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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/22/2010 7:08:02 AM   
sweetbiggal


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Nope.  I would love to belong to someone who wanted me to be healthy though. I'd love for him to support me in my weight loss journey.  

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/23/2010 9:41:02 AM   
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Suurgery is out. I have been in the hospital for 2 surgerys (medical not cosmedic)) Tha was 2 times to many. I am lucky Master likes my body just the way it is. He is suppporting me losing weight because he knows that is what I want. He would be happy either way if i lose weight or not. He chose me so he must have liked what he saw, so why try to change me?

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/23/2010 10:29:00 AM   
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If he wasn't happy with me as I am, then he wouldn't be my dominant. I wouldn't have agreed to submit to someone who didn't think I was fabulous as is. Just as I wouldn't have agreed to submit to someone who I didn't believe was fabulous as is.

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/23/2010 1:20:02 PM   
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Body modification? No, no, no, and absolutely not. Zero. Nada. No.

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/23/2010 3:24:46 PM   
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How far would you go for him/her?


To the second sphincter.

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/23/2010 4:28:16 PM   
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How far would you go for him/her?
Carol would go to a 5.75 for me... perhaps a 6 on a good day. I hear tell of true slaves that would go all the way to 7.

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/25/2010 7:13:31 AM   
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If You truly have given your power and will over to your owner, and a decision is made, then the decision is made. If you didn't trust his/her judgement, would you be there for the long haul in the first place?


Sometimes I feel that too many people here are playing at power exchange, and don't have the balls to live it.

This surprised me, coming from you. First off, the question was asked of both subs and slaves, inviting a variety of responses from people in various dynamics. The above smacks unpleasantly of 'one twue way' to me, suggesting that power exchange is either 'no limits' TPE or nothing. That is not the case. There are nearly as many dynamics out there as there are people living WIIWD, as there is no one way that is better than another. There is only what works for a given couple, partnership, or household.



It surprised me, too. 

We have all walked whatever roads our lives have taken us, and we're affected by them.  As someone who was in a long term relationship (if one considers several years long term) and had a tattoo of his creation inked on me, and who was later dropped by said owner, I have huge reservations about ever doing that again.  This has nothing to do with balls or playing vs. "truly" giving my power over.  Sometimes things just don't feel right for people - maybe it's a tattoo, maybe it's loading the fucking dishwasher - sometimes people have had trauma that they are still working through. (I mention dishwasher because it took me about 5 years to recover from the dishwasher trauma that occurred in my marriage)

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I find it hilarious that on the one hand, s-types are told that they are always ultimately responsible for their own well-being; while on the other hand, they are told that not giving themselves totally to their Dom in all ways means that they are 'playing' at being submissive. No wonder so many new folks are confused!



I don't find it hilarious, but I do find it disappointing.

As for the OP's question, I'm not in the kind of relationship where such decisions are made at whim without discussion as to how it might affect me - physically, mentally and emotionally.  My well being is more important to him than what he might want of my body.

Weight Loss?  I began a weight loss program before we met, and have successfully continued.  Yes, he wanted the weight to come off, too, but trusted that I had a healthy handle on it, so his only input has been to encourage me along the way.   I didn't need to be ordered to lose weight, and he didn't put me on a specific diet.  I think the problem with weight loss orders is that many dominants do not know/understand a healthy diet to begin with, so their instructions are often unsuccessful, leaving the submissive/slave to feel like a failure.  My last owner felt that calling me a fat pig and having me root around the floor and snort for him would humiliate me enough to lose weight.  I gained 30 pounds while with him.  I'd call his methods counter-productive. 

Surgery?  It would be talked about.  I think the question in the OP can really only be answered with this.  I doubt anyone who has gone through modification woke up one morning to their masters saying "You know, I think I want you to have breast augmentation" and the slave simply saying "Absolutely, Master!".  As for me, I've talked about having mine reduced when I'm done losing weight, and he says "We'll talk about it when the time comes." 

Tattoos?  He doesn't like tattoos, but after my last experience, he is sensitive to this subject.  We spoke of having mine removed but it is very costly and painful.  Just last weekend we spoke of having it converted to something else, and that's what he agreed on.  So now - together - we will choose something fitting for me. 

But that's the thing with us - we talk about things and he considers my input.  We are in this together.  While he makes the ultimate decision, I am part of the process.  So I can't honestly say "No I'd never do that" because maybe after talking things through, I'd feel differently.  Then again, maybe after talking things through he'd feel differently.  But we don't know until we talk.

So after all that, my short answer would be "It depends." 


