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RE: Saudi judge considers 'paralysis punishment'... - 8/20/2010 9:05:58 AM

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I dunno , I would be quite happy to chop off the hands of repeat convicted rapists, murderers and child molesterz

The hands?

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RE: Saudi judge considers 'paralysis punishment'... - 8/20/2010 12:20:06 PM

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Greetings Panda....

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What??? You can't possibly be serious. These ignorant savages are to be commended for mutilating him with a clean knife instead of a dirty axe? Please tell me that was a joke that just went over my head.

Sometimes advancement is better made in small steps rather than wait until you can get all of what you want. But yes, technically, sine the mutilation will occur anyway, it is better to use a clean knife. That prevents secondary, unintended consequences. In this case, infections. This is especially true since those complications are not considered part of the punishment.

Hello. Malkinius.

True, but better still that the mutilation not occur at all. I'm sorry, but to me, the original argument was the equivalent of praising Josef Mengele for using a scalpel instead of a steak knife to castrate Jewish children. I don't see it as a small step forward at all. Barbarism is barbarism, no matter how you dress it up.

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RE: Saudi judge considers 'paralysis punishment'... - 8/20/2010 12:47:34 PM

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What ever happened to the idea of restitution? How can SA consider rehabilitating Muslim fanatics (whose Madrassas are financed by SA) by coddling and then think maiming someone in the name of the law is acceptable?

The argument that a clean knife is better than a dirty knife for the job reminds me of the movie Apocolypse Now. The scene where Brando is describing his "epiphany" looking at a pile of (innoculated) children's arms as making perfect sense, "like a diamond bullet in my brain".

Insanity, sheer frickin lunacy.

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RE: Saudi judge considers 'paralysis punishment'... - 8/20/2010 4:41:49 PM

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What ever happened to the idea of restitution? How can SA consider rehabilitating Muslim fanatics (whose Madrassas are financed by SA) by coddling and then think maiming someone in the name of the law is acceptable?

The argument that a clean knife is better than a dirty knife for the job reminds me of the movie Apocolypse Now. The scene where Brando is describing his "epiphany" looking at a pile of (innoculated) children's arms as making perfect sense, "like a diamond bullet in my brain".

Insanity, sheer frickin lunacy.

Actually, (Im not condoning this ok) restitution is an option if the victim agrees. In this case, the victim didnt agree to "blood money".

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RE: Saudi judge considers 'paralysis punishment'... - 8/21/2010 6:07:24 AM

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I don't understand how anyone considered a thinking, reasonable person would think that this is an option.

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RE: Saudi judge considers 'paralysis punishment'... - 8/21/2010 7:01:42 AM

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I don't understand how anyone considered a thinking, reasonable person would think that this is an option.

I am sure glad to live where I do.

The state having too much power- is not a good thing.

We all have seen fancy lawyers- and out of control prosecutors manipulate a case into the false truth. It happens alot.

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RE: Saudi judge considers 'paralysis punishment'... - 8/22/2010 6:20:24 PM

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The trouble is with Saudi Arabia, is that it has what the world wants, namely oil and as long as it has this commodity that everyone wants at the right price, places like Saudi Arabia will continue to basically do what the fuck it likes, as no country is going to piss them off unless they are prepared to handle deep unrest within their own country through severely rising costs of everything and with that unavailability of things taken for granted. The very reason why some countries invade oil bearing countries on the pretext of human rights or any other politically friendly bullshit, accessing oil via conquest is a much cheaper option politically than the aggro that will come from home when things start failing due to lack of oil.

If Saudi Arabia had no oil, what would the rest of the world do about what reports come out of there, would the world and it's leading countries invade, or just plain ignore them ? My thoughts are, where there is nothing in a monetary sense to be gained, no one will invest money and lives in attempting to change a country's judicial system.

So, we can all be appalled about what we hear, but will it change, perhaps not, not at least until the people there change their views, which could be seen as already happening by this OP, the request to medics instead of a butcher to do the job as is required by their laws.

Hands and other appendages being lopped off for crimes committed, if the law requires it and it must be done, then better medics be relied on than some blood thirsty nut case with a ragged edged sword.

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RE: Saudi judge considers 'paralysis punishment'... - 8/22/2010 6:33:15 PM

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In addition to paralysis I would also punish him by making him liable for all of the paralyzed man he injureds expenses.

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RE: Saudi judge considers 'paralysis punishment'... - 8/22/2010 6:45:23 PM

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Maybe that is impractical, a like for like living existence should be enough.

Failing that, failing a sentence of paralysis for the offender, a life of servitude to the victim, be it a slave that waits hand and foot, or a slave that works to pay for his victim first before anything for themselves.

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