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RE: What makes a submissive feel controlled? - 4/22/2006 6:07:11 AM   
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I would have to say I feel the most controlled when I get that "look" that tells me he is amused by my rationalizations, but not fooled at all into letting me get away with whatever I may be trying, (even subconciously), to get away with.

I have to really know I can't think circles around my dominant.

(Having a fist in my hair, and deep voice whispering "Mine!" in my ear really works too. )

Cin


Hehhehheh.....
 
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RE: What makes a submissive feel controlled? - 4/22/2006 6:45:26 AM   
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when this one trusts her Owners and feels safe in their hands ...she is then able to let go and give up her own control ............she takes baby steps towards this goal daily....as they work with her and nurture her.....for when this one begs collar......she will no longer have any control left...all is in her Owners hands

trust + safe=letting go  >  100%Owners control

not all are able to keep this one on her knees and in her place,(97% are not capable)......... but shes been there briefly a time or two.................but as trust issues came into play this one could not let go of her control

it doesnt always to do with yanking a girls hair back


fyre, I loved your answer.
 
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RE: What makes a submissive feel controlled? - 4/22/2006 7:35:05 AM   
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My relationship with my Lord has progressed to a point where I do not “feel controlled” for the most part.  In play is mostly when I feel it now.  However, that doesn’t mean that I am not being controlled on a daily basis in many different ways, I just don’t feel it anymore.  The actions and thoughts have just become normal behavior for us.

I remember when I first said to him that I wanted to be his.  He gave me instructions on how to address him; I was to use Sir at the beginning and end of sentence or thought.  At first it was the difficult to remember and I felt controlled by having to do it.  A year later and the use of “my Lord” in this way is second nature and done without thought.  There are many things that he has introduced into my life to exert his control upon me and with all of them I at first felt controlled and now they are just part of my life.  I once made the comment to him that it all just felt normal and natural.  He just smiled and said “Good, that is the way I want it.”

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RE: What makes a submissive feel controlled? - 4/22/2006 10:12:12 AM   
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My relationship with my Lord has progressed to a point where I do not “feel controlled” for the most part.  In play is mostly when I feel it now.  However, that doesn’t mean that I am not being controlled on a daily basis in many different ways, I just don’t feel it anymore.  The actions and thoughts have just become normal behavior for us.

I remember when I first said to him that I wanted to be his.  He gave me instructions on how to address him; I was to use Sir at the beginning and end of sentence or thought.  At first it was the difficult to remember and I felt controlled by having to do it.  A year later and the use of “my Lord” in this way is second nature and done without thought.  There are many things that he has introduced into my life to exert his control upon me and with all of them I at first felt controlled and now they are just part of my life.  I once made the comment to him that it all just felt normal and natural.  He just smiled and said “Good, that is the way I want it.”

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A beautiful answer, kyra. And it leads to further thought, for me.... it seems some crave or need to feel controlled... should the goal be to surpass that, into a more natural state of obedience? Of course, different strokes for different folks, but I'd like to hear from everyone on this too....
 
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RE: What makes a submissive feel controlled? - 4/22/2006 4:02:58 PM   
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A beautiful answer, kyra. And it leads to further thought, for me.... it seems some crave or need to feel controlled... should the goal be to surpass that, into a more natural state of obedience? Of course, different strokes for different folks, but I'd like to hear from everyone on this too....
 
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For me, it's never been a question of being controlled per se...it never can be as I'm far too stubborn and selfish for that.  I will give of myself, but only to a certain point as there will always be a part I reserve for myself.  He is aware of this; he understands that dynamic.

Under certain circumstances I will give up more control than I normally would.  Then again, I'm not terribly disobedient to begin with...I guess that would be my natural state of obedience.   He isn't interested in changing that.



