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RE: Condemning a large group of people for the actions ... - 8/18/2010 8:26:59 PM   
Kirata


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The majority of them, are quite hateful.

Yeah, lot of that going around.

Ain't it wonderful that you're not like that, that with you it's not always the other guy who's to blame for everything.

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RE: Condemning a large group of people for the actions ... - 8/18/2010 8:29:23 PM   
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The majority of them, are quite hateful.

Yeah, lot of that going around.

Ain't it wonderful that you're not like that, that with you it's not always the other guy who's to blame for everything.

K.


lol, damn you get to the point.
Have you noticed we have an abundance of people around here, that "know every damn thing", anyone that DISAGREES/or has a different point of view is wrong, and no matter how nasty they get, they are the nice guys?

join the crowd or jump off the plank?
hell, I think I might take the plank.


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RE: Condemning a large group of people for the actions ... - 8/18/2010 8:31:57 PM   
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The majority of them, are quite hateful.

Yeah, lot of that going around.

Ain't it wonderful that you're not like that, that with you it's not always the other guy who's to blame for everything.

K.


Pot calling the kettle, black! :)

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RE: Condemning a large group of people for the actions ... - 8/18/2010 8:34:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Considering the anti-Muslim rhetoric that has been coming out of conservative news agencies, Newt Gingrich, and others, that is acceptable.

The fact that conservatives, republicans and members of the religious right do not want to be judged by the actions of a radical fringe, they should be willing to not judge an entire culture on the actions of a fringe group of radicals that have been repeatedly condemned by mainstream Muslim Clerics.



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RE: Condemning a large group of people for the actions ... - 8/18/2010 8:36:50 PM   
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Considering the anti-Muslim rhetoric that has been coming out of conservative news agencies, Newt Gingrich, and others, that is acceptable.



....large group judged by a few....again.

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RE: Condemning a large group of people for the actions ... - 8/18/2010 8:37:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		the KKK was started by and is still full of democrats. a lot of the crazy people listed as rabid republicans were not republicans, more than not, they were apolitical. few christians support killers who attack abortion clinics or their dr.'s.

as to the right wing talk show host, u hear a statement taken out of context and assume its fact. u have obivously never taken the time to listen to them. once again painting with a broad brush and repeating what the left wing media tells u is occuring. today hannity had a radical muslim, a converted (away from islam) muslim lady and a moderate muslim on his show, it was not all one sided as the lib media would have u believe. yes, beck and others have pointed out parts of the islam faith that condems all non muslims, but as beckh has said often he does not believe all muslims feel this way. but u do not hear that that part of his speech.

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RE: Condemning a large group of people for the actions ... - 8/18/2010 8:42:44 PM   
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Considering the anti-Muslim rhetoric that has been coming out of conservative news agencies, Newt Gingrich, and others, that is acceptable.



....large group judged by a few....again.

boi


I dont see many of the big names of the conservative right condemning these statements, there have been many supporting such statements... With the exception of Pat Buchanan who said that Newt Gingrich is a "political opportunist" in reference to his anti Muslim statements and statements Gingrich made about the Community Center at 51 Park, two blocks from ground zero.


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RE: Condemning a large group of people for the actions ... - 8/18/2010 8:44:11 PM   
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RE: Condemning a large group of people for the actions ... - 8/18/2010 8:52:36 PM   
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I find it really funny that the Conservative Right and Republicans as well as a few Democrats are condemning the entire Muslim community for the actions of a small minority of extremists, or the fact that some countries such as Saudi Arabia, Iran and a few of the gulf states have legal systems based on Sharia Law.

It is time for us to remind the conservatives, republicans and religious right of some of the people that they have spawned over the years:

Michael F. Griffin, Paul Jennings Hill, John Salvi, James Kopp, Scott Roeder all guilty of killing abortion doctors or workers.

Shelley Shannon, guilty of attempted murder of an abortion doctor

Matt Goldsby, Jimmy Simmons, Kathy Simmons, Kaye Wiggins, Eric Robert Rudolph, Martin Uphoff, Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe all guilty of either bombing abortion clinics, doctor's offices or attempted arson of same.

