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Jeffff -> RE: What must a Master do to keep you? (8/14/2010 1:07:39 PM)
I don't belong in this thread because I am going to be who I am. I am somewhat flexible, but mostly I am just who I am. So either I am the right person or I am not. Sometimes I feel women see men as a boxed cake mix. They feel they can whip up the ingredients, add a few things and bang!, they have a cake. Most of us are already baked. The best they can hope for is to add a little frosting.

kiwisub12 -> RE: What must a Master do to keep you? (8/14/2010 1:08:07 PM)
I agree with a previous poster - one thing a dominant must be for me - is observant. I met a prospective playpartner/possible dominant in Barnes and Noble -and whilst talking and walking (so small children and animals wouldn't be shocked at the conversation), he told me that when i became aroused i shifted my weight onto my left foot ........................ and damned if he wasn't correct! I was shocked that he would have noticed - and impressed that he was watching me that closely to even observe such a thing. edited to add - i didn't notice that i was doing it. I can only imagine how that eagle eye would work for him in a relationship. It was actually a bit scary to have someone read me that well. [:D]

VaguelyCurious -> RE: What must a Master do to keep you? (8/14/2010 1:22:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: leadership527 The more I think about it though, the more I think that I probably shouldn't have responded on this thread. Obviously where you post is entirely up to you, but I disagree-just because an answer isn't what the specific OP is looking for doesn't mean it won't click with someone reading the thread. Your answer was accurate for your relationship, and I think that's the best anyone has to offer-the variety of dynamics is one of the reasons I like CM. [:)]

laurell3 -> RE: What must a Master do to keep you? (8/14/2010 2:28:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jeffff I don't belong in this thread because I am going to be who I am. I am somewhat flexible, but mostly I am just who I am. So either I am the right person or I am not. Sometimes I feel women see men as a boxed cake mix. They feel they can whip up the ingredients, add a few things and bang!, they have a cake. Most of us are already baked. The best they can hope for is to add a little frosting. Who you are is fantastic though and you are a good example of how you cannot remove the dominant from the man and vice versa. I'll eat that cake over all others any day.

sweetsub1957 -> RE: What must a Master do to keep you? (8/14/2010 4:35:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jaybeee Have you ever had a relationship end because he wasn't masterful enough? What precisely did he fail to live up to your standards? No, not because He wasn't "masterful" enough, but because He lied. I've had more than one relationship end because He lied....usually about being married. They didn't necessarilly end because of the married part, but because of the lied about it part. In the first place, I can't stand lying. Also, if either partner lies, where then is the trust? ~sweetsub~

Jeffff -> RE: What must a Master do to keep you? (8/14/2010 4:38:04 PM)
My cake is cream filled...:)

VaguelyCurious -> RE: What must a Master do to keep you? (8/14/2010 4:40:04 PM)
Unfortunately, so is youe sense of humour.

delicatelydirty -> RE: What must a Master do to keep you? (8/14/2010 4:43:20 PM)
I have noticed in my relationships that if the basic foundations start to weaken, trust, love communication then the whole D/s component is the first thing to go, I can't submit if I don't feel safe emotionally because I go into survival mode and start shutting down my feelings and I will refuse to let anyone near me. So if the D type wants to maintain that part of the relationship then he has to ensure that he is being honest and open and in fairness my requirement is the same.

laurell3 -> RE: What must a Master do to keep you? (8/14/2010 4:43:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jeffff My cake is cream filled...:) I haven't missed that detail!

sexyred1 -> RE: What must a Master do to keep you? (8/14/2010 4:48:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jeffff Sometimes I feel women see men as a boxed cake mix. They feel they can whip up the ingredients, add a few things and bang!, they have a cake. Most of us are already baked. The best they can hope for is to add a little frosting. Unfortunately, most of you are already baked, but missing key ingredients that renders the cake inedible. Frosting does not cover that up and too many show their frosting and not what the cake really tastes like. How fun to use a cake metaphor. [;)]

kiwisub12 -> RE: What must a Master do to keep you? (8/14/2010 5:10:16 PM)
and sometimes that cream filling is not intentional - but unbaked cake mix! some of the cakes need a bit more time in the oven before eating. And some are overbaked and dry but man, when you find the right cake - moist, tasty and just right - all the other bad cakes become just a memory. [:D]

sexyred1 -> RE: What must a Master do to keep you? (8/14/2010 5:12:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kiwisub12 and sometimes that cream filling is not intentional - but unbaked cake mix! some of the cakes need a bit more time in the oven before eating. And some are overbaked and dry but man, when you find the right cake - moist, tasty and just right - all the other bad cakes become just a memory. [:D] I agree. And then again, there are always brownies. [:D]

kiwisub12 -> RE: What must a Master do to keep you? (8/14/2010 5:19:13 PM)
coughslutcough ......................... some of us can stop at cake and don't have to go on to brownies, and meringes and cookies and peanut brittle and pavlova and baklava and ................................................ [&o] damn it - now i'm a slut too. sheesh.