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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/25/2010 7:44:19 AM   
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I thought of something else here. I think the key to proceeding with any modification (body, mind, whatever) is to do so responsibly.  I think sometimes I see owners saying they want to make XYZ permanent changes to their slaves and I sometimes wonder if they took all "issues" into account with it.  Because otherwise, maybe the same could be said for them, re: playing games and not taking the well being of their property seriously.  I'm not saying this about anyone here, mind you, but if the argument is going to be made that a slave is just playing games because he/she doesn't feel able to do XYZ, then we have to balance that argument out (I do, anyway) and say maybe the owner isn't being responsible in requiring it.  The brush can be swept both directions.

I know my owner would like to change my hair color, for example.  Yet he knows the idea of this kinda freaks me out.  So rather than saying "You shall do it, slave - now!" he says "Let's just sit on it for awhile...and maybe we can get a wig or two to experiment and play with, and we can photoshop some pictures and see how you feel about it."  Etc.  So while he wants it, he's taking my concerns into consideration, and stepping me toward becoming more comfortable with the idea.  While at first my initial thought was "OMG please no!", now it's "Hmm....maybe it'll be ok, and I know he'll love it, so why not try it?" and so it goes.  It's a process.  And stepping slowly toward the difficult is, in my opinion, much better than pushing someone off a cliff.

I just hate seeing people who would have obvious and legitimate concerns about something being labeled "player" when it's likely something much different than that.


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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/25/2010 1:56:01 PM   
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I just hate seeing people who would have obvious and legitimate concerns about something being labeled "player" when it's likely something much different than that.
Well, just "yes" to everything in this post. But especially to this part.

In fact, this was the nature of my response. Without context, how "far" someone goes is meaningless and the only context that matters is the individual relationship and participants. Honestly, Carol doesn't much care about her hair color so I could say "OH yeah, she'll let me dye her hair" and it wouldn't mean anything. On the other hand, someone who'd been traumatized in a hair salon at some earlier point in their life might find this to be extremely "far".

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/25/2010 3:59:34 PM   
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Question for all slaves/subs out there. Would you do body modifications to ensure your Master is totally happy?

Breast implants, gastric by pass surgery, tattoos, nipple rings, cock rings?

How far would you go for him/her?

Anything he required.
I knew going into this relationship that I was giving up all control of myself.
Somedays he exerts his power in many ways. Somedays I have freedom of certain choices.
It's always up to him and that works for me.

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/25/2010 5:37:38 PM   
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It would all depend upon one thing for me; whether or not *I* wanted the particular "modification" too.

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/25/2010 7:56:13 PM   
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I'm abit of a purist, don't really like body modifications. I suppose I could be convinced for some of the more innocent ones, but I wouldn't ask for them.


The real question is how do you convince someone to not get body modifications?

"It's not a really good idea to be tattooing my name on... You realize you're going to leave me when I get obsessed with stuffed animals in another two years, right?"
"Do you really need DD cups on your 100 pound frame now, sweetheart? I think that much silicone could be a electromagnetic hazard. You'd never want to hurt me, right?"

It happens, I tell you! (BELIEVE ME.)

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/25/2010 8:13:56 PM   
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I was a tad overweight with my second domme so she actually took that into consideration and trusted me to eat what she told me to eat, ended up losing about 15lbs which was great. As far as piercings or anything of that sort it would have to be a domme i'm collared to in order to consider such a thing.

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/26/2010 1:42:27 AM   
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In a 24/7 TPE situation I would consider getting modifications. I wouldn’t get just anything, after all if we part ways I want something I can live with. I had a guy tell me that he wanted his slave to have a PA. I don’t want a PA but it’s a mod I could live with and we negotiated a deal where I wouldn’t have to get any Mods until I had been with him for a year and decided to stay past then.

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/26/2010 3:04:24 PM   
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I'd consider a tasteful and dfiscreet tattoo only as an ownership claim, possibly piercings. Don't even think about mentioning rearranging my blubber- nilla man likes girls with a little meat on their bones, and there's just more of us curvalicious subs to use

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/26/2010 10:07:06 PM   
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To be honest, until I read this thread, I never would have considered weight loss or dying your hair to be under the body modification label.

Ink, piercings, implants (I am not talking about breast implants either, rather things such as horns and ridges places under the skin) are what I expected.

I am ivery ntrested in what others see as modifications and what they are willing to do or not do.

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/27/2010 5:35:20 AM   
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_modification

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RE: How far would you go to ensure your Master is Happy... - 8/27/2010 9:09:48 PM   
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great link ty

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