Then of course there is Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols.\


Using the logic of the Conservatives, Republicans and Religious Right, we should condemn them for the actions of a few.

Of course the conservatives, republicans and religious right members of this board will claim that these acts are not the same as the acts of a few Muslims.


Happens all the time to every group. Muslims have no stranglehold on the whole being held accountable for the few.

Doubt it? Just read these pages. Hell, just read your own writing. You just castigated 50 some million people by naming a dozen or so.

I swear to god, the idiocy and hypocrisy is fucking astounding. Sometimes,  I think I shit more logic than I read here.


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RE: Condemning a large group of people for the actions ... - 8/18/2010 9:00:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		All I tried to do was prove the point that the conservatives, republicans and members of the religious right really should not be condemning anyone for what a small minority has done.

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RE: Condemning a large group of people for the actions ... - 8/18/2010 9:02:13 PM   
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I find it really funny that the Conservative Right and Republicans as well as a few Democrats are condemning the entire Muslim community for the actions of a small minority of extremists, or the fact that some countries such as Saudi Arabia, Iran and a few of the gulf states have legal systems based on Sharia Law.

It is time for us to remind the conservatives, republicans and religious right of some of the people that they have spawned over the years:

Michael F. Griffin, Paul Jennings Hill, John Salvi, James Kopp, Scott Roeder all guilty of killing abortion doctors or workers.

Shelley Shannon, guilty of attempted murder of an abortion doctor

Matt Goldsby, Jimmy Simmons, Kathy Simmons, Kaye Wiggins, Eric Robert Rudolph, Martin Uphoff, Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe all guilty of either bombing abortion clinics, doctor's offices or attempted arson of same.

Then of course there is Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols.\


Using the logic of the Conservatives, Republicans and Religious Right, we should condemn them for the actions of a few.

Of course the conservatives, republicans and religious right members of this board will claim that these acts are not the same as the acts of a few Muslims.


Happens all the time to every group. Muslims have no stranglehold on the whole being held accountable for the few.

Doubt it? Just read these pages. Hell, just read your own writing. You just castigated 50 some million people by naming a dozen or so.

I swear to god, the idiocy and hypocrisy is fucking astounding. Sometimes,  I think I shit more logic than I read here.



lol


At least I know there are many others that "see" it.


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RE: Condemning a large group of people for the actions ... - 8/18/2010 9:34:00 PM   
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I was merely pointing out that the MAJORITY of the protests against the Muslim citizens of the United States have been part of the conservative, republican and religious right political camp.


If that was what you were trying to point out, then you should have said that instead of implying that the whole group moves as one.

You can list all the hate groups you want. It doesn't change the fact that not all conservatives feel the same way. But keep projecting your bigotry on others. I only makes you look bad.




Yet it is perfectly alright for main stream conservatives like John Boehner and other Republican politicians to paint Muslims with one broad brush? It is alright for these politicians and right wing news media personalities to paint groups, be they Muslim, Latino or others with the same broad "anti whatever" label?
Did I say that? Why is it every time someone points out that you are being just as bigoted, you immediately point your finger at someone else? It isn't right for anyone? Left or right, understand now?

Sorry, but the conservative base has made these and other claims about gays, minorities, religions for quite some time. It is common to hear such claims from Rush, Beck, and other talking heads for the right.
See above comment

I notice you are not saying a word to condemn them, thus, you must support their views. If you dont, say so.
I have already mentioned several times on this board that I don't listen to the idiots. Do try to keep up.




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RE: Condemning a large group of people for the actions ... - 8/18/2010 9:42:58 PM   
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All I tried to do was prove the point that the conservatives, republicans and members of the religious right really should not be condemning anyone for what a small minority has done.


Well, all you proved is you are just as bad as those you are criticizing. I know you won't see this, but that's what happened.


