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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

This article provides the truth about anchor babies... which is an article that presents both sides.. here is some of the article. It leaves out an important point... 80% of undocumented mothers were here for over a year before giving birth, negating Grahams assertion that they "drop and leave"....

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snip/It sounds like a way for illegal immigrants to get a foothold in the United States: Pregnant women from Mexico and other countries can come to the U.S. to deliver their babies. Voila! Under the 14th Amendment, the babies are instant citizens!/snip



snip/t's important to note that having an "anchor baby" won't do much to help a Mexican mom become a U.S. citizen. Because citizen children cannot sponsor their parents for citizenship until they turn 21 -- and because if the parents were ever illegal, they would have to return home for 10 years before applying to come in -- having a baby to secure citizenship for its parents is an extremely long-term, and uncertain, process./snip

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

The point is having an anchor baby does nothing to anchor you for 21 freaking years... and if you get caught and deported, add 10 more years on to that total

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The greatest of those advantages may be the ability of the citizen child to later sponsor the legal immigration of his or her entire family permanently to this country, experts say.

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

I was going to title a thread,......The Slowest Way To Citizenship.......

You beat me too it.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

I was going to title a thread,......The Slowest Way To Citizenship.......

You beat me too it.

That would have been a better thread title, DAMN

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It's estimated that 1 in 12 children born in the US is born to an illegal-immigrant parent.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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It's estimated that 1 in 12 children born in the US is born to an illegal-immigrant parent.

This is the statistic that pisses me off the most... how many are born to TWO illegal parents, not ONE. If your parent is a US citizen, even ONE OF THEM, you should not be in this statistic. Geesh, our service people make babies all over the world, are those kids entitled to US citizenship?

I am not for illegal immigration, but I am against fear mongering, targeting only the brown skinned side of our border, and hate mongering... I am also against the exploitation of human beings,which makes me doubly against illegal immigration because these people are often exploited.

Why isn't there a fence being built between Canada and the US? They have come here illegally too, for crying out loud. I can tell you why, because Mexicans are a different color and they speak a different language, and they have a far different culture than Canadians.

My biggest problem with our approach to illegal immigration is that we do not look at the causes of this problem, some of which we can leave at our own back door, namely the destabilizing force of illegal drug trafficking. For decades our war on drugs has led to a waterfall of corrupting cash being flushed into the Mexican economy. This in turn has destabilized their government and their economy. We now have Mexican gang violence HERE on our side of the border... why? because the war on drugs. We have to look at what we are doing on this side of the border that creates problems to the South of us, and unless we do so we will not stop the problem. So we either need to prosecute employers who hire illegals and set up some system to do so and we need to legalize drugs, or we need to shut the fuck up because we aren't willing to do the necessary things to stop the problem....

Be prepared to pay a lot more to get your car washed, your yard landscaped, and for produce at your local market once we stop the flow, I welcome paying more to stop the exploitation, but something tells me that the very people pissing and moaning about illegals are going to be the same ones pissing and moaning about paying more for their lettuce

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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It's estimated that 1 in 12 children born in the US is born to an illegal-immigrant parent.

This is the statistic that pisses me off the most... how many are born to TWO illegal parents, not ONE. If your parent is a US citizen, even ONE OF THEM, you should not be in this statistic. Geesh, our service people make babies all over the world, are those kids entitled to US citizenship?

I am not for illegal immigration, but I am against fear mongering, targeting only the brown skinned side of our border, and hate mongering... I am also against the exploitation of human beings,which makes me doubly against illegal immigration because these people are often exploited.

Why isn't there a fence being built between Canada and the US? They have come here illegally too, for crying out loud. I can tell you why, because Mexicans are a different color and they speak a different language, and they have a far different culture than Canadians.

My biggest problem with our approach to illegal immigration is that we do not look at the causes of this problem, some of which we can leave at our own back door, namely the destabilizing force of illegal drug trafficking. For decades our war on drugs has led to a waterfall of corrupting cash being flushed into the Mexican economy. This in turn has destabilized their government and their economy. We now have Mexican gang violence HERE on our side of the border... why? because the war on drugs. We have to look at what we are doing on this side of the border that creates problems to the South of us, and unless we do so we will not stop the problem. So we either need to prosecute employers who hire illegals and set up some system to do so and we need to legalize drugs, or we need to shut the fuck up because we aren't willing to do the necessary things to stop the problem....

Be prepared to pay a lot more to get your car washed, your yard landscaped, and for produce at your local market once we stop the flow, I welcome paying more to stop the exploitation, but something tells me that the very people pissing and moaning about illegals are going to be the same ones pissing and moaning about paying more for their lettuce

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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The greatest of those advantages may be the ability of the citizen child to later sponsor the legal immigration of his or her entire family permanently to this country, experts say.

I love it when a news article says that

Yet, having kids here is about the slowest path to legal status that there is....

Here are the facts, the USA is no longer the golden land of opportunity it once was, and that is not because of immigrants. Immigrants have kept our country competitive.Foreign students out perform our own in math and science.

Frankly we have a situation in which city governments are so broke they are ending bus service, unpaving their roads, and closing libraries... honestly, if it gets worse we might be illegally immigrating for opportunities ourselves. So your panic and hysteria, which is typical during an economic downtown such as we are experiencing, is really an overreaction, they are going to stop coming on their own because there is nothing for them here.

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Bullshit.

Fences aren't built along the Canadian border because millions of Canadians aren't flooding the country. In fact, Canada probably has to worry more about illegal immigration from the US than vice-versa. I worked there for 5 years and carried a Canadian work permit. I had to go through immigration each time, stand in line for hours sometimes, produce my documentation, provide a copy of some nafta letter, pay my fee. A friend of mine who does the same work, didn't want to bother with getting the work permit, lied about the reason she was entering the country, was caught and banned for a year. The legal ramifications at the time included 10 years in prison and a rather large fine.

This has nothing to do with their fucking skin color. It has a lot to do with the en masse invasion. I am, by far, not against people south of the border coming to the US to work. I am not against people trying to better their lives, or in some cases, survive. The problem I do have is that we can't seem to figure out a viable solution to the problem and it is a problem. In actuality, the fix is fairly simple. Target those who hire them with prison terms and fines. Fix the work visa system.

The problem I have with the entire thing is one side wants to throw them all out, the other does nothing but endlessly wring their hands and concoct reasons why it isn't a problem, and even if it was, why we can;t fix it.