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taniatv -> RE: Muslim leaders to abandon plans for Ground Zero community center (8/17/2010 8:38:56 AM)
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They do understand that people who lost loved ones in 911 might be a little upset by this building don't they?
Yes, the same way, owners of gunshops, shooting ranges, and churchs devoted to Christianity, open their doors in Oklahoma City. You might recall a pair of extremists conservatives, who did something bad on 4/19/1995. If what conservatives say is true, then should one find not a single gunshop, shooting range or church to Christianity, within the city limits.....for the last 15 years?
That's a pretty sorry analogy. Please point me to any link where there was opposition to the building of gunshops or shooting ranges in Oklahoma City.
Not really. Or are you saying all conservatives, hold the same political thoughts that Mr. McVeigh and Mr. Nicholas, held? In which case, all conservatives, are open to the idea of commiting violent and destructive attacks on the USA?
Sorry, I dont think that's true. The extreme conservatives, just like the extreme muslims, are open to such ideas. And both, make their respected philosophies look bad for 'taking matters in to their own hands', because 'the ends justify the means'. You may not have studied the militia movement back in the 90's. Some pretty scary stuff; makes the crap on Fox News sound tame and sane.
Now, why would conservative Christians, oppose a church being built? Why would muslims be opposed to a mosque being built? SAME ARGUEMENT. They (the Christians) would argue, it would be to help heal the community of such a great tragedy (In Oklahoma City). Why do these muslims want to build a mosqu? To help heal the suffering of another, great tragey (in NYC). SAME REASON, given. Why is it 'ok' for one but 'an insult' to another? Please tell me.
Besides, did Mr. Clinton try to exploit and milk 4/19/1995 for every drop it was worth? HELL NO! Did Mr. Bush try to exploit and milk 9/11/2001 for every drop it was worth? OH Hell Yeah! Or do you have legitimate links that say Mr. bush did not exploit 9/11 for political points? And those links can refute, that it was not Mr. Bush, that said Iraq and Saddam Hussein were directly helping the attackers of 9/11....justifying the reason to attack Iraq?
You got the burdern of evidence to come up with, taniatv.
No trust me joether that truly is a sorry analogy, you have proved that yourself by not pointing me in the direction of the evidence I asked for. Not a bit of it.
Try comparing like for like and please point me in the direction where there is evidence to show that people were outraged or upset by the idea of a gunshop, shooting range or Christian church opening in Oklahoma City.
The Oklahoma bombing was domestic terrorism, 9-11 was International terrorism.
To even come close to your analogy I have to use a fictional scenario, so let's say that the Oklahoma bomber and his co-conspirator came from some radical Theocracy in deepest Europe, that was governed by some extreme Christian despots. These Christian oppressors hated America and openly waged war against America on every and any given soapbox and stage... and I could go on and on.
That would be a like for like situation joether and if that was the situation I don't think you would have any difficulty in pointing me in the direction of any links that displayed outrage if an extreme Christian church was built in the shadow of the Oklahoma bombing.
I haven't got any problem with the muslims wanting to build a mosque. It is the location of the mosque that I have a problem with.
The rest you wrote [Bush?] is way off topic and brings up a whole other can of worms to be honest! Let's first joether tidy up your problem and concentrate on the links where the people of Oklahoma showed outrage and disgust at the building of a gunshop, shooting range or Christian church.
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