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RE: What makes a submissive feel controlled? - 4/22/2006 4:28:46 PM   
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At this time i am away from Master but we are working on me  moving to be with Him permanantly.  When being long distance it is all the things He has given me to do such as a journal i write and send to Him everyday and my daily routine.
 When i am with Master it is sitting quietly at His feet when He may choose to use me for a foot or leg rest ,  our morning ritual when i take Him His coffee,  waiting  kneeling at the door when He comes home from work, kneeling naked and begging entrance to His home when i come into His house.  Even when He tells me to sit in the slave room for a few hours alone and do nothing i feel His control as if He is there watching over me.
   As Master and i progressed deeper and deeper into the M/s relationship we have it seemed the more control He took over me the more i wanted and needed Him to take.  This could be something as small as what i could watch on tv to asking permission for almost everything i wanted to do. 


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RE: What makes a submissive feel controlled? - 4/22/2006 4:28:59 PM   
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(Having a fist in my hair, and deep voice whispering "Mine!" in my ear really works too. )

Cin


Oh YES!  Just Him saying to this girl:  "Mine."  Owned. Controlled.  The look in His eyes, the tone in His voice.  Just being in His presence.  But, damn, "Mine" does it to this girl, big time.

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RE: What makes a submissive feel controlled? - 4/22/2006 4:59:00 PM   
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A beautiful answer, kyra. And it leads to further thought, for me.... it seems some crave or need to feel controlled... should the goal be to surpass that, into a more natural state of obedience? Of course, different strokes for different folks, but I'd like to hear from everyone on this too....
 
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For me the goal is just being myself.  My choice of relationships allows me the freedom to be who I am.  The result is that the expected behaviors resonate with my inner-self and they become very natural and free flowing.  One expectation is that I am to walk on my Lord’s right when he and I are alone.  When the three of us are together, he will instruct us as to who will be on the right and the other is on the left.  I find now that I naturally walk on everyone’s right and I feel uncomfortable on someone’s left and most uncomfortable on his left.  This is his control of me spilling over into other areas. 

I guess the control is felt most now when I am required to behave in the opposite manner of the normal expectation.  That is an interesting twist, I didn’t think of it like that before now.  Thanks for the question, Level; I learned something new about myself and that is always a very good thing.

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RE: What makes a submissive feel controlled? - 4/22/2006 5:02:37 PM   
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this one craves and yearns for her belly to be taken control of(this why she is a  kajira and has a Master/Mistress,lol )and brought to absolute obediance by their guidance and nurturing of her so she can be the best she can be

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RE: What makes a submissive feel controlled? - 4/22/2006 7:50:22 PM   
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it seems some crave or need to feel controlled... should the goal be to surpass that, into a more natural state of obedience?

 
The goal should be what the participants want the goal to be. ;) My natural state is already one of obedience and service.. always has been so it wouldn't have been a goal for me to try to get to where I already was. ::chuckles:: Regardless of what I feel, I 'am' controlled and that's what matters and as long as Himself keeps the power, I will continue to be controlled. My goals are geared towards personal growth which enhances me in ways which are useful to Himself so I can better serve him. This has a side benefit of being particulary good for our relationship. I am by the combination of nature and nurture, naturally submissive in my life to one who is naturally dominant. That does not manifest with those that I, personally, view as weak of mind or will. I have no doubt there are plenty who would call me a bitch as I tend to treat with disdain those I view as weak. It's a flaw and one which I don't have time to work on right now. ;) I'm too busy working on my other flaws.
 
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RE: What makes a submissive feel controlled? - 4/22/2006 7:59:48 PM   
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A beautiful answer, kyra. And it leads to further thought, for me.... it seems some crave or need to feel controlled... should the goal be to surpass that, into a more natural state of obedience? Of course, different strokes for different folks, but I'd like to hear from everyone on this too....
 
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I love feeling his control.  I am always under his power, and my state of obedience does come naturally, but I love to feel his power.  This brings me deeper into myself.  The more deeply I submit, the stronger I ache to feel him.  Our goal has been to take me as deep as I can go - into myself, and into my submission to him.  Every time I come close to reaching a point where my new depth becomes second nature...we go further.  It is quite wonderful, this exploration, and I don't think I will ever come to a point when I am not acutely aware of his power and control. 

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RE: What makes a submissive feel controlled? - 5/26/2006 9:01:14 AM   
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i have to whole heartedly agree with this aspect of it

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