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America HAS in fact become what we fought against- a global Empire, not very much different than Britain under Victoria.

Empires occupy other lands, other nations; they control them.

We have troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, of course. We have fought wars with them and are preparing to withdraw.
I and A aside, please name the countries we occupy and control.
Global empire my ass.

Why do we have military bases in cuba,panama,japan or korea?

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1896? Couldnt you at least find something in the last 100 years? And imperialist actions, not words?

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

With this Obama Economy I heard that it would be "wise" to stay out of the stock market for the next 9 months.

Why? And put your money where? Hanging on to it doesn't earn anything. Interest rates are low.

Or invest on fundamentals (which nearly always works well, practically by definition) and collect dividends while buying a share in solid companies at good prices.

In other words, treat stocks like the part ownership in those companies they are, instead of like some giant casino.

Music, sure, there are some great dividend stocks out there as long as you know that the dividend is "safe."
I wouldn't put my money in a bank or credit union at .75% interest.
But as far as "growth" in the economy over the next year or so many analysts just don't see it. Of course Jim Cramer is "bullish" on a lot of stocks but that's his job.
When there's no growth stocks get punished.
I like a stock called Windstream (WIN). It's a phone co. and a "dividend" stock, not much "growth" there. Cramer likes it too and said the "dividend is safe."
It 's had a range of about $9.50 to $11.75 over the last two years and the yield goes from 8.40 % to 10% (generally)
I've done well by selling it when it hits $11.50 and waiting till it gets into the low "10's". I'm "playing the interest rate."
As it goes up the rate decreases making it "less attractive" so I sell and wait till the interest rate comes back up as it goes down and get more shares.
Nice gig, eh?
It's approaching it's "highs" now so I sold it two weeks ago at $11.42 2,317 shares and I'll wait for a bit till it comes down again.

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America HAS in fact become what we fought against- a global Empire, not very much different than Britain under Victoria.

Empires occupy other lands, other nations; they control them.

We have troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, of course. We have fought wars with them and are preparing to withdraw.
I and A aside, please name the countries we occupy and control.
Global empire my ass.

Why do we have military bases in cuba,panama,japan or korea?

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1896? Couldnt you at least find something in the last 100 years? And imperialist actions, not words?

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ORIGINAL: NeedToUseYou

I have little hope anything will change in the short term.

The left won't budge on their pet entitlements, the right won't budge on their military exploits. So, it is August now, the debt is ticking up, the base rate is still at stupid low levels, and the economy still is puttering.


Here's the solution.

Slash military.
Slash entitlements
Remove stupid drug laws.

Make it illegal for any state, city, county, village, or federal government agency to offer any benefit to any private business, or individual. Whether that be subsidized loans, deferred taxes, free land, or otherwise.

Make the standards for disability rational, as in this dipshit down the block, because of his heart condition, is not disabled, he can answer phones, or do some kind of data entry, nope we pay him disability based on some kind of mid 20th century model of labor. Oh we also pay his 300+ pound wife to sit on her ass all day because of self induced diabetes, for eating like a hog... God it makes me sick... Those to probably cost the taxpayers well over a 100K a year, between, straight money, food stamps, free medical, subsidized electricity, etc.. It's a joke, they should live like complete shit, because they are. They don't volunteer in their 24 hours a day free time, they just consume, and consume they do, all the fake aldi's ice cream you can shove down a hog's gullet.

Oh yeah, make food stamps for food only as in only for food that offers some type of required nutritional benefit. As in no sodas, no potato chips, no candy. I've been avoiding the local convenience store, because half the fucking time the person in front of me is buying a soda, and some kind of snack with the fucking LINK CARD!!! Ruins my attitude for like 20 minutes every time I see that.

Once you get that done, you break all those huge financials apart, and put permanent max valuation caps on them. Then once that is done, you go and do that to the next industry, until we have some reasonable level of competition, instead of this oligarchy crap, that feigns competition, through the use of subsidiaries, and branding.

Also while in process of doing that, you impose punitive taxes on foreign companies that exceed our maximum company size standards.

There you go, partial current list. HEHE.

But really I think the country is just fucked for years to come. After that well it may be better, but the current mindset from all involved appears to be do nothing until the cards fall.

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Any article with the phrase "imperial priorities" isnt worth the pixels that died to write it.

"This great democracy is moving onward to its great destiny. Woe to the man or nation that try to bar its imperial march..... The time given to athletic contests and to the injuries occurred on the playing field are part of the price which the English speaking race has paid for being world-conquerors."

Sen. Henry Cabot Lodge in a commencement address to the Harvard Class of 1896. (from The War Lovers by Evan Thomas, p 143)

Imperialism? Never crossed our minds.

1896? Couldnt you at least find something in the last 100 years? And imperialist actions, not words?

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You think we occupy and subjugate those nations?
Or are we there by treaty and/or at their pleasure?
Yeah, thought so.


What treaty allows us to occupy gitmo in cuba?

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They rejected the notion that "imperialism" required formal, legal control by one government over another country.

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America HAS in fact become what we fought against- a global Empire, not very much different than Britain under Victoria.

Empires occupy other lands, other nations; they control them.

We have troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, of course. We have fought wars with them and are preparing to withdraw.
I and A aside, please name the countries we occupy and control.
Global empire my ass.

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What treaty allows us to occupy gitmo in cuba?

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They rejected the notion that "imperialism" required formal, legal control by one government over another country.

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Yeah.
I don't much care that they rejected a rational definition and then redefined it to prove their anticapitalist screed.

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Empires dominate for idealogical, cultural or commercial purposes

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There you go. If you can't deal with a concept attack the authors as anti-capitalists. Know them well, do you?

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There you go. If you can't deal with a concept attack the authors as anti-capitalists. Know them well, do you?

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There you go. If you can't deal with a concept attack the authors as anti-capitalists. Know them well, do you?

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What treaty allows us to occupy gitmo in cuba?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_Naval_Base
Mentions the Cuban-American Treaty that gives the US a perpetual lease on the land.
Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban-American_Treaty

But don't be dense.  If there weren't a treaty, how else could we be there?  Reality makes it obvious that there is some kind of agreement.

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But don't be dense.

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"The treaty was part of the Platt Amendment

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Empires dominate for idealogical, cultural or commercial purposes

Russia wants Levis, China wants Coca Cola, we're an empire.
Good. Got it.
Those EEEEEVVVVIIIILLLL capitalists.

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"The treaty was part of the Platt Amendment

So. Like I said. Treaty.

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at gunpoint

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On the other hand we proudly boast we are the world's superpower and no one, not several nations, spend as much as we do on armaments.

Thank God.

'splain that, lucy.

It's a dangerous world, kid. I go armed. So does my family. So does Lady Liberty.