Jeffff -> RE: What must a Master do to keep you? (8/14/2010 5:28:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious Unfortunately, so is youe sense of humour. I only put up with you because you are cute. Does your mum like........cake?

VaguelyCurious -> RE: What must a Master do to keep you? (8/14/2010 5:29:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jeffff Does your mum like........cake? If by that you mean 'would she eat you alive and then polish off the leftovers for breakfast?' then probably.

Jeffff -> RE: What must a Master do to keep you? (8/14/2010 5:53:42 PM)
It's a start!

sexyred1 -> RE: What must a Master do to keep you? (8/14/2010 6:28:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kiwisub12 coughslutcough ......................... some of us can stop at cake and don't have to go on to brownies, and meringes and cookies and peanut brittle and pavlova and baklava and ................................................ [&o] damn it - now i'm a slut too. sheesh. See how easy it is to be slutty (about cake, of course). :)

Jadedobserver -> RE: What must a Master do to keep you? (8/17/2010 10:18:16 AM)
Hi everyone. This is my first post under this name. I haven't written anything in a long time, only read. But this post made me want to respond. And when I went to use my regular name, I found it wasn't working. So here's a new one for me. I really don't want to take excerpts from particular posts. I guess I more want to make a more general comment. I read a number of posts in which female slaves/subs mentioned that he failed to live up to being a master in different ways. I guess what got me in the first post and then a lot of the responses was I saw in them some of the women I've known from groups I belonged to in the past. Mind you, these aren't the actual women, it just sounds like what they always said. See, when I belonged to these groups and clubs, I never really fit in as a sub. So mostly I sat back, watched and listened. What I saw were female "slaves" who were nothing more than girlfriends and wifes who, although they'd never admit it, demanded to be the ones in charge. It's the same as vanilla life. I saw over and over again, women who would sit down with me in private and tell me how much they wanted their man to dominate them or be masterful, but as soon as he made a decision she didn't like, she'd tell every other woman in the group what a complete moron he was. And usually, the statement would end with, "he's not a real master". Sorry, looking back I'm thinking I'm getting off topic so let me try to sum it up. From my experience, if a sub woman tells you what her master must do to keep her, if he does exactly that, that's what will make her walk away because he obviously has no clue what he's doing. I've seen it time after time. If she says he needs to be warm and sensitive and he is, then she complains that he's not the ruthless, cruel fantasy dom she reads about in stories. If she says she wants him to be more like the controlling dom, then she'll walk away complaining that he simply wanted an unpaid maid or whore and he didn't care for her needs. Just my obervation.

Twoshoes -> RE: What must a Master do to keep you? (8/17/2010 11:24:42 AM)
Slutty is definately the best type of cake lover. Although, slutty-in-denial cake lover might be even better. quote: Most of us are already baked. Jefffff - Baked in more ways than one... Don't call the ATF.

leadership527 -> RE: What must a Master do to keep you? (8/17/2010 11:34:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jadedobserver I've seen it time after time. If she says he needs to be warm and sensitive and he is, then she complains that he's not the ruthless, cruel fantasy dom she reads about in stories. If she says she wants him to be more like the controlling dom, then she'll walk away complaining that he simply wanted an unpaid maid or whore and he didn't care for her needs. Just my obervation. Well, far be it from me to question your observations. Your life experience is, of course, your own. But I can absolutely attest to you that this is not how it is between Carol and I. She and I are both reasonably mature, honest, strong and self-aware individuals. If Carol tells me she needs some warmth, then it's a pretty safe guess that that's exactly what she needs. Isn't this what the word "trust" means? In addition, I'm perfectly willing to satisfy Carol's demands upon me. She wants to be loved and nurtured.... both things I'd do in a total vacuum solely on the basis of how special I think she is as an individual. Insofar as her expectation that I lead well, that seems to me to be a no-brainer. I was the one who wanted to be a master. It seems perfectly reasonable to expect that I do the job well. Whether all of that means she's "really in control" or not a question that just isn't relevant to us.

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