstices and the Equinox's are a big deal. Big time shite happens on this planet and will continue to do so. Truth will out darlings. There is space for us all to evolve in our own unique, subjective and precise way. We dont all have to believe in the same things. Watch what happens next.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Curiosity about Religion...is it God or Gods? (8/4/2010 10:21:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heartcream The Solstices and the Equinox's are a big deal. Big time shite happens on this planet and will continue to do so. Sure they do. And the earth will be destroyed in 2012. <twilight zone theme>

heartcream -> RE: Curiosity about Religion...is it God or Gods? (8/5/2010 1:32:23 AM)
Actually no the Earth wont be destroyed in two years but other things might be.

AQuietSimpleMan -> RE: Curiosity about Religion...is it God or Gods? (8/5/2010 2:21:49 AM)
Quick Question for those who dig the whole Greek God thing.... Explain Atlas? We all know the earth is just spinning around in the darkness of space... not on some HUGE DUDES Shoulders...... So do we pick and choose which Greek Gods we accept and throw out the silly ones? QSM

EbonyWood -> RE: Curiosity about Religion...is it God or Gods? (8/5/2010 2:40:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan Quick Question for those who dig the whole Greek God thing.... Explain Atlas? We all know the earth is just spinning around in the darkness of space... not on some HUGE DUDES Shoulders...... So do we pick and choose which Greek Gods we accept and throw out the silly ones? QSM Actually the depiction of Atlas holding the Earth is an erroneous one. He was actually punished by Zeus and made to carry the sky. The image of him holding the Earth appeared on some of Mercator's early atlases and it stuck (in some minds).

EbonyWood -> RE: Curiosity about Religion...is it God or Gods? (8/5/2010 2:55:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Marini quote: ORIGINAL: MiakodaTala thank you Marini for being respectful..i do appreciate it...and you are correct..who said that the being(s) who created our world are male... many on this site are heretics, agnostics, non-believers that are often anti-GOD and many just enjoy trashing our "CREATOR", so I rarely, rarely, rarely even bother to read or post on religious threads, on this site. Not quite sure how you can 'trash' an entity that you don't believe exists. 'Trash' the believers in such an entity I guess, yes. There's no enjoyment in it. Just rational thought that denies the existence of an unproven entity. Too much of the religious animosity in the US and reflected on these boards is the denigration of atheism/agnosticism. Much of it is really obscene. And of course hypocritical, being perpetrated by groups claiming to espouse tolerance of thought.

CynthiaWVirginia -> RE: Curiosity about Religion...is it God or Gods? (8/5/2010 3:09:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MiakodaTala thanks Cynthia and i am actually not Greek..lol i dont know what Greek orthodox is either..i just...do alot of reasearch is how i learned about Greek gods...and well i know a guy who actually worships the gods only...he kinda got me into it lol Greek mythology is very interesting. My dad almost had heart failure when I brought home a book from the library...um...this queen had been cursed with love for a...(something unmentionable here)...and gave birth to the Minotaur. Then there was all the death in the maze he lived in... If anyone bragged about their children or their good looks and compared it to that of a god's, oh boy was there Hades to pay. <grins> Medusa, and that girl who was chained to the rock so a titan would eat her...mwahahahaha. That one with Psyche really caught my attention. She ends up with a husband she can never look at...and then her sisters taunt her that he must be a monster and for her to light her oil lamp and look at him while he sleeps. She does...and is so surprised at his beauty that her hand slips and she pours burning oil on him...and he wakes up betrayed by his own wife. Wow, were their gods passionate and vindictive and forever toying with humans...taking lovers, taking favorites... I think I need to refresh my memory on some of those. Btw, I was told that those gods were Greek, but Romans adopted and renamed them, keeping their natures and stories the same. Those stories were exciting, with heroes and monsters and oracles. I still remember begging my dad to let me stay up and watch Hercules, or Jason and the Argonauts (sp?), or something like that. Witches and cyclops and cannibalism and...everything a Saturday night could hope for while I sat on the couch glugging Pepsi and munching salted popcorn. If I had lived in times like those and believed those legends, then I would have been a quiet, obedient girl wanting a boring, uneventful life...without all of the scary drama, lol.

