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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/20/2010 8:27:58 PM   
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Question for all slaves/subs out there. Would you do body modifications to ensure your Master is totally happy?

I have in the past and don't regret it one bit.  Of course, it wasn't done on a whim either.

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/20/2010 9:46:37 PM   
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I don't understand why so many are jumping all over the OP. Body mods such as piercings and tats are so common these days that they hardly bear mentioning.

As for surgery for weight loss or breast augmentation- if you are owned, in a long-term relationship, what's the problem? If You truly have given your power and will over to your owner, and a decision is made, then the decision is made. If you didn't trust his/her judgement, would you be there for the long haul in the first place?

Sometimes I feel that too many people here are playing at power exchange, and don't have the balls to live it.


This. Well said.

And, I'd like to add, I have my ex's race car number tattooed on my leg. It's been his number since around the time I was born and will remain that. He and I have remained friends through the years & I actually got the tattoo while I was owned by someone else.  Not everything that is a symbol of affection for another always has to be a "bad memory". I'll always be cheering him on in every race and I don't even have to be there

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/21/2010 5:36:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Considering that the alternative to piercing is a nail gun or a hammer and a handful of ten-penny's, I would venture to guess that body modification is the lesser of the two evils in her eyes.
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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/21/2010 5:50:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: hejira92

I don't understand why so many are jumping all over the OP. Body mods such as piercings and tats are so common these days that they hardly bear mentioning.

As for surgery for weight loss or breast augmentation- if you are owned, in a long-term relationship, what's the problem? If You truly have given your power and will over to your owner, and a decision is made, then the decision is made. If you didn't trust his/her judgement, would you be there for the long haul in the first place?

Sometimes I feel that too many people here are playing at power exchange, and don't have the balls to live it.



Pretty much pretty lady. ;) I mean I knew when we got together that he had very exacting standards that he wanted me to maintain and if working out or staying healthy to conform to a look he wants, big deal. He is after all the dominant right? I get botox every 3 months and he wants me to do that, so he pays for it, just like he pays for the gym or facials or whatever else he likes, from 8 hours worth of hair extension to acid peels. I realize these are more along the lines of cosmetic procedures than body mods per se, but I also have a large asian dragon on my back because he saw one and thought it was beautiful and asked me to get one. I did without hesitation and the second one also, and soon the third one.

I have no doubt that when the time comes he will let me know that he wants something else done, whether it's cosmetic procedures or hair extensions, and I will happily oblige. He does more for me than anyone in my entire life and it's a non issue as far as I a concerned. I mean I hope he doesn't develop a fondness for facial piercings anytime soon ;) but you get the idea!

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/21/2010 6:15:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		Working out, staying healthy would be admirable asperations.  Gastric bypass with the history of complications and difficulties? - not so much.
As for breast augments. No, no and hell no. Unless he wants to sign a legal contract stipulating that he will in perpetuity pay to have them replaced when needed.  Even if we aren't together.
Yes, those puppies have to be replaced regularly....  and no, insurance won't pay for that either.

If i had a master who wanted me to work out regularly - sure, i could do that. No problem.  The problem comes in with doing things to the body that have long lasting implications.

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/21/2010 6:27:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Perhaps if we could see your tits, we could help him with that decision.

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/21/2010 7:01:44 AM   
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Perhaps if we could see your tits, we could help him with that decision.



lol Jefff. I have nice sweater puppies, that is one benefit of being childless. Of course, if they ever start to head south, sign me up at the boobie doc!! ;)

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/21/2010 7:02:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		"Sweater puppies"..... You are the second person ever I have heard use that.


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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/21/2010 8:58:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: hejira92

I don't understand why so many are jumping all over the OP. Body mods such as piercings and tats are so common these days that they hardly bear mentioning.

As for surgery for weight loss or breast augmentation- if you are owned, in a long-term relationship, what's the problem? If You truly have given your power and will over to your owner, and a decision is made, then the decision is made. If you didn't trust his/her judgement, would you be there for the long haul in the first place?

Sometimes I feel that too many people here are playing at power exchange, and don't have the balls to live it.


I disagree completely. First of all, no one is jumping on the OP. People were asked their opinions and they gave them. This may work for your dynamic and not others. Considering the fact that not everyone lives their lives the same way, there are variances in all relationships, including power exchange ones.

Therefore, the degree upon which someone will agree to do something to their body for another person, unless they truly want to, is predicated upon the type of power exchange we are discussing.

I don't think it has anything to do with the size of his/her balls. I think it takes balls to be true to yourself, and not agreeing to any body mods that someone requested is being true to oneself.

I certainly would not be accusing people of playacting; that smacks of "the one twue way" thing we hear about ad nauseum.

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/21/2010 10:12:58 AM   
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Pffft...I'm not about "equality" in the D/s relationship, per se, but if I'm driving 20 miles a day just to blow him on his lunch break, he suddenly thinks I need his tattoo on my ass? No, thanks.


Driving 20 miles a day to blow someone? He must be worth it!


Pffft....20 miles is child's play.

Nope, no body modification for me. I accept them as they are and expect them to return that sentiment.

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/21/2010 10:22:25 AM   
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As for surgery for weight loss or breast augmentation- if you are owned, in a long-term relationship, what's the problem? If You truly have given your power and will over to your owner, and a decision is made, then the decision is made. If you didn't trust his/her judgement, would you be there for the long haul in the first place?
As obedience is always a choice, when is power ever given, even in power exchange?


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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/21/2010 12:15:18 PM   
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It's not submission if I don't get a kidney.

Fuck that, your standards are too low; if I don't get at least a liver then I'm not a happy fucker.


buggar now you tell me...I had a huge chunk of mine lopped off a few years ago, I could have asked the surgeon to save it for you VC and we could have lived happily ever after

I scar very badly so even piercings are a no go for me.  I would get a tattoo (a symbol rather than someone's name) but again because of my skin type I would ensure that the dominant knows exactly what the risks are for me and would ask him to make an informed decision.  Surgical procedures would also be out due to health reasons I have which mean that I have to avoid all but absolutely necessary operations. I am always up front about things like the above so he would know from the very beginning that they would not be a possibility and thus it might be best for him to find someone who will be able to undergo the things he wants.


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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/21/2010 2:32:21 PM   
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buggar now you tell me...I had a huge chunk of mine lopped off a few years ago, I could have asked the surgeon to save it for you VC and we could have lived happily ever after


Hey, for you I'd be willing to be an unhappy fucker for forever after :P

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/21/2010 2:40:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Seeing as i react very badly to anesthesia, and with out a very specialized kind, can die going under the knife, no body mods for me, as for a tattoo, or piercing, i wouldnt mind as i already have 8 piercings and 5 tattoos, of his name? No go, but a symbol or a design we both agreed on that meant more then that person sure.

I dont think saying no to gastric bypass, or a boob job means im any less submissive or giving him any less in the relationship, since both procedures could likely kill me just having them done not even counting the long term ramifications, it would be very stupid for the man to make such requests, and i dont submit to stupid people.

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/21/2010 4:13:38 PM   
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buggar now you tell me...I had a huge chunk of mine lopped off a few years ago, I could have asked the surgeon to save it for you VC and we could have lived happily ever after


Hey, for you I'd be willing to be an unhappy fucker for forever after :P


VC, as much as I dislike disagreeing with you, I have to inform you that you might not be able to call yourself a 'fucker' (in my humble opinion) until we have the results of the following poll.

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/21/2010 7:49:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've taken some time to seriously think about this. If I were in a LTR, more than a few months and more in the line of a few years, I'd consider major surgery and permanent markings. AFTER the dominant had proved that he was here to stay. Willy-nilly surgery and permanent markings for someone I barely know? I don't think so.

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/22/2010 5:04:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		as someone has said, if the relationship means alot to you then to mark that memory on youre body with a tat isnt such a huge stretch - even if it went tits up it would still be a memory.

i was once told id be branded and i had to seriously beg for that not to happen - in the end i just dont believe in that stuff.  you brand livestock in case it wonders off, if i wonder off im wondering off for good reason.

i was prepared to be pierced on my nips and labia, i looked into it and it didnt sound too painful, but nip peircings can end up taking an age to settle apparently, or so i was told by the piercer.  my main thing was that at the time i was 41 and i just thought maybe that ship had sailed for me a bit - shrugs)

in theory i dont see the problemo - but surgery would have to be concensual.  in the end, whatever anyone says it is youre body, youre living in it and no one has the right to force radical changes on you that you dont want.

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/22/2010 5:24:38 AM   
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I don't understand why so many are jumping all over the OP. Body mods such as piercings and tats are so common these days that they hardly bear mentioning.

I saw no one 'jumping all over' the OP. I saw people answering his question. Some said yes, some said yes to some things and no to others, and some said no. Unsurprising when the questions were 'would you?' and 'how far would you go?'

As for tats and piercings, the fact that they are more common now than in the past doesn't mean that they are universally accepted. Such things can still affect one's career, depending on their chosen field and the placement of said tat or piercing. Try interviewing at a law firm with 15 holes in your face, getting a job in a religious school with a tat that says 'His Slut" on the back of your hand, or showing up for work at a bank wearing 10g barbells through your nipples (better bring the duct tape)
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As for surgery for weight loss or breast augmentation- if you are owned, in a long-term relationship, what's the problem?
Speaking only for myself, there are a couple of problems. One is that I scar easily and excessively, even when the surgery is done by a plastic surgeon. The other is that I react very badly to the antagonists used to counter general anesthetics. I did not choose these things, they are merely part of me as a person.
I know that plastic surgery is regarded by many as 'no big deal' these days... but for some of us, any surgery is quite a big deal. This is something to be discussed before a relationship and dynamic are entered into, IMO.
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If You truly have given your power and will over to your owner, and a decision is made, then the decision is made. If you didn't trust his/her judgement, would you be there for the long haul in the first place?

Sometimes I feel that too many people here are playing at power exchange, and don't have the balls to live it.

This surprised me, coming from you. First off, the question was asked of both subs and slaves, inviting a variety of responses from people in various dynamics. The above smacks unpleasantly of 'one twue way' to me, suggesting that power exchange is either 'no limits' TPE or nothing. That is not the case. There are nearly as many dynamics out there as there are people living WIIWD, as there is no one way that is better than another. There is only what works for a given couple, partnership, or household.

As for 'balls', mine are right where they should be. I have hard limits, and the 'balls' to not allow something that damages me as a person for the sake of a relationship. That took a lot of work on my part, and I have no intention of giving it up now. If that means that I am 'playing' at power exchange, by all means sign me up for the fakes list!

I find it hilarious that on the one hand, s-types are told that they are always ultimately responsible for their own well-being; while on the other hand, they are told that not giving themselves totally to their Dom in all ways means that they are 'playing' at being submissive. No wonder so many new folks are confused!





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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/22/2010 6:53:25 AM   
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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/22/2010 7:00:57 AM   
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As for surgery for weight loss or breast augmentation- if you are owned, in a long-term relationship, what's the problem?


Yeah, lots of problems from my pov. There is no way breast augmentation is 'no problem' Yikes. Surgery, weird substances in my body? Nope, huge problem, not going to happen. If my breasts are too small or whatever, move on, find a big breasted woman, there are plenty around. I would rather be alone than with someone who thinks surgery is no big deal because I am in a ltr. Yikes, no freaking way.

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