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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

A strategic planning site for future terror attacks, a foot in the door to start lobbying for Sharia, and in general fundie Muslims having a trophy Mosque in which to piss on their enemies.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

To use an earlier quote of yours, slightly altered. "If you want to believe this Imam has nothing but warlike intent by wanting to build his center, nothing I say can change your mind."

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

I'd say his conclusion says it best

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Abdul Rauf uses stealth strategies that make it difficult to detect their Shariah driven agenda and while under the guise of interfaith dialogue and building bridges in what they say in English. In Arabic the statements are clear—the bridge is to build Shariah.

If you want to believe this Imam has nothing but peaceful intent by wanting to build his center, nothing I say can change your mind.

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If you don't want a religious theocracy, speak out against things like Prop 8 and "abstinence only education" and anyone questioning Obama's religion. That's where the danger is. That's your culture, acting just as fucktarded as some people in their culture.

It wasn't too long ago that our religious fundamentalists were bombing abortion clinics, gleefully murdering abortion doctors and any other staff that happened to be there. Religious terrorism at its finest. Theocracy in America won't come as a stealthy sharia takeover, it'll come in the bills crafted by the "religious right" in our own backyard.

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ORIGINAL: Elisabella

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

I'd say his conclusion says it best

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Abdul Rauf uses stealth strategies that make it difficult to detect their Shariah driven agenda and while under the guise of interfaith dialogue and building bridges in what they say in English. In Arabic the statements are clear—the bridge is to build Shariah.

If you want to believe this Imam has nothing but peaceful intent by wanting to build his center, nothing I say can change your mind.

That's not even a quote from the Imam, that's just the author's opinion.

I don't think that anyone wants to turn the US into a Muslim theocracy or replace constitutional law with sharia law.

If anything, though, that fear should encourage people to keep religion and politics separate, as the founding fathers intended. Maybe when the first Muslim politician runs on a platform of "sharia values" a lot of people will finally wake up and see what they've done by using trying to inject their own religious values into the workings of the state.

If you don't want a religious theocracy, speak out against things like Prop 8 and "abstinence only education" and anyone questioning Obama's religion. That's where the danger is. That's your culture, acting just as fucktarded as some people in their culture.

It wasn't too long ago that our religious fundamentalists were bombing abortion clinics, gleefully murdering abortion doctors and any other staff that happened to be there. Religious terrorism at its finest. Theocracy in America won't come as a stealthy sharia takeover, it'll come in the bills crafted by the "religious right" in our own backyard.

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A strategic planning site for future terror attacks, a foot in the door to start lobbying for Sharia, and in general fundie Muslims having a trophy Mosque in which to piss on their enemies.

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If anything, though, that fear should encourage people to keep religion and politics separate, as the founding fathers intended. Maybe when the first Muslim politician runs on a platform of "sharia values" a lot of people will finally wake up and see what they've done by using trying to inject their own religious values into the workings of the state.

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Theocracy in America won't come as a stealthy sharia takeover, it'll come in the bills crafted by the "religious right" in our own backyard.

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I don't think that anyone wants to turn the US into a Muslim theocracy or replace constitutional law with sharia law.

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

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ORIGINAL: Elisabella
I don't think that anyone wants to turn the US into a Muslim theocracy or replace constitutional law with sharia law.

I really liked your post but have to disagree with this part, there are people who have expressly stated this as their goal.

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967
You have to admit that since the 60's progressive movement the U.S. has seen quite a dramatic rise in STD's, teen pregnancies, drug abuse, and violent crime, but there can't be any correlation, now can there?

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There is only one group on this thread that is being pushy about their belief system, and it isn't theists...

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ORIGINAL: GambitLeBeau

Would you agree with parents having total control over what their children are taught?

Faith schools teach their religion like fact- surely this needs to be moderated, and a real religious education brought in as standard, across the world? Indoctrination should not be tolerated.