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RE: Dr. Laura... an updated Good Wife? - 8/11/2010 3:46:23 PM   
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To say I agree with binding of souls and hearts, when you have no idea how I live, or what I do believe in, is just as wrong as me forming a solid opinion of Dr Laura without having all the facts.  



When you said, in your op that her way is how all women should be, that's when you went wrong. If you want to follow her advice because it speaks to your authentic self, no problem. It's when you espouse every woman being required to be like this. Or don't you believe women can be dominant?


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RE: Dr. Laura... an updated Good Wife? - 8/11/2010 4:17:49 PM   
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DesFIP,

Lets take it from the top.   First, nowhere did I say "all women should be like this", that would be ridiculous, please don't put words in my mouth, I have enough trouble with the ones that belong there.

Because "I" happen to love serving, why would I assume you did as well?  And, what could possibly posess me to post such nonsense on a BDSM forum that has a host of dominant women?  

You are a dominant woman, great, knock yourself out, I may not agree with it, but I give you that right, as a person, to find your niche.   I don't have the same option?  So that when I hear something that speaks to me...as a person, to share it?   Last I looked, this was a forum for quite a variety of people, with all sorts of likes and dislikes, I have just as much right to create a post as the next person, about something that I found "to my liking".   Not your liking....my liking.

Yes, I believe there are dominant women, look around this forum!  I would be kinda silly to sit here and say otherwise, lol   It's all about my right to post about something "I" find interesting, wanting to share it with others who may agree....it's ok if you don't, thats what makes the world spin :)

I don't think I went "wrong", I may have spoken on a sore subject matter without realizing it, but my beliefs have not changed.    Personally, I thrive in a male dominated world, understanding that not all do :)

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RE: Dr. Laura... an updated Good Wife? - 8/12/2010 3:10:24 AM   
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DesFip is no Dominant, as far as I know.

I think you are getting so much trouble on this topic, not because people disagree with your views on private male led relationships if this is what both partners desire, but because Dr. Laura espouses a male led public world as well as male led relationship by default, and you seem to be agreeing with her.

If a woman wants to b subservient to her man, or even to all men, that is her decision, and rightly so. However, Dr. Laura advocates this subsidiary role for all woman, and this is where you will meet with resistance, not only from dominant, but from submissive woman, too. Many woman who are submissive in their relationships, would never dream of taking this role in their professional, or social life. Plus, as has already been pointed out, you can only give up such power, as was yours to begin with.



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RE: Dr. Laura... an updated Good Wife? - 8/12/2010 5:01:14 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: AlwaysLisa

To say I agree with binding of souls and hearts, when you have no idea how I live, or what I do believe in, is just as wrong as me forming a solid opinion of Dr Laura without having all the facts.  



When you said, in your op that her way is how all women should be, that's when you went wrong. If you want to follow her advice because it speaks to your authentic self, no problem. It's when you espouse every woman being required to be like this. Or don't you believe women can be dominant?



I didn't see that in the op at all. I saw where she said she had never heard of Dr L before and I saw where she liked what she heard on that one show and was interested in learning more. Then later in the thread you accused her of believing anything Dr L said here...


"Everyone ought to be empowered and encouraged to become their authentic selves. Not something you'll ever hear her say. She believes in everyone being stunted into her model. I don't believe in binding feet or hearts and souls. Apparently the op differs in that. "

As the thread progressed and the OP learned more about the good Dr, her opinion has changed. Now maybe you were born knowing instinctively when someone is a bigoted cunt, but most people have to learn about someone before making that determination.

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RE: Dr. Laura... an updated Good Wife? - 8/12/2010 1:59:21 PM   
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Well that got sorted out.......

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RE: Dr. Laura... an updated Good Wife? - 8/13/2010 7:29:57 AM   
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As quickly as I diss Dr. Laura I end up agreeing with her wholeheartedly:

Dr. Laura apologizes for using the N word

She may feel bad about what she said or using the epithet to make her point but she was spot on.


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RE: Dr. Laura... an updated Good Wife? - 8/13/2010 5:26:16 PM   
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Yeah. I find using the nigger word controversy interesting as well. I didnt hear the show. But certainly I wonder what dr laura would have said if instead of the word nigger, the woman claimed her husbands friends were all calling her say, fatso. Would dr laura say that overweight people need to have a sense of humor about weight?