Rule -> RE: Curiosity about Religion...is it God or Gods? (8/5/2010 5:44:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MiakodaTala Ok ..im odd when it comes to Religion...i pray to both God...singular..and the Greek Gods...im curious to know if anyone else does that...and what others believes...are there any others who believe in the Greek Gods? There is a modernization, an improvement in spirituality. Such entities as pagan gods and saints and heaps of dung or sand are only intermediaries - D-tours - to the Divine, a supercomputer larger than our universe that is a cloud or sea of bipolar particles 'outside' our universe. Any prayer to whomever or whatever is enabled or not enabled by this Divine. Both the Divine and the pagan gods were known to people of ancient times. (The Heavens of the various gods and Hell were visible and plenty of people met the pagan gods in person.) About three and a half thousand of our years ago the pagan god of the Abrahamic Jews (and of everybody else) declared all other pagan gods frauds and insisted that people should pray to him specifically only. This showed his stupidity for actually he wanted people to pray to the Divine specifically, not to himself as he also was a pagan god. He solved this problem by pretending to the Jews that he the pagan god did not exist and that he was actually the Divine (which in the magical paradigm he indeed temporarily was - but that was and is true for any ruling pagan god). Thus his big reform / revolution of spirituality was the introduction of a direct personal relationship between a person and the Divine, excising the D-tours. Abrahamic Jews and Muslims still have this direct personal relationship with the Divine, though in fact they worship Abraham - a courageous but stupid human - as they practice the blasphemous practice of circumcision; for this reason they are as a population damned with six times more lethal genetic diseases than European Christian populations. Which brings me to the next great revolution in spirituality: that introduced by Jesus and Paul. The Jews and Muslims are subjected to the spiritual punishment for their sins. Anyone who truly believes that Jesus (or whomever or whatever) has paid and suffered for his individual sin(s) therefore has a free ticket to get out from this payment. (People such as psychopaths and sociopaths who have no awareness of having sinned have a free ticket anyway.) Various other improvements were also introduced by Jesus and Paul: Pay your taxes to the emperor (i.e. not only the secular emperor, but also the Divine), Do not trade in the temple, Forgive the adulterous female, and foremost of all Do not circumcise. So why do you make the D-tour of praying to pagan gods? It is the Divine that responds anyway, not the pagan gods who themselves will be as unaware of your prayers as your next door neighbor - unless you shout very loudly. If you want to consult an avatar of a pagan god, you can simply send them an e-mail or address them in passing on the street.

Rule -> RE: Curiosity about Religion...is it God or Gods? (8/5/2010 5:50:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Marini The truth will set you free. Only those who are able to recognize it as such. An anosognosiac per definition cannot. So for those who cannot, there is only one way to nevertheless be set free: to have faith in the truth that they cannot recognize as such themselves.

Moonhead -> RE: Curiosity about Religion...is it God or Gods? (8/5/2010 6:31:02 AM)
The Greeks didn't practice circumcision, old boy.

vincentML -> RE: Curiosity about Religion...is it God or Gods? (8/5/2010 6:50:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead The Greeks didn't practice circumcision, old boy. Rule cannot get through a post without mentioning the word. Vincent waves hi to Rule [:D]

vincentML -> RE: Curiosity about Religion...is it God or Gods? (8/5/2010 6:54:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MiakodaTala first of all. Aphrodite and Eros are not God and Goddess of the same thing..Aphrodite was the Goddess of Love in the aspect of looks...physicall love basically..while her Son Eros was more of the spirituall and deeper love... and honestly who in the world tries to make Religion in general make sense with Physics...honestly...you dont try to make the Bible and God make sense with it so why bash on someone else's beliefs? Quite an amazing statement to be placed on P&R especially. Cripes, man! If your belief does not make sense why in hell do you entertain it? It is you who make no sense.

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