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RE: Condemning a large group of people for the actions ... - 8/19/2010 4:56:54 AM   
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All I tried to do was prove the point that the conservatives, republicans and members of the religious right really should not be condemning anyone for what a small minority has done.


if ur going to prove something, get ur facts straight first! the largest group aginst the "community cultural center" (ITS BEING BUILT IN A BUSINESS DISTRICT, NOT A COMMUMINITY) the largest group aginst it is the people from that area, mostly families of the victims, not all republican!!
democratic sen. reed spoke out aginst it the other day, but that's ok , as the presbo said he has to do that to get elected.
sen. byrd was a member of the KKK, he was a recruiter for the KKK(most of their members r dem.) but as bill clinton said at his funeral, he had to be a member to get elected. HELL, that makes it ok!!

edited to add:
and its ok for u to use a broad brush to condem all the consertives because ur a lib. HELL that makes it ALL alright!

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RE: Condemning a large group of people for the actions ... - 8/19/2010 6:36:43 AM   
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The majority of them, are quite hateful.

Yeah, lot of that going around.

Ain't it wonderful that you're not like that, that with you it's not always the other guy who's to blame for everything.

K.


Pot calling the kettle, black! :)


I don't ever remember Kirata being hateful or trying to blame the other guy. Perhaps you could show us a few example or stfu.


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RE: Condemning a large group of people for the actions ... - 8/19/2010 6:38:30 AM   
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the KKK was started by and is still full of democrats. a lot of the crazy people listed as rabid republicans were not republicans, more than not, they were apolitical. few christians support killers who attack abortion clinics or their dr.'s.

as to the right wing talk show host, u hear a statement taken out of context and assume its fact. u have obivously never taken the time to listen to them. once again painting with a broad brush and repeating what the left wing media tells u is occuring. today hannity had a radical muslim, a converted (away from islam) muslim lady and a moderate muslim on his show, it was not all one sided as the lib media would have u believe. yes, beck and others have pointed out parts of the islam faith that condems all non muslims, but as beckh has said often he does not believe all muslims feel this way. but u do not hear that that part of his speech.

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Sean Hannity is the original pussy. Get rid of the other person on your show cause you can't win an argument? lol.

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RE: Condemning a large group of people for the actions ... - 8/19/2010 6:40:13 AM   
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All I tried to do was prove the point that the conservatives, republicans and members of the religious right really should not be condemning anyone for what a small minority has done.


if ur going to prove something, get ur facts straight first! the largest group aginst the "community cultural center" (ITS BEING BUILT IN A BUSINESS DISTRICT, NOT A COMMUMINITY) the largest group aginst it is the people from that area, mostly families of the victims, not all republican!!
democratic sen. reed spoke out aginst it the other day, but that's ok , as the presbo said he has to do that to get elected.
sen. byrd was a member of the KKK, he was a recruiter for the KKK(most of their members r dem.) but as bill clinton said at his funeral, he had to be a member to get elected. HELL, that makes it ok!!

edited to add:
and its ok for u to use a broad brush to condem all the consertives because ur a lib. HELL that makes it ALL alright!


So what is your proof that most members of the KKK are Democrat?

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RE: Condemning a large group of people for the actions ... - 8/19/2010 6:43:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Dude! Seriously do some research on the group you're speaking out against. The KKK has ALWAYS had a problem with republicans and have traditionally been filled with Democrats, until recently after establishing their own political party.

Enjoy this little bit:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Was_the_democratic_party_associated_with_the_KKK

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ETA: The information provided comes from A Short History of Reconstruction, (Harper & Row Publishers, Inc., 1990) by Dr. Eric Foner.

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RE: Condemning a large group of people for the actions ... - 8/19/2010 6:49:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Dont give a shit either way but the heading to your wiki article is "WAS". Get it ,,,,past tense verb. Just found it funny that someone would actually say they "knew" about the membership of that fucked up bunch. I'd personally rather they'd be all lined up and shot. But that's just me.

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RE: Condemning a large group of people for the actions ... - 8/19/2010 6:54:01 AM   
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Dont give a shit either way but the heading to your wiki article is "WAS". Get it ,,,,past tense verb. Just found it funny that someone would actually say they "knew" about the membership of that fucked up bunch. I'd personally rather they'd be all lined up and shot. But that's just me.


I agree. Doesn't matter which side they are on, they are ignorant.


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