I've listened to Dr Laura because Im alwasy interested in her shock value. She'll tell someone that their mother is a worthless lousy parent and send the person away in tears. Now THERES good psychology! Helpful for sure! Nothing like tearing a person down to their core then kicking them off the air! Next! lol

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RE: Dr. Laura... an updated Good Wife? - 8/13/2010 7:18:54 PM   
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Yeah. I find using the nigger word controversy interesting as well. I didnt hear the show. But certainly I wonder what dr laura would have said if instead of the word nigger, the woman claimed her husbands friends were all calling her say, fatso. Would dr laura say that overweight people need to have a sense of humor about weight?


That's a fair comment. To clarify, when I said she was spot on I was referring to all of the places where we can hear that term used daily. All of the examples she gave were spot on. I guess the debate about why it is okay in some circles and verboten in others is a debate that will go on forever. She was wrong to suggest that a sense of humor is in order. What really perplexes me is how the husband even permits such in his home. I've always considered her to be more of a radio celebrity than any sort of credible psychologist.


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RE: Dr. Laura... an updated Good Wife? - 8/13/2010 7:27:44 PM   
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If Dr. Laura said women are the cause behind divorces, she is so right! I'm a divorce lawyer; I speak from experience. In general, women SUCK!!!!

Okay, men suck too, but in an totally different WAY!!!!!!

The world would be Better if women never had money; then they would be more respectful and considerate to their men - to survive. All this money - and bias towards them in family court - gives rein to their vicious selfishness! Women SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

I say again, "Women Suck!!!!!"

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RE: Dr. Laura... an updated Good Wife? - 8/13/2010 7:56:12 PM   
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Edited after I looked at your profile...

You should give all your money to your male subs and let them control your relationship... stand by your words here

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RE: Dr. Laura... an updated Good Wife? - 8/13/2010 7:59:57 PM   
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I do!
And they do a good job@!
They're GREAT!
I jest not!

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RE: Dr. Laura... an updated Good Wife? - 8/13/2010 8:06:42 PM   
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So basically you think women should have no money unless they are you... um, okay

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RE: Dr. Laura... an updated Good Wife? - 8/13/2010 8:21:34 PM   
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I don't have money!
Gosh, read what I wrote..
My husband and my subbies do a great job!
Give it to me!
I rely on them!
WAKE UP and READ~!
Luv my hubby! He's sooo handsome! I wished his looks would never leave him... He's to die for!


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RE: Dr. Laura... an updated Good Wife? - 8/13/2010 8:23:20 PM   
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The point is, divorce law generally favors women, or the wrong doer. And women are vicious with their power. They are corrupted by it.

They are just as bad as a man with power.

"Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely."
Lord Acton

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RE: Dr. Laura... an updated Good Wife? - 8/13/2010 8:25:47 PM   
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It must be hard for you being a woman in power... since you are so corrupted by it

I think your generalizations are gross and incorrect.... but that is just me, someone who didn't get anything from my divorce and never tried to. I just wanted out

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RE: Dr. Laura... an updated Good Wife? - 8/13/2010 8:31:29 PM   
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Hmmm.........................

One can never use the general in the specific.

But the point is, regardless of whether you tried to "get anything out of it," is beside the point! BESIDE the POINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A divorce, in many circumstances, is a violent tearing apart. Money is not the worst of it. Having your heart ripped from your chest is the worst. Women rip hearts... their husbands' and their children's... for light and transient causes...

Women have no anchor. They rip up the worlds of so many people, for their multi-shaded moody reasons.

Sinful, selfish, shrews.... Without gratitude or perspective....

Tragic. tragedy to the children. Tragedy, the children are torn to shreds, while Momma declares herself "the happiest girl in the world!"

Sick.

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RE: Dr. Laura... an updated Good Wife? - 8/13/2010 9:08:04 PM   
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Hmmm... he beat me, cheated on me, and left me at my mom's with only 5 bucks and two weeks worth of clothes and wouldn't come get me and his infant son... so I decided not to go back... I know it is a trivial thing, being cheated on and beaten... I am such a bitch for leaving

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RE: Dr. Laura... an updated Good Wife? - 8/13/2010 9:14:03 PM   
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"one can never use the general in the specific"!

And actually, being cheated on by a man, almost is a trivial thing.
As a sweet man I know wrote, he doesn't have a penis, a penis has him!

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RE: Dr. Laura... an updated Good Wife? - 8/13/2010 9:18:24 PM   
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Wow, you and I have a completely different world view...

Welcome to the boards... "preposterous"

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RE: Dr. Laura... an updated Good Wife? - 8/13/2010 9:22:37 PM   
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Of course we have different world views.

I do dozens of divorces each year.
I don't focus on one.

And I know, when the law gives women leverage, they don't hesitate to use it to do damage. They embrace the damage they can do! They are thrilled with the power they have in the situation.

It's dirty.


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