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N.Y. bus ad showing mosque, burning WTC towers OK'd - 8/11/2010 12:32:07 AM   
Brain


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Status: offline 		A mosque is not a monument of terrorism, it is a place of worship, a place of peace. Allow it to be built, then monitor its activites. If it is shown to support terrorism, then the symbolism of bulldozing the mosque to the ground would be much more powerful than just preventing its erection in the first place.


N.Y. bus ad showing mosque, burning WTC towers OK'd

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38633928/ns/us_news/

This is the ad that the American Freedom Defense Initiative sued to get placed on N.Y. buses.





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RE: N.Y. bus ad showing mosque, burning WTC towers OK'd - 8/11/2010 12:54:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		personally I just don't see what the big deal is....just how far from the WTC site is far enough for a mosque...3 blocks, 30, 300...10 miles....its not like they are planning on building a mosque on the WTC site for fuck's sake


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RE: N.Y. bus ad showing mosque, burning WTC towers OK'd - 8/11/2010 4:57:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Moniter it's activities ? How in the world are you going to do that ? Maybe since we are being nice and letting them build it, they will let us put cameras in it.

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RE: N.Y. bus ad showing mosque, burning WTC towers OK'd - 8/11/2010 8:18:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		The ad's also wrong.  They don't even have the funds for the mosque yet and there is no planned opening date.  The Sept 11 2011 date was literally pulled out of someone's ass.

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RE: N.Y. bus ad showing mosque, burning WTC towers OK'd - 8/11/2010 8:23:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Personally, I can see why it would upset New Yorkers.  I know not all muslims are terrorists and I'm sure they do too, but alot of people in that area lost alot of loved ones because terrorists, who also pray to jihad or the same god that people will be honoring in that mosque. 

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RE: N.Y. bus ad showing mosque, burning WTC towers OK'd - 8/11/2010 8:27:33 AM   
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RE: N.Y. bus ad showing mosque, burning WTC towers OK'd - 8/11/2010 8:29:24 AM   
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RE: N.Y. bus ad showing mosque, burning WTC towers OK'd - 8/11/2010 8:30:18 AM   
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RE: N.Y. bus ad showing mosque, burning WTC towers OK'd - 8/11/2010 8:30:56 AM   
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building 7 was imploded.


Cordoba House, I believe is the projected name of the building in question. There's an area of debate centered around that name and the caliphate jihadists are sworn to restore.

Spelling errors may dominate the above.


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RE: N.Y. bus ad showing mosque, burning WTC towers OK'd - 8/11/2010 8:36:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Moniter it's activities ? How in the world are you going to do that ? Maybe since we are being nice and letting them build it, they will let us put cameras in it.



We? You would do no such thing. From your posts I think you could be a little more tolerant of your fellow Americans.


Who really cares? After Timothy McViegh blew up Oklahoma it seemed that white folk could still pretty much do whatever they wanted.

Try being an American for a change. It really is not for everyone. It's hard.

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RE: N.Y. bus ad showing mosque, burning WTC towers OK'd - 8/11/2010 8:38:14 AM   
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RE: N.Y. bus ad showing mosque, burning WTC towers OK'd - 8/11/2010 8:40:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		--  I would think that would be an expensive piece of real estate.   Who is behind the funding?

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RE: N.Y. bus ad showing mosque, burning WTC towers OK'd - 8/11/2010 8:41:59 AM   
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RE: N.Y. bus ad showing mosque, burning WTC towers OK'd - 8/11/2010 8:45:02 AM   
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The NWO of course.

Hunky. you are a tool of the Dewalt Corporation!



LOL.   on tools.  yummy.

If we are ok with the old world order- then why are we in 2 wars?

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RE: N.Y. bus ad showing mosque, burning WTC towers OK'd - 8/11/2010 9:18:07 AM   
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We chose to go to war, we choose to remain in a war... or not.

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RE: N.Y. bus ad showing mosque, burning WTC towers OK'd - 8/11/2010 9:20:12 AM   
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What does any "world order" have to do with being in 2 wars?  I realize that you believe there is some massive organization running the planet, but that doesn't mean it's true.

We chose to go to war, we choose to remain in a war... or not.



Because the powers that be insist on controlling it all.  including the 2 nations who did not want to be controlled.

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RE: N.Y. bus ad showing mosque, burning WTC towers OK'd - 8/11/2010 9:42:19 AM   
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personally I just don't see what the big deal is....just how far from the WTC site is far enough for a mosque...3 blocks, 30, 300...10 miles....its not like they are planning on building a mosque on the WTC site for fuck's sake



this victory mosque rises above the buildings around it and would be plainly visible from the new WTC. Try losing people close to you in a terrorist attack and youll see how big a deal it is, for fuck's sake.

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RE: N.Y. bus ad showing mosque, burning WTC towers OK'd - 8/11/2010 9:51:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		There are folks who actually find a way to look at cars, sit in them,  and even operate them, after losing their family in a vehicle accident. There are people that wear suits at the place where they see their loved one in the casket wearing suits. There are people who advocate war across this globe even now, after all the death in Iraq for no reason.There are people who still eat after watching their loved ones choke to death on a KFC bone.  

If those people can only connect american mosques to that event and thats what they get out of it and the republicans should have voted money for their treatment in that bill they resoundly defeated, because there is a great deal of mental issues to deal with out there.
  

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RE: N.Y. bus ad showing mosque, burning WTC towers OK'd - 8/11/2010 10:08:05 AM   
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RE: N.Y. bus ad showing mosque, burning WTC towers OK'd - 8/11/2010 10:28:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Louve00

Personally, I can see why it would upset New Yorkers.  I know not all muslims are terrorists and I'm sure they do too, but alot of people in that area lost alot of loved ones because terrorists, who also pray to jihad or the same god that people will be honoring in that mosque. 


Considering that the Catholic church instituted the doctrine of holy war (aka jihad) under St. Augustine, would you also oppose the construction of one of their churches in that area, or is it just mosques? I would be inclined to assume that it is just mosques raising people's ire, but I would be happy to be shown wrong in this.

It is easy for us humans to ascribe fault to the wrong thing, to project a problem onto a larger group than is actually to blame for the event we are responding emotionally to. That eventually leads to things like the Holocaust. Or, on a much smaller scale of destruction and loss: ramming a few planes through office buildings.

When we don't pay attention to history, only the players change, while the story stays the same.

Scratch your 9/11 against the 9/11's you have pulled, and start with a fresh scoreboard.

That's how progress is made, and you don't need to be Ghandi to see it.

BTW, Allah probably didn't tell anyone to ram the twin towers...

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