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RE: News Corp (Fox News owners) donate to GOP - 8/20/2010 7:58:55 AM   
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never, they are biased, the only one not biased is Fox Entertainment.  Or the drooling imbicile Rush Limbaugh.   

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RE: News Corp (Fox News owners) donate to GOP - 8/20/2010 8:01:02 AM   
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Predictable.

I bet you got some on your shoe...


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never, they are biased, the only one not biased is Fox Entertainment.  Or the drooling imbicile Rush Limbaugh.   


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RE: News Corp (Fox News owners) donate to GOP - 8/20/2010 8:05:31 AM   
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well, thats cute, your usual stuff, put in a link and hope no one is intelligent enough to investigate it. It does not support your unreasonable assertation of bias in definition or documentation.  You are as dishonest as they come in discourse.

The closest you got was that PBS thought that there was a bias (ACROSS THE BOARD) in the media coverage of the 08 election, with more focus on Obama than McCain.  My personal view is that was because old hipshooter footshot himself alot with his actions, and had extra special help from Palin, and the american press thought that if you can't say ANYTHING good about anyone, dont say anything. 

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RE: News Corp (Fox News owners) donate to GOP - 8/20/2010 8:25:00 AM   
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Out of all the stories that link pointed to heres a random one I clicked on thats comical as hell:


quote:

Stephen Colbert: "Now, um, do you believe that you have a liberal bias?"

Jim Lehrer: "I know I do not have a liberal bias."

Colbert: "You know you have a liberal bias?"

Lehrer: "No. I do not have a liberal bias. I do not have--"

Colbert: "You don't have a liberal bias."

Lehrer: "I don't have a conservative bias either. I don't have any bias. I am bias-free."

Colbert, in his faux conservative tone, continued to press the PBS anchor, leading to Lehrer’s claim that the audience is at fault for perceiving bias:


Colbert: "Oh come on, come on now."

Lehrer: "No, no, no. Bias is what people who hear or read the news bring to the story not what the journalist brings to the reporting."

Colbert: "Uh-huh. But doesn't the journalist have to hear the news before he says it back out to someone else?"

Lehrer: "Yes."

Colbert: "I mean you are a channel– I mean, you’re adding some, you know, Jim


Lehrer flavor to what you, to what you said. There is no way to avoid that."

Lehrer: "Well, but it is a flavor of neutrality."

Colbert: "Oh, that sounds delicious! That– That should be the new ad campaign: ‘Jim Lehrer, the flavor of neutrality.’"

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/node/9304#ixzz0x9ynXFXX


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RE: News Corp (Fox News owners) donate to GOP - 8/20/2010 8:44:34 AM   
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Ron is correct, you know. You'd walk into a toilet stall and note that sure enough, typical bias, more paper rolls are mounted on the left side of the stalls than on the right.

Left/right paradigm. Simplicity for the tired of thinking.

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RE: News Corp (Fox News owners) donate to GOP - 8/20/2010 10:13:29 AM   
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Welcome to NewsBusters, a project of the Media Research Center (MRC), the leader in documenting, exposing and neutralizing liberal media bias.


In August of 2005, with the assistance of Matthew Sheffield of Dialog New Media, the MRC launched the NewsBusters blog to provide immediate exposure of liberal media bias, insightful analysis, constructive criticism and timely corrections to news media reporting.

Taking advantage of the MRC's thorough and ongoing tracking of liberal media bias, including a wealth of documentation and an archive of broadcast and cable news recordings dating back to 1987, NewsBusters plays a leading role in blog media criticism as a clearinghouse for evidence of liberal media bias. It combines this formidable archive and its compilers inside the MRC with the contributions of already-established netizen watchdogs.

If you have general questions please go to our frequently asked questions page
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/about#ixzz0xAQifBGG

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RE: News Corp (Fox News owners) donate to GOP - 8/20/2010 10:17:08 AM   
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What we need are sites to expose media sensationalism.

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RE: News Corp (Fox News owners) donate to GOP - 8/20/2010 10:21:17 AM   
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Thorny I noticed the source and snorted.
about as reliable as prison planet


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RE: News Corp (Fox News owners) donate to GOP - 8/20/2010 10:39:15 AM   
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Check out what constitutes bias in their style guide.  I saw many acts of what constitutes liberal that I've seen with conservative sources.



The main issue I have is the whole "balanced coverage" thing.  In an article about Obama's citizenship there's someone who gives all the proof of his citizenship and the viewpoint, theories, etc. of a "birther".  They are considered equal, even though the birther is incorrect.

Or someone who explains what was behind the rumors of "death panels" and how it's was a mistaken viewpoint, and then Sarah Palin ranting about death panels.

This happens over and over.  Journalists should be doing research, digging out facts, and reporting them.  But that takes time, and doesn't fit the 24-hour news cycle, where everyone has to be the first to jump on a story.  The stories may be long and a bit dry.

Networks jump on sensationalistic stories generated by bloggers (true or not) or stuff by the likes of Breitbart, and when the people are cleared weeks later the correction runs on page 23 or is not even acknowledged by the original broadcasters.  Let alone the folks like Beck, Limbaugh, etc.  I haven't watched Olberman for years (I watched him on a business trip, right when the markets crashed, because the hotel had such a crappy assortment of channels.  We had free WSJ to read and it was fascinating to see the whole house of cards come tumbling down.)

Another thing that really, really pisses me off is folks who use material from think tanks without announcing their party affiliation.  I've seen folks from the AEI or Heritage "fellows" that were nothing more than past writers, literary "bomb throwers" ,etc. treated like researchers.

Online I often see editorials taken as fact.

Anyway, that's my rant for the day.

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RE: News Corp (Fox News owners) donate to GOP - 8/20/2010 10:57:37 AM   
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Newsbusters as a source compares very favorably to the source used for the lead propaganda piece headlining this thread, thinkprogress.org


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Welcome to NewsBusters, a project of the Media Research Center (MRC), the leader in documenting, exposing and neutralizing liberal media bias.


In August of 2005, with the assistance of Matthew Sheffield of Dialog New Media, the MRC launched the NewsBusters blog to provide immediate exposure of liberal media bias, insightful analysis, constructive criticism and timely corrections to news media reporting.

Taking advantage of the MRC's thorough and ongoing tracking of liberal media bias, including a wealth of documentation and an archive of broadcast and cable news recordings dating back to 1987, NewsBusters plays a leading role in blog media criticism as a clearinghouse for evidence of liberal media bias. It combines this formidable archive and its compilers inside the MRC with the contributions of already-established netizen watchdogs.

If you have general questions please go to our frequently asked questions page
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/about#ixzz0xAQifBGG



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RE: News Corp (Fox News owners) donate to GOP - 8/20/2010 11:06:21 AM   
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So, you are contending then, that NewsCorp didn't give 1 million to the Republican Governors, or that because your opinion is that your propaganda source compares favorably with another organization in your own mind that the links that did not in any way give evidence of what you implied they gave evidence of should be taken to mean what you say?

I am confused, how long can you keep up the red herrings?  And wouldn't this contravene your own post regarding what is a strawman that you got wrong in definition in reply to me?  Yanno, the two wrongs don't make a right, misinformation you tried to pass off as strawman? 

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RE: News Corp (Fox News owners) donate to GOP - 8/20/2010 11:08:51 AM   
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If you repeat something often enough, it can become almost like the truth.

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RE: News Corp (Fox News owners) donate to GOP - 8/20/2010 1:10:30 PM   
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Does anyone actually give a fuck what Daschle thinks? Especially after his humiliating defeat in 04, and having to withdraw his name for Secretary of HHS for Obama, due to tax evasion?

I know that if I had partners, and the President not only legislated to destroy big business as much as Obama has, and attacked my network on a constant and continual basis, I donate to the opposite party as well, it's only smart business.

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RE: News Corp (Fox News owners) donate to GOP - 8/20/2010 1:19:55 PM   
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Nope, no more than they give a fuck what SlimyNewtGingrich thinks.

But, the question is whether or not it is legal for a foriegner to give money to US elections.

Because I think even Fox entertainment said he gave a mill to the Repub Guvs.



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RE: News Corp (Fox News owners) donate to GOP - 8/20/2010 2:26:57 PM   
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Nope, no more than they give a fuck what SlimyNewtGingrich thinks.

But, the question is whether or not it is legal for a foriegner to give money to US elections.

Because I think even Fox entertainment said he gave a mill to the Repub Guvs.



psst you know Obama received over 3 million from foreigners, dontcha?

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RE: News Corp (Fox News owners) donate to GOP - 8/20/2010 2:28:35 PM   
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In 3 lump sums?

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RE: News Corp (Fox News owners) donate to GOP - 8/20/2010 2:31:43 PM   
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In 3 lump sums?


Does it matter? 3 mil is 3 mil, regardless if it came from a Soro's type fella, or not.

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RE: News Corp (Fox News owners) donate to GOP - 8/20/2010 2:36:12 PM   
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Yeah it does. Was it 3 million from 3 million individuals?

Nothing is more annoying than making a purposely obtuse post.

Also, even though we no longer needs facts here, I wouldn't mind something to back your figure up.

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RE: News Corp (Fox News owners) donate to GOP - 8/20/2010 3:27:03 PM   
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No, Conservatives dont habitually obsess over media corporations like the left does, even the ones who are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out in left field such as MSNBC, CNN, the New York Times, Time, PBS, and so on.




No kidding?

Then who are the people that have been telling me about "liberal media bias"?

You know, like you just did.

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RE: News Corp (Fox News owners) donate to GOP - 8/20/2010 3:38:24 PM   
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Yeah it does. Was it 3 million from 3 million individuals?

Nothing is more annoying than making a purposely obtuse post.

Also, even though we no longer needs facts here, I wouldn't mind something to back your figure up.


http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2008/10/rnc-to-file-fec-complaint-on-o.html

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/36996

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/06/cbsnews_investigates/main4504955.shtml

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-10-07-obama-money-abroad_N.htm

Link 4 is where I got the 3 million amount.

Again, I ask you if it really matters if the money comes from three foreign donors, or 3 million foreign